"Shot at" is questionably accurate, although someone does shoot, and it's hard to tell if that person is pursuing Kyle or not. The self defense is justifiable without that first shot. As noted the first "victim" was trying to assault people with guns, tries to take Kyle's gun, and is seen chasing Kyle.
Back to that gunshot, you do see several people with long poles that appear to be pursuing Kyle from a distance, near the person who fired a shot into the air. Kyle was probably in more danger than he realized. I think there was a mob pursuing him before that first shot, and it may have been the same mob chasing him during the 2nd and 3rd shots.
I think it's going to be practically impossible to suggest Kyle should have done anything different during the first shooting. Kyle was already retreating. He fired at the last possible moment. Failing to shoot would have resulted in lost of control over the weapon. The other guy was VERY aggressive, as evidenced by both the chasing and assault on a person with a gun, and the earlier video of "shoot me nigga."
If the first was self-defense, then the 2nd and 3rd would logically also be self-defense, even if the people attacking him were doing so with good intentions. The intention of the attackers is irrelevant to whether self-defense is justified, however it is an interesting question...
Now, we see the 2nd and 3rd person at the "shoot me nigga" incident. The skateboard guy is dressed like antifa and carrying a skateboard that he runs with and uses as a club but doesn't skate with, and is also seen supporting the original antagonize. They were both aware of people trying to pick fights with persons holding guns, and may have both been instigating, and completely aware they were chasing and assaulting a guy who might have just defended himself.
The only one who might have had (mislead) good intentions would be the "paramedic hat" person with the gun, which Kyle disarmed, but we do have those comments about him saying he wished he had killed Kyle, and some other possible evidence he may have been a riot leader.
I reckon Kyle is very lucky that the armless guy attacked him, the alternative would have been two people in an awkward standoff and I highly suspect that the commie would have fired at Kyle when given the chance.
Just strange that he went for a lunge rather than a shot with the fucking gun that he was holding.
Yeah, Kyle handled it perfectly and the un-armed guy fucked up spectacularly.
I've played games where I make a split decision and I hate myself for it, I can't imagine what it feels like to make such a fucked up decision in the heat of the moment and end up not only not killing the guy, but losing a chunk out of your fucking arm lmao.
If self preservation is an instinct you possess and someone is chasing you with a gun, it's not a bad idea to shoot them first. And luckily it ended up being the perfect placed shot. Outside of a head shot the commie could have squeezed off a few rounds at Kyle. But that arm was blown to smithereens and rendered completely useless.
Yep, you see his wrist go completely limp when his arm gets shot. It also looks like with the trajectory he was moving, if kyle had pulled the trigger a millisecond later arm guy would have taken a bullet to the heart or chest. He's that lucky to be alive right now really.
It looks slightly different from different angles. From behind Kyle, it looks more like faking surrender before pointing the pistol at Kyle, from Kyle's left, it looks like he was trying to approach Kyle for execution after entering the edge of Kyle's peripheral vision to conceal the gun pointing. From Kyle's right, on video, the events happened so quickly in real time that Kyle was sucker punched, hit with a skateboard, then had the pistol pointed at him in very rapid succession making it unclear if Lefty was trying anything at all or almost pointed the pistol at Kyle's head and got disarmed a split second before the barrel could reach Kyle's head. Either way they were all chasing and assaulting a 17yo and almost killed him. Attempted murder, assault with intent to commit grievous harm, battery, intimidation, brandishing it doesn't really make a difference as long as Lefty gets hit with something. Zero chance of that happening.
A convicted felon in possession of a gun that nobody is interested in prosecuting or arresting so far. Felons can have their rights restored in certain states but I'm guessing you share my skepticism that this is anything besides the AG and police in WI taking sides with a violent communist.
Looks like he was trying to shove the rifle muzzle aside with his left hand while bringing his right hand around to shoot the pistol. There is another angle that better shows him moving to shove the muzzle aside.
Not familiar with that one. It can happen for a few seconds when someone gets locked up in fight or flight. But anyone who isn't simple will quickly realize I can't wait for him to decide to shoot me first.
