Over half of the country supports Trump. You can't expect all Trump supporters to be exactly the same. For the most part, we're supportive and come from all different walks of life. A LARGE number of people on this forum are former Democrats and even former Sandinistas. That being said, like all communities, there is a small percentage of lower common demonimators with anger issues who get their jollies being aggressive assholes online.
I understand. But it's important to not let anger cloud your judgment. That's one of the main thing in my opinion that separates liberals from conservatives.
If you're looking for support, that's exactly what you'll find here. If you're looking for a fight, that's exactly what you'll find here. It's up to you.
I think your best bet would be facebook groups. There are a lot of conservative fb groups and their discussions tend to be more serious because real people profiles.
This is the last bastion of the censored. This is the high energy Trump rally.
I can't really recommend another site that will feather it's blows for you, if there is one it's probably been censored and neutered in some way.
You should appreciate the honesty, even if it's not something you want to hear. Because we've been fucked with, and deplatformed. Many of us have a chip on our shoulder because of it.
Lurk, have a laugh. You haven't been deported yet.
well if you are being called a cuck that much you should probably do some self reflection on your ideas.
Asking if you belong here or will fit in is kind of a cuck thing to do also. Pick up your balls and just post or let your wife's boyfriend post for you.
Considering I've seen T_D and now T_D.WIN members friendly to anyone no matter their political view, or view of Potus, as long as they were reasonable and acted kindly, I'd say yes.
Speak your mind here. Pretty diverse thought on the range of subjects. If some one is trolling you they might be a shill report it to the god mods and let them handle it. Have fun!
Learn by reading and sharing. Second, grow a thick skin. You're too soft if the way we communicate hurts your feelings. It's the truth and you need to accept it to grow.
You're just new and it's growing pains. Stick around and you'll learn to adapt and ignore what's a waste if your time. A lot of us don't agree on everything. Homosexual marriage is a big one. Religion is another. We all support President Trump.
If you take away another's rights, (through violence, rape, kidnapping, etc. Basically any felony) you forfeit your own rights as well.
This has been the common law of the land for centuries. Be glad that these days you'll usually be out of prison on parole pretty fast, back in the day they used to just kill the guilty.
Gotta say I disagree with the guy above, the problem wasn't that you were dragging Kyle, it was that your argument comes across as so... pathetic?
What if he was 14! isn't an argument.
Saying he should have just stayed home, isn't an argument.
Why should he have stayed home? Is that how we should all live now whilst these terrorists get free roam of the streets, burning, raping, killing and looting and we can't even show up with force just to at least intimidate them?
It seems like the point of your post was to ask, "Can someone convince me why it was reasonable for Kyle to show up to this dangerous protest with a gun when he could have just stayed at home".
How exactly would you like the people here to react to this situation now that it's happened? Regardless of all of the legal specifics and the age and reason for Kyle being there. We just witnessed some guy defend himself effortlessly against a horde of violent commies, the video is incredible, we've all been hoping that someone would finally come out on top when these commies attack and they finally did, so how exactly should the meme makers and commie haters here respond?
Because I know how they'd respond if Kyle was beaten to death or killed.
Alright I had some sympathy towards you at the start, I figured you just didn't understand how to properly make your argument as your first post was just a big wall of text that didn't really make any solid points, so I gave you the benefit of the doubt and tried to engage with you here.
Then you dismiss my argument, provide nothing constructive to discuss, tell me I'm not offering anything new or insightful and sound like you're crying.
I understand now why they called you a cuck.
You argue like a girl, because you are one, I asked multiple questions that you could have answered but I bet you stopped reading when I called your argument pathetic because you got triggered instead of reflecting on your own behaviour.
So what if militias start at 17? Just because you learned that new piece of information you no longer hold the beliefs that you previously held? You hold too much value on law and systems.
Your points are all based on radical assumptions, like how celebrating Kyle somehow encourages incompetent kids to go out and do the same?
Don't come crying on here asking why nobody will engage in a discussion with you and then when someone tries, you shrivel up and say "look dude we're not gonna agree". Well then what the fuck was the point in your post? I was looking to find middle ground with you and help you understand where the previous backlash might have come from.
Don’t take it personal. I’m a huge Trump supporter, been with him since he came down the escalator, but still butt heads with people on here sometimes.