That’s lack of training for ya. A trained individual would have drawn, assumed a firing position from a distance and kept the weapon trained on the target. Commie trash tried to shoot him point blank range like a noob
"hands up" guy was clear case of self defense as a still photo showed his arm exploding a fraction of a second before he had a Glock trained at Kyle's head.
Oh, for sure, the gun was pointed at Kyle at the moment Kyle fired, and he was lunging at Kyle. Even still, we have evidence that he intended to kill Kyle, but failed, which is very strongly in favor of self-defense.
You can hear a spare round hit some metal gutter or something and the round bounce around echoing off what sounds like a metal tube/through a metal tube at one point. perhaps penetrated/caught in some tube like structure. That sounded like incoming fire after the fact.
McGinnis stated that before the defendant reached the parking lot and ran across it, the defendant had moved from the middle of Sheridan Road to the sidewalk and that is when McGinnis saw a male (Rosenbaum) initially try to engage the defendant. McGinnis stated that as the defendant was walking Rosenbaum was trying to get closer to the defendant. When Rosenbaum advanced, the defendant did a “juke” move and started running. McGinnis stated that there were other people that were moving very quickly. McGinnis stated that they were moving towards the defendant. McGinnis said that according to what he saw the defendant was trying to evade these individuals.
It looks like we have confirmation that Kyle was being chased by a mob at the time of the first shots. This is very likely the same mob that assaults him during the 2nd and 3rd shooting. I'd be curious to see if we could get more footage from security cameras in the area, because it wouldn't surprise me if several of the people seen assaulting Kyle during the 2nd shooting were pursuing him from the very beginning.
Here's two videos with a slowmo breakdown, showing the first gunshots clearly. The people chasing Kyle definitely had guns out and one of them was firing it.
That second video really clears up the first shooting. I thought Kyle ran off to the left and "shoot me nigga" was in effect running away after throwing... whatever that was... and was shot from the left side. He kept chasing Kyle, who turned to shoot, then ran around the cars to circle back and enter from the left. That's totally justified, especially since a gunshot went off just before Kyle turned to shoot. It would be reasonable for him to assume he was being shot at since he was being chased.
I don't see how murder or any other charges stick after seeing this.
If these charges stick then no. No more precedent. The fat lady has sung. The social contract has been irrevocably broken. There's no longer any doubt we live under a vichy government run by quislings and we've come to the rubicon. Fortunately the justice system is slow so nothing significant is going to happen with Kyle's case until after 01/20/2021.
I'm going to climb on broken glass uphill in the snow both ways to vote in person for Trump this November. I pray to G-d that is enough.
I don't see how murder or any other charges stick after seeing this.
Especially 1st Degree Murder which requires a clear amount of premeditation. I knew they screwed up with that charge immediately. They could try at manslaughter at best but even then there is a solid self-defense case.
Had not seen the second angle before, which pretty clearly shows the pedo guy get low and load up for a bull rush, right as Kyle turns to defend himself. The headshot would appear to be a total coincidence from the guy a) being short already, and b) crouching down to attack him. Kyle showed remarkable restraint and accuracy in all his follow-up shots in attempting to incapacitate the aggressors, not execute them head-shot style.
The headshot was a glancing blow. Read the full autopsy report, it's already out there.
ShortStack was shot in the groin, shattering his pelvis, in the chest, shattering his liver and right lung, through the left hand/arm, in the thigh, and a glancing blow on his head.
The first shot appeared to be into the air from someone on the sidewalk with a handgun. The muzzle flash was caught on video. This happened while the napoleon complexed man was chasing Kyle.
This report claims “bust on me guy” was trying to take Kyle’s gun, combined with others opening fire, Kyle should walk free. Another Soros prosecutor subverting the rule of law.
The people need more oversight for DAs and AGs. Disbarring should be common place for political prosecutions. But these modern day guilds protect their bad apples because they think it will protect them later.
Doctors rarely testify against other docs. Relative to the actual number of malpractice. Same goes for any other profession unless is massive misconduct. I personally cant wrap my mind around protecting assholes in a group that bring everyone down.
Video from the side catches him firing it. It is the big goofy dude seen with RosEmbalm and his blm chick in the shoot me nigga scene. blm chick was filming too she was next to big goofy when he did it.