We all come from very different walks of life. That’s the amazing thing about this movement - it’s comprised of a much more diverse and nuanced group of people than the mainstream media would let you think. We’re all going to have different opinions here and there. Unlike the left, we actually do value diversity of thought, but we are all patriots who share one thing in common - we love America and support Trump.
I read your posting history. You are taking a minority opinion on the Kyle topic (he shouldn’t be there in the first place). No issues with that. But you shouldn’t be surprised when minority opinions draw down-votes. Also, you engage with everybody who disagrees with you. Again, don’t be surprised when you encounter resistance. Do you really expect people to say: Thank you minaturepotato for enlightening me. Now that I see my mistake, I fully agree with you. That’s not how any community on the internet works.
Sometimes it is necessary agreeing to disagree.
I BTW see your point. If Kyle would be my son, I would do everything possible to stop him from going near Kenosha! He seems to be a very good kid. I’m glad he survived. I have no sympathy for the people he shot, but if he would be my boy, he wouldn’t be out there confronting this crazy, hateful and murderous mob.
This is a winning idea. If you can't take us and the shelling we engage in with each other, you'll be hard pressed to survive when trying to counter all the commie bullshit in the real world. Thick skin is a result of being here long enough.
I would disagree that this isn’t the place for minority opinions, it’s just that because of the amount of shills this site attracts, people are going to be quick to downvote anything that trips their shill radar - which is what usually happens to minority opinions.
I read your Kyle post. While, overall, I agree he was 17 and probably should have been at home. However, he wasn’t. In terms of the memes, I think you’re missing something. A lot of people will self identify with what he did. A lot of people would do the same thing (protect their homes and businesses) in that situation, if this happened in their town. And like Trump there can be a lot of hyperbole in the memes. Yes, it appears he crossed state lines. However, we don’t know the circumstances surrounding that. He doesn’t live far from Kenosha. He could have family there. We just don’t know. And honestly, it’s been building towards this outcome for months. If it wasn’t this kid, in this town it would have been someone else, somewhere else. This was always going to be the inevitable outcome.
I've had a quick browse of your history to understand why you might be called a cuck and the first obvious example I found was you making a post to question why people are calling Kyle a hero, you played a lot of "whataboutism".
"So if it's "legal" for a 17 year old, then what about a 16yo, 15yo, 14yo."
Kyle was 17. It is legal (As far as I know, feel free to correct me) for a 17 year old to carry the rifle that he had, and to cross a state border with it (I think you and others are putting some serious significance behind the idea of crossing a "state border" when you shouldn't, he lived very close to the border and it's a free country, this area was still part of his community).
The question you asked isn't leading anywhere, it's not looking for answers and it's not based on the reality of the situation, I think the reaction here would be significantly different if Kyle was 14 years old, we would all be asking where his parents are.
Your other issue was with the fact that he was being celebrated as a hero.
First you've just gotta get over the age thing, yes he is young and there's some questions to be had about why he was there, but if you were to ignore his age and imagine he was 25, would you still have a problem with him being called a hero?
The guy was expressing his right to peaceably assemble and bear arms, you seem to care about the law so much so here's your lawful response, Kyle did everything legally, he's legally allowed to show up and form a counter-protest or join their protest.
Now, as for him being a hero.
He just displayed an incredible ability to protect himself and stay composed in one of the most stressful situations that anyone could be in, he was being attacked from all angles by pedo's, wife and child beaters and a felon with a gun and he perfectly handled every single attack with the least amount of force necessary and without harming a single innocent person.
In my books, that's a hero. The alternative was death. They would have 100% killed him if he surrendered to them or failed to defend himself. We've seen the evidence of that and I bet he has too.
As for the name calling, often the names are meant as a general description, if I call you a cuck it's because I think you're acting soft and pathetic and need to man up, or that you're acting like a leftist, thinking emotionally instead of logically.
This place is basically supposed to be a 24/7 Trump rally. We are free to disagree with each other on most things, we've just got to be ready for some blowback every once in a while.
I got downvoted for calling Trump's pardon of Susan B. Anthony "Gay" (that was the entirety of the comment).
You don't need to be a bootlicker by any means. Stick around and get a feel for it, and if it's not your cup of tea, no hard feelings.
Even with Anaconda, a user who gets downvoted A LOT, most people don't harass him (no idea what his DMs are like). Like people might not have liked your comment, but they probably won't follow you around on every thread, and say "your opinion isn't valid because you don't think Kyle is the second coming of George Washington!!!"