Yup, you can see him point it towards Kyle but up in the air. Screams "Fuck You!" at him after. Like he was popping off a round behind him to scare him and keep him running.
Well yeah, even the NY Slimes was forced to admit that Kyle wasn't the first person to fire a shot there. If the leftist DA thinks they're going to pin him with multiple counts of Murder 1, they've got another thing coming. This is a clear cut case of self defense in all instances.
At most, they might slap him with the maximum penalty for carrying a firearm while underage, but at that point you're essentially just penalizing a kid for having the tool to protect his own life while he was under attack. Without that rifle, Kyle would be a bloody smear on the Kenosha pavement, so good luck with the optics of locking a kid up for not letting himself be killed.
I fully believe that if a jury acquits him of the murder charges but convicts him of unlawful possession of a firearm he's going to receive a pardon
if a jury of his peers don't think he committed murder, that he was in the right, it was the definition of a good shoot, but they say "well you know he really shouldn't have had a gun"
paramedic hat guy who got his arm blown off was a convicted felon and was also unlawfully in possession of a firearm. penalties offset, first down.
Saw something earlier about 17 being the minimum age for militia membership. I think that’s a nationwide thing? Not sure though, if true it should supersede local laws.
Oh I get it, I was just bringing it up because I keep seeing deranged lefties basically saying that since he was technically breaking the law carrying it, everything after that was a crime and I disagree. If I forgot my concealed permit and ended up using my concealed weapon to defend myself, theres a chance that I may get some small charge for not having my permit but not having it doesn't make my self-defense any less of a self-defense.
I just don't bother arguing with leftists. It's pointless. Their delusion and denial doesn't matter. What does matter is what happens in court, and he's got a top notch lawyer.
Besides, the left hate the law and those who defend and enforce it. Why listen to their made up definitions of how they think it works?
The problem here is that the witness’s statement gets in the way of the narrative, woven to aid in the destruction of American ideals and its replacement with Marxism.
At this point, we cannot expect the media to cover this dutifully to the truth, but rather dutifully to their seditious intentions.
People with no real world concepts of life and death and how quickly we can go from alive to dead. To them life is a video game or a movie. I used to browse watchpeopledie frequently and it gave me what I consider to be a healthy perspective of the fragility of life. I know, from graphic and gruesome videos of death, what an AR-15 does to flesh. It's not some concept of "getting shot" because I've seen some of those terrible videos. Arm guy learned it the hard way. He probably expected a bloody hole he could get stitched up, not the flesh of his bicep exploding into a fine pink mist. These people probably think they can respawn like a video games. Fucking morons.
Of course he was shot at first. The narrative now is that skateboard pedophile was heroically trying to prevent Kyle from killing more people. When he caught Kyle, I’m sure that he was planning on placing him under citizens arrest, safely restraining him, and summoning police officers so Kyle could be transferred into their custody. Surrrreeeeeee
Interesting how many shots that the pedo-runt took. And the one that probably killed him was through his back into his liver. The shot to his head was just a graze.
"Huber had a skateboard in his right hand and used it to “make contact” with Rittenhouse’s left shoulder as they struggled for control of the gun."
so, whacking someone with a skateboard is "making contact"
A man fires a pistol right near them into the air... the big context is this is as Kyle is running away with back turned when man fires and being chased shortly after Rosenbeum grabs kyle and he defends himself.
Kyle heard gunshots as he retreated from a attacker and then was grabbed
He was a volunteer EMT, there are videos of him prior to the shooting attending to a girl who was hit with a projectile. Kyle was a Good Samaritan who wisely armed himself should his kindness be turned upon which it inevitably was. Kindly go fuck yourself, shill
Your country is under a direct communist attack, but let's wait for law enforcement to do something about it, you know after their stand down orders are removed
You haven't been around for the Rooftop Koreans memes have you?
You haven't seen the video with the rolling dumpster fire on Sheridan road with the guy racking the slide on his handgun in front of Kyle and all the people he came with?
We're you here for the couple who were defending their mansion behind the gated community when they came busting down the gate?
Did you see the visit on Gretchen Whitmer with all the people showing up to the capital building open carrying and the left threw a fit about them not social distancing and whining about guns?
Kenosha was practically his backyard. All the kids with cars goto the neighboring towns for fun. It wouldn't be any different if he were defending property in Zion, Waukegan, Winthrop Harbor, Gurnee, or Beach Park. Just because it's across state line doesn't mean he doesn't frequent Kenosha, or have lived there, know people who live there, worked there, watched a movie at the theater there, or attend church there.
The guy shot in the arm with the Milwaukee "Wu-Tang" styled shirt would have come from a farther distance to cause destruction.
If you think it's right for people to come from a larger city, Milwaukee, to destroy things in a smaller town, yet have a problem with someone coming from another nearby small town to try to deter crime you might just have a moral deficit.
Many here have advocated we start standing up to the mob, and no longer be the silenced majority. Kyle did what many of us keyboard warriors haven't done. He put himself at risk for property and life that wasn't even his.
I think I’m about there. I’m starting to believe that a warning that these riots need to stop or a militia is coming in to remove them is warranted. If they don’t stop, then send the guns in to remove them.
The governments won’t do it and it emboldens others. Soon this will be larger and will leave the cities. We are creating more anarchistic Brownshirt Marxists With each day passing.
If we do start defending, just make sure you can keep some distance between you and the mob. Watching the videos of the milita-members in Kenosha, the rioters were able to get right in their face. I'd prefer if I could justifiably shoot someone before they got close enough to touch me.
You have proof of the absolute literal opposite, why are you so fucking retarded?
Kyle successfully defended himself against these commies and the next night there was basically no violence or riots. He was a one man army and he kicked ass.
Kyle went there to risk himself to save the property and life of other people who were more vulnerable.
He succeeded in that task. Even though it will cost him dearly, someone innocent very well may have been murdered by that mob that night, and because of his actions the conversation in Kenosha is now forever changed.
If these mobs are not stopped it is only a matter of time until they are dragging people out of their homes and executing them in the street. History shows this over and over again.
What would have happened if he was just a good Samaritan without a gun being chased by a mob for trying to put out fires and prevent destruction of property?
Because you seem to think that it's a well known fact that when commies see an "AK" (not an AK) hanging off someone's chest, they go into war mode, that somehow justifies them attacking him and makes him in the wrong for even existing?
BLM faggots should just control the streets and we should do our best not to trigger their instincts to attack people with guns?
Overwhelm 911 operators? What would that accomplish other than hurt more innocent people who need help in an emergency?
The people from whom action should be demanded are these worthless Dem mayors and governors who would rather pander to rioters than protect their communities
if 911 lines are blowing up because of fires and riots and fights, then something will have to give.
Dem mayors won't be able to go against the will of the people forever, the cries for justice will have to be answered
It's like when the cable goes out, if one person reports it, might be fixed later tonight, but when 20 people report it, usually it gets sorted in an hour or two.
Everyone stays quiet so people assume everyone is on the side of BLM. 300 911 calls > 300 black fists on instagram
"Shot at" is questionably accurate, although someone does shoot, and it's hard to tell if that person is pursuing Kyle or not. The self defense is justifiable without that first shot. As noted the first "victim" was trying to assault people with guns, tries to take Kyle's gun, and is seen chasing Kyle.
Back to that gunshot, you do see several people with long poles that appear to be pursuing Kyle from a distance, near the person who fired a shot into the air. Kyle was probably in more danger than he realized. I think there was a mob pursuing him before that first shot, and it may have been the same mob chasing him during the 2nd and 3rd shots.
I think it's going to be practically impossible to suggest Kyle should have done anything different during the first shooting. Kyle was already retreating. He fired at the last possible moment. Failing to shoot would have resulted in lost of control over the weapon. The other guy was VERY aggressive, as evidenced by both the chasing and assault on a person with a gun, and the earlier video of "shoot me nigga."
If the first was self-defense, then the 2nd and 3rd would logically also be self-defense, even if the people attacking him were doing so with good intentions. The intention of the attackers is irrelevant to whether self-defense is justified, however it is an interesting question...
Now, we see the 2nd and 3rd person at the "shoot me nigga" incident. The skateboard guy is dressed like antifa and carrying a skateboard that he runs with and uses as a club but doesn't skate with, and is also seen supporting the original antagonize. They were both aware of people trying to pick fights with persons holding guns, and may have both been instigating, and completely aware they were chasing and assaulting a guy who might have just defended himself.