So basically what others have said, I have better luck on here than on FB with friends and family.
Look for the most downvoted comments on the big Kyle threads, and it will probably be Anaconda. Like you probably got, some call him a shill, but I don't think so, I think he's just an opinionated dude who has many views that aren't in the majority here, and I like his posts and am glad he is here, even though I often disagree.
Similarly, I probably mostly disagree with you on Kyle (I just see comments here, didn't look in your history), but I like hearing other opinions, don't downvote just because I disagree, and think there are many like me.
Supporting Kyle is a make or break. Some things we can all disagree on. I cannot fathom how you can not support Kyle and spread the "cross state lines/coummunity he's not apart of" bullshit when the kid lived 15 minutes away from the place.
If you can't support Kyle here, I question if you have ANY fundamental conservative ideals.
I did read your post, and I quoted it. I think its stupid and irrelevant and it sounds like you were raised either in a big city or in an incredibly cushy environment.
My grandfather went to Normandy and he was barely 19. I'm sure he killed a lot of people there thought he never really talked about it.
Its not about encouraging our kids to go out into the fray. But he is a hero, and not like the 100s of trash we see out there being destructive. So why disparage him?
Don't bother engaging with this girl, she's so soft and can't handle the slightest bit of criticism, it's pathetic.
She gets offended that you call her post stupid and irrelevant, because she thinks you're calling her stupid and irrelevant. She literally doesn't know how to argue, she thinks arguing is when you tell her she's right and kiss her ass.
Before you get too offended, you should try being from California on this forum, lol.
Just roll with it and try not to take it too personally. If somebody really lights you up then there’s a block link under their post so you don’t have to see any future posts from them if you don’t want to.
We really are accommodating, it just sounds like you got off on the wrong foot.
"Will probably be downvoted to hell but I can't wrap my head around making a hero of a kid who should have just stayed home last night. A 17 year old probably still in HS, takes a gun, crosses state lines to be some sort of vigilante for a community he is not even a part of."
Trump is about truth and winning. This post above by you provides misinformation ("not his community") and a wrong leftist narrative. It is also a losing mindset. Of course a 17 year old shouldn't have to protect life and property. No one thinks that. But when SHTF and the Dem politicians stood back and the community burned, Kyle rose to the occasion. He brought also a med kit and protected others. When commie criminals attacked him he faced death. He beat the odds without any collateral damage.
That's a hero.
In the future do your own research. Go on Duckduckgo and check where Kyle lives and how far away the incident happened.
And post less. More input, less output. You will be voting for the first time in 2020. Be humble. Many here fought the commies for a long time and assuming you know more than them makes you look foolish in hindsight.
You are on the right path but need more knowledge.
In a way- yes, but it helps to have a thick skin. Those who comment don't know you so as odd as it seems, they aren't reacting to you. They are only reacting to what you commented or posted. With that in mind, there's no need to take their comments personally. I've shit the bed pretty hard with some of my comments and posts. If it looks like I'll be downvoted into oblivion, I usually just delete the comment, figure out what I really meant to say, and then repost it in a more appealing way (or abandon it).
r/the_donald and now, thedonald.win in my eyes represent a stylized hyper-reaction. Ideally, we would want a place where even critical ideas can be debated, but the same psy-ops that was utilized against ISIS was somehow authorized to be used against us. That is why anyone who is suspected of not being a Trump supporter is immediately deported here, and it is also why anything borderline tends to draw hyper-sensitive reactions. The vast majority of the people on this site are cool and worth interacting with. But we seriously have a ton of psy-ops being directed at us from our own government and also from no shortage of foreign governments. The rules of this site keep us safe from most of their efforts to manipulate us. But the price we pay for that is that we are trapped in an echo chamber. It is by far the most fun echo chamber online though.
I just wrote out some gay paragraph to try to engage your thought process and have a productive conversation like you claim to want, and your response was "Look dude, we just don't agree", as if I was trying to push my beliefs onto you.
Get a grip and stop expecting everyone here to treat you with kid gloves. You asked a dumb question and people took their time to tell you why it was dumb, you didn't try to engage in conversation, you got upset that someone would disagree with you and have the cheek to call you a cuck!! Then you made another post to cry about it and ask if you belong here.
You don't get to control the discussion on your posts. You asked a question relating to your previous posts, so don't be surprised when people go back and check your old posts to figure out what your problem is.
You argue like such a child, get a grip and go watch some Change My Mind or something and try not to be like the pathetic lefties that throw a tantrum when Crowder provides facts.
Let me help you. You are on a political website... one that supports Donald Trump unequivocally.
To expect our support of your opposition opinions, just to get a rise and make us convince you of our shared view of the world right now is completely insincere and will bring out the worst responses.
You sound like an angry/suffering person, that is punching down. Who hurt you?
The fact that you cannot even capitalize letters... speaks volumes.
Your post sounds fake and gay. I’m sure reddit has a safe place for you where you can be protected from people who think differently than you and will ensure no one challenges your beliefs or calls you names. People like you who can’t handle people using words as they see fit have a political party, they are out burning your streets right now, feel free to join them.
I think it’s fine to have an unpopular opinion and even state it, but don’t expect to be embraced.
And FWIW, I think Kyle should have stayed home- although he clearly was able to handle himself extraordinarily well. And it is a good instinct to want to protect good things from those who are destroying them - and the same instinct that we admire in our WWII heroes.
There’s probably a reason young men are the bulk of our military - and why their moms and sisters have trouble letting them go.
Be generous with disclaimers. Personally I despise weasel words and language but remember, it's very easy to be misunderstood online. Once you are misunderstood, it's very hard to correct the narrative.
For example: I myself personally am not against H1B Visas even though I know the majority of people on this website are. My belief comes from working in the tech industry and knowing that Indians are incredibly based and productive members of society. If there's going to be immigration at all, I'm okay with it being groups like that. "Dey took arr jobs" is a problem yes, but so is abusing internships or firing people with years on the job to hire a replacement fresh out of college and pay them half as much. Business is gonna business.
But whenever I post in threads about H1B or immigration, I'm very careful to qualify my position, or use a disclaimer like "Controversial take" or "I know it's unpopular but" at the start of my post.
Also consider a lot of people will check your post history before they ass-blast you. If you never post on the easy, popular threads where it's an upvote train and you only ever post to voice concerns or complaints then your post history is going to make people think you are a troll.
It's called "black-pilling" where you try to spawn a wave of negativity under the guise of highlighting a "legitimate" issue. There are always going to be disagreements, and Trump will do or not do things that certain segments of his supporters may or may not agree with, but we try not to focus on those and instead focus on the things that have near universal support.
Hell, there's plenty of atheistic Trump supporters. But they are smart enough to just scroll past the posts and stickies of Bible verses without comment and let the rest of us enjoy our faith. (And Atheist Pedes, I do appreciate you for it and "think positive thoughts" for you anyway if you won't accept prayers.)
So, if you have something that's clearly an opinion, make sure that is clear and be careful to leave room for other people to have a differing opinion without having to feel the need to choose a side. To use an example posted below, we can all agree that it sucks that it's come to the point that the only person willing to stand up for what's right is a 17-year-old kid with his whole life and future ahead of him. Now he's being crucified on social media and this will follow him forever no matter where he goes or what he does. That's brutal. But for some, that makes him a hero because he did what seemingly no grown ups in the room were willing to do.
So rather than try to debate the merits of whether or not Kyle should have been there, just join the universal chorus of condemnation for the events and failed elected officials that let it escalate to that point.
I'm curious what your views are that got you called these names.
You are calling yourself a conservative. That would put you in the meary party of the curve here.
Over half of the country supports Trump. You can't expect all Trump supporters to be exactly the same. For the most part, we're supportive and come from all different walks of life. A LARGE number of people on this forum are former Democrats and even former Sandinistas. That being said, like all communities, there is a small percentage of lower common demonimators with anger issues who get their jollies being aggressive assholes online.
Sometimes it’s fun to respond. 😀
I understand. But it's important to not let anger cloud your judgment. That's one of the main thing in my opinion that separates liberals from conservatives.
If you're looking for support, that's exactly what you'll find here. If you're looking for a fight, that's exactly what you'll find here. It's up to you.
Most insult are in good nature unless you are really being a cuck.
I got called an NPC on Twitter recently. Some people are just quick to throw insults. Shrug and move on.
I think your best bet would be facebook groups. There are a lot of conservative fb groups and their discussions tend to be more serious because real people profiles.
You can always make a fake profile just for that reason. Im in WA so most of my conservative peers have 2 accounts. We're really oppressed here lol.
This is the last bastion of the censored. This is the high energy Trump rally.
I can't really recommend another site that will feather it's blows for you, if there is one it's probably been censored and neutered in some way.
You should appreciate the honesty, even if it's not something you want to hear. Because we've been fucked with, and deplatformed. Many of us have a chip on our shoulder because of it.
Lurk, have a laugh. You haven't been deported yet.
Cheers!
I think so.
We are in the middle of a meme war here though, my friend. We are under assault daily.
The velocity of the site is very quick and gives many whiplash. Friendly fire happens. Don't take it personally. KAG 2020
Please read the sidebar. Use logic and be patient to get your message across.
What's your beef right now? This is the most accepting site for Trump supporters anywhere.
Do you have thin skin? Or you support free speech at its fullest?
well if you are being called a cuck that much you should probably do some self reflection on your ideas.
Asking if you belong here or will fit in is kind of a cuck thing to do also. Pick up your balls and just post or let your wife's boyfriend post for you.
Considering I've seen T_D and now T_D.WIN members friendly to anyone no matter their political view, or view of Potus, as long as they were reasonable and acted kindly, I'd say yes.
Speak your mind here. Pretty diverse thought on the range of subjects. If some one is trolling you they might be a shill report it to the god mods and let them handle it. Have fun!
Learn by reading and sharing. Second, grow a thick skin. You're too soft if the way we communicate hurts your feelings. It's the truth and you need to accept it to grow.
You're just new and it's growing pains. Stick around and you'll learn to adapt and ignore what's a waste if your time. A lot of us don't agree on everything. Homosexual marriage is a big one. Religion is another. We all support President Trump.
Dragging Kyle, you were asking for it!
Take it on the chin, this is a 24/7 rally.
OK, you disagree with some people, big shock.
We have pro-choice and pro-life people here, if they can get along...
Shall Not Be Infringed
You have some people who think Blown Arm Boy was right to be carrying despite it being illegal.
> illegal to be carrying
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
If you take away another's rights, (through violence, rape, kidnapping, etc. Basically any felony) you forfeit your own rights as well.
This has been the common law of the land for centuries. Be glad that these days you'll usually be out of prison on parole pretty fast, back in the day they used to just kill the guilty.
Some say it was better back then.
Gotta say I disagree with the guy above, the problem wasn't that you were dragging Kyle, it was that your argument comes across as so... pathetic?
What if he was 14! isn't an argument.
Saying he should have just stayed home, isn't an argument.
Why should he have stayed home? Is that how we should all live now whilst these terrorists get free roam of the streets, burning, raping, killing and looting and we can't even show up with force just to at least intimidate them?
It seems like the point of your post was to ask, "Can someone convince me why it was reasonable for Kyle to show up to this dangerous protest with a gun when he could have just stayed at home".
How exactly would you like the people here to react to this situation now that it's happened? Regardless of all of the legal specifics and the age and reason for Kyle being there. We just witnessed some guy defend himself effortlessly against a horde of violent commies, the video is incredible, we've all been hoping that someone would finally come out on top when these commies attack and they finally did, so how exactly should the meme makers and commie haters here respond? Because I know how they'd respond if Kyle was beaten to death or killed.
Alright I had some sympathy towards you at the start, I figured you just didn't understand how to properly make your argument as your first post was just a big wall of text that didn't really make any solid points, so I gave you the benefit of the doubt and tried to engage with you here.
Then you dismiss my argument, provide nothing constructive to discuss, tell me I'm not offering anything new or insightful and sound like you're crying.
I understand now why they called you a cuck.
You argue like a girl, because you are one, I asked multiple questions that you could have answered but I bet you stopped reading when I called your argument pathetic because you got triggered instead of reflecting on your own behaviour.
So what if militias start at 17? Just because you learned that new piece of information you no longer hold the beliefs that you previously held? You hold too much value on law and systems.
Your points are all based on radical assumptions, like how celebrating Kyle somehow encourages incompetent kids to go out and do the same?
Don't come crying on here asking why nobody will engage in a discussion with you and then when someone tries, you shrivel up and say "look dude we're not gonna agree". Well then what the fuck was the point in your post? I was looking to find middle ground with you and help you understand where the previous backlash might have come from.
Don't let the idjits get you down.
And remember, anywhere we gather, there also go the degenerate shit eaters of the leftist troll, shill and black piller (defeatist) variety.
Don’t take it personal. I’m a huge Trump supporter, been with him since he came down the escalator, but still butt heads with people on here sometimes.
We all come from very different walks of life. That’s the amazing thing about this movement - it’s comprised of a much more diverse and nuanced group of people than the mainstream media would let you think. We’re all going to have different opinions here and there. Unlike the left, we actually do value diversity of thought, but we are all patriots who share one thing in common - we love America and support Trump.
dont get butthurt
sounds a bit like bs. i live in sf, ca - i sometimes disagree with Trump verbally. i tell people how I think is. yes here on tdw.
well i rarely get called names or anything like that here, and when i do its by a new account (and usually some actual paid shill i assume)
this is actually the forum where i get the least amount of shit for what i say, including non political forums lol
I read your posting history. You are taking a minority opinion on the Kyle topic (he shouldn’t be there in the first place). No issues with that. But you shouldn’t be surprised when minority opinions draw down-votes. Also, you engage with everybody who disagrees with you. Again, don’t be surprised when you encounter resistance. Do you really expect people to say: Thank you minaturepotato for enlightening me. Now that I see my mistake, I fully agree with you. That’s not how any community on the internet works.
Sometimes it is necessary agreeing to disagree.
I BTW see your point. If Kyle would be my son, I would do everything possible to stop him from going near Kenosha! He seems to be a very good kid. I’m glad he survived. I have no sympathy for the people he shot, but if he would be my boy, he wouldn’t be out there confronting this crazy, hateful and murderous mob.
This is a winning idea. If you can't take us and the shelling we engage in with each other, you'll be hard pressed to survive when trying to counter all the commie bullshit in the real world. Thick skin is a result of being here long enough.
I would disagree that this isn’t the place for minority opinions, it’s just that because of the amount of shills this site attracts, people are going to be quick to downvote anything that trips their shill radar - which is what usually happens to minority opinions.
I read your Kyle post. While, overall, I agree he was 17 and probably should have been at home. However, he wasn’t. In terms of the memes, I think you’re missing something. A lot of people will self identify with what he did. A lot of people would do the same thing (protect their homes and businesses) in that situation, if this happened in their town. And like Trump there can be a lot of hyperbole in the memes. Yes, it appears he crossed state lines. However, we don’t know the circumstances surrounding that. He doesn’t live far from Kenosha. He could have family there. We just don’t know. And honestly, it’s been building towards this outcome for months. If it wasn’t this kid, in this town it would have been someone else, somewhere else. This was always going to be the inevitable outcome.
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Hey Fren - you’re welcome here.
This is an ideological Wild West of people with various beliefs, opinions, views, ideas, etc.
But we all share a belief that Trump is good for the country.
Don’t sweat names etc, it’s nothing important.
Never be afraid to ask.
The sites gotten large so patience finding those you most align with.
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I've had a quick browse of your history to understand why you might be called a cuck and the first obvious example I found was you making a post to question why people are calling Kyle a hero, you played a lot of "whataboutism".
"So if it's "legal" for a 17 year old, then what about a 16yo, 15yo, 14yo."
Kyle was 17. It is legal (As far as I know, feel free to correct me) for a 17 year old to carry the rifle that he had, and to cross a state border with it (I think you and others are putting some serious significance behind the idea of crossing a "state border" when you shouldn't, he lived very close to the border and it's a free country, this area was still part of his community).
The question you asked isn't leading anywhere, it's not looking for answers and it's not based on the reality of the situation, I think the reaction here would be significantly different if Kyle was 14 years old, we would all be asking where his parents are.
Your other issue was with the fact that he was being celebrated as a hero.
First you've just gotta get over the age thing, yes he is young and there's some questions to be had about why he was there, but if you were to ignore his age and imagine he was 25, would you still have a problem with him being called a hero?
The guy was expressing his right to peaceably assemble and bear arms, you seem to care about the law so much so here's your lawful response, Kyle did everything legally, he's legally allowed to show up and form a counter-protest or join their protest.
Now, as for him being a hero.
He just displayed an incredible ability to protect himself and stay composed in one of the most stressful situations that anyone could be in, he was being attacked from all angles by pedo's, wife and child beaters and a felon with a gun and he perfectly handled every single attack with the least amount of force necessary and without harming a single innocent person.
In my books, that's a hero. The alternative was death. They would have 100% killed him if he surrendered to them or failed to defend himself. We've seen the evidence of that and I bet he has too.
As for the name calling, often the names are meant as a general description, if I call you a cuck it's because I think you're acting soft and pathetic and need to man up, or that you're acting like a leftist, thinking emotionally instead of logically.
This place is basically supposed to be a 24/7 Trump rally. We are free to disagree with each other on most things, we've just got to be ready for some blowback every once in a while.
I got downvoted for calling Trump's pardon of Susan B. Anthony "Gay" (that was the entirety of the comment).
You don't need to be a bootlicker by any means. Stick around and get a feel for it, and if it's not your cup of tea, no hard feelings.
Even with Anaconda, a user who gets downvoted A LOT, most people don't harass him (no idea what his DMs are like). Like people might not have liked your comment, but they probably won't follow you around on every thread, and say "your opinion isn't valid because you don't think Kyle is the second coming of George Washington!!!"
So basically what others have said, I have better luck on here than on FB with friends and family.
Look for the most downvoted comments on the big Kyle threads, and it will probably be Anaconda. Like you probably got, some call him a shill, but I don't think so, I think he's just an opinionated dude who has many views that aren't in the majority here, and I like his posts and am glad he is here, even though I often disagree.
Similarly, I probably mostly disagree with you on Kyle (I just see comments here, didn't look in your history), but I like hearing other opinions, don't downvote just because I disagree, and think there are many like me.
Supporting Kyle is a make or break. Some things we can all disagree on. I cannot fathom how you can not support Kyle and spread the "cross state lines/coummunity he's not apart of" bullshit when the kid lived 15 minutes away from the place.
If you can't support Kyle here, I question if you have ANY fundamental conservative ideals.
I did read your post, and I quoted it. I think its stupid and irrelevant and it sounds like you were raised either in a big city or in an incredibly cushy environment.
My grandfather went to Normandy and he was barely 19. I'm sure he killed a lot of people there thought he never really talked about it.
Its not about encouraging our kids to go out into the fray. But he is a hero, and not like the 100s of trash we see out there being destructive. So why disparage him?
Don't bother engaging with this girl, she's so soft and can't handle the slightest bit of criticism, it's pathetic.
She gets offended that you call her post stupid and irrelevant, because she thinks you're calling her stupid and irrelevant. She literally doesn't know how to argue, she thinks arguing is when you tell her she's right and kiss her ass.
Before you get too offended, you should try being from California on this forum, lol.
Just roll with it and try not to take it too personally. If somebody really lights you up then there’s a block link under their post so you don’t have to see any future posts from them if you don’t want to.
We really are accommodating, it just sounds like you got off on the wrong foot.
Those of us not from Cali have some very opinionated views and notions about California. Sometimes we all get a little out of hand in hot threads.
Trump is about truth and winning. This post above by you provides misinformation ("not his community") and a wrong leftist narrative. It is also a losing mindset. Of course a 17 year old shouldn't have to protect life and property. No one thinks that. But when SHTF and the Dem politicians stood back and the community burned, Kyle rose to the occasion. He brought also a med kit and protected others. When commie criminals attacked him he faced death. He beat the odds without any collateral damage. That's a hero.
In the future do your own research. Go on Duckduckgo and check where Kyle lives and how far away the incident happened.
And post less. More input, less output. You will be voting for the first time in 2020. Be humble. Many here fought the commies for a long time and assuming you know more than them makes you look foolish in hindsight.
You are on the right path but need more knowledge.
In a way- yes, but it helps to have a thick skin. Those who comment don't know you so as odd as it seems, they aren't reacting to you. They are only reacting to what you commented or posted. With that in mind, there's no need to take their comments personally. I've shit the bed pretty hard with some of my comments and posts. If it looks like I'll be downvoted into oblivion, I usually just delete the comment, figure out what I really meant to say, and then repost it in a more appealing way (or abandon it).
r/the_donald and now, thedonald.win in my eyes represent a stylized hyper-reaction. Ideally, we would want a place where even critical ideas can be debated, but the same psy-ops that was utilized against ISIS was somehow authorized to be used against us. That is why anyone who is suspected of not being a Trump supporter is immediately deported here, and it is also why anything borderline tends to draw hyper-sensitive reactions. The vast majority of the people on this site are cool and worth interacting with. But we seriously have a ton of psy-ops being directed at us from our own government and also from no shortage of foreign governments. The rules of this site keep us safe from most of their efforts to manipulate us. But the price we pay for that is that we are trapped in an echo chamber. It is by far the most fun echo chamber online though.
You talk so much shit.
I just wrote out some gay paragraph to try to engage your thought process and have a productive conversation like you claim to want, and your response was "Look dude, we just don't agree", as if I was trying to push my beliefs onto you.
Get a grip and stop expecting everyone here to treat you with kid gloves. You asked a dumb question and people took their time to tell you why it was dumb, you didn't try to engage in conversation, you got upset that someone would disagree with you and have the cheek to call you a cuck!! Then you made another post to cry about it and ask if you belong here.
If you have to ask then the answer is obvious.
You don't get to control the discussion on your posts. You asked a question relating to your previous posts, so don't be surprised when people go back and check your old posts to figure out what your problem is.
You argue like such a child, get a grip and go watch some Change My Mind or something and try not to be like the pathetic lefties that throw a tantrum when Crowder provides facts.
Let me help you. You are on a political website... one that supports Donald Trump unequivocally.
To expect our support of your opposition opinions, just to get a rise and make us convince you of our shared view of the world right now is completely insincere and will bring out the worst responses.
You sound like an angry/suffering person, that is punching down. Who hurt you?
The fact that you cannot even capitalize letters... speaks volumes.
Your post sounds fake and gay. I’m sure reddit has a safe place for you where you can be protected from people who think differently than you and will ensure no one challenges your beliefs or calls you names. People like you who can’t handle people using words as they see fit have a political party, they are out burning your streets right now, feel free to join them.
I think it’s fine to have an unpopular opinion and even state it, but don’t expect to be embraced.
And FWIW, I think Kyle should have stayed home- although he clearly was able to handle himself extraordinarily well. And it is a good instinct to want to protect good things from those who are destroying them - and the same instinct that we admire in our WWII heroes.
There’s probably a reason young men are the bulk of our military - and why their moms and sisters have trouble letting them go.
No time for hand patting.
Be generous with disclaimers. Personally I despise weasel words and language but remember, it's very easy to be misunderstood online. Once you are misunderstood, it's very hard to correct the narrative.
For example: I myself personally am not against H1B Visas even though I know the majority of people on this website are. My belief comes from working in the tech industry and knowing that Indians are incredibly based and productive members of society. If there's going to be immigration at all, I'm okay with it being groups like that. "Dey took arr jobs" is a problem yes, but so is abusing internships or firing people with years on the job to hire a replacement fresh out of college and pay them half as much. Business is gonna business.
But whenever I post in threads about H1B or immigration, I'm very careful to qualify my position, or use a disclaimer like "Controversial take" or "I know it's unpopular but" at the start of my post.
Also consider a lot of people will check your post history before they ass-blast you. If you never post on the easy, popular threads where it's an upvote train and you only ever post to voice concerns or complaints then your post history is going to make people think you are a troll.
It's called "black-pilling" where you try to spawn a wave of negativity under the guise of highlighting a "legitimate" issue. There are always going to be disagreements, and Trump will do or not do things that certain segments of his supporters may or may not agree with, but we try not to focus on those and instead focus on the things that have near universal support.
Hell, there's plenty of atheistic Trump supporters. But they are smart enough to just scroll past the posts and stickies of Bible verses without comment and let the rest of us enjoy our faith. (And Atheist Pedes, I do appreciate you for it and "think positive thoughts" for you anyway if you won't accept prayers.)
So, if you have something that's clearly an opinion, make sure that is clear and be careful to leave room for other people to have a differing opinion without having to feel the need to choose a side. To use an example posted below, we can all agree that it sucks that it's come to the point that the only person willing to stand up for what's right is a 17-year-old kid with his whole life and future ahead of him. Now he's being crucified on social media and this will follow him forever no matter where he goes or what he does. That's brutal. But for some, that makes him a hero because he did what seemingly no grown ups in the room were willing to do.
So rather than try to debate the merits of whether or not Kyle should have been there, just join the universal chorus of condemnation for the events and failed elected officials that let it escalate to that point.
I'm curious what your views are that got you called these names. You are calling yourself a conservative. That would put you in the meary party of the curve here.