The only one who might have had (mislead) good intentions would be the "paramedic hat" person with the gun, which Kyle disarmed, but we do have those comments about him saying he wished he had killed Kyle, and some other possible evidence he may have been a riot leader.
I reckon Kyle is very lucky that the armless guy attacked him, the alternative would have been two people in an awkward standoff and I highly suspect that the commie would have fired at Kyle when given the chance.
Just strange that he went for a lunge rather than a shot with the fucking gun that he was holding.
Yeah, Kyle handled it perfectly and the un-armed guy fucked up spectacularly.
I've played games where I make a split decision and I hate myself for it, I can't imagine what it feels like to make such a fucked up decision in the heat of the moment and end up not only not killing the guy, but losing a chunk out of your fucking arm lmao.
Watch the MSM start calling the guy with the glock "un-armed" because Kyle blew his arm off lol
Irony. Delicious irony.
If self preservation is an instinct you possess and someone is chasing you with a gun, it's not a bad idea to shoot them first. And luckily it ended up being the perfect placed shot. Outside of a head shot the commie could have squeezed off a few rounds at Kyle. But that arm was blown to smithereens and rendered completely useless.
Yep, you see his wrist go completely limp when his arm gets shot. It also looks like with the trajectory he was moving, if kyle had pulled the trigger a millisecond later arm guy would have taken a bullet to the heart or chest. He's that lucky to be alive right now really.
Hes probably been a limp wristed weenie for years before that night
It looks slightly different from different angles. From behind Kyle, it looks more like faking surrender before pointing the pistol at Kyle, from Kyle's left, it looks like he was trying to approach Kyle for execution after entering the edge of Kyle's peripheral vision to conceal the gun pointing. From Kyle's right, on video, the events happened so quickly in real time that Kyle was sucker punched, hit with a skateboard, then had the pistol pointed at him in very rapid succession making it unclear if Lefty was trying anything at all or almost pointed the pistol at Kyle's head and got disarmed a split second before the barrel could reach Kyle's head. Either way they were all chasing and assaulting a 17yo and almost killed him. Attempted murder, assault with intent to commit grievous harm, battery, intimidation, brandishing it doesn't really make a difference as long as Lefty gets hit with something. Zero chance of that happening.
He is a convicted felon in possession of a gun.
A convicted felon in possession of a gun that nobody is interested in prosecuting or arresting so far. Felons can have their rights restored in certain states but I'm guessing you share my skepticism that this is anything besides the AG and police in WI taking sides with a violent communist.
He likely violated several federal laws. That would be Barr's department.
Looks like he was trying to shove the rifle muzzle aside with his left hand while bringing his right hand around to shoot the pistol. There is another angle that better shows him moving to shove the muzzle aside.
Standoffs are a Hollywood myth. They don't happen in real life. You can't give the other person the chance to pull the trigger first.
happened once at one protest, guy in truck and protester pointing guns at each other for several seconds
Not familiar with that one. It can happen for a few seconds when someone gets locked up in fight or flight. But anyone who isn't simple will quickly realize I can't wait for him to decide to shoot me first.
That’s lack of training for ya. A trained individual would have drawn, assumed a firing position from a distance and kept the weapon trained on the target. Commie trash tried to shoot him point blank range like a noob
Paramedic Hat/Gaige Grosenkreuz is on camera saying, "I was trying to get him [Rittenhouse] back" after being shot in the arm.
Link?
Just call him lefty.
Byeceps
I'm going to have to steal that one
Oh fuck.... Lol!
Kek.
Most literal use of the word.
De-armed
"hands up" guy was clear case of self defense as a still photo showed his arm exploding a fraction of a second before he had a Glock trained at Kyle's head.
Oh, for sure, the gun was pointed at Kyle at the moment Kyle fired, and he was lunging at Kyle. Even still, we have evidence that he intended to kill Kyle, but failed, which is very strongly in favor of self-defense.
You can hear a spare round hit some metal gutter or something and the round bounce around echoing off what sounds like a metal tube/through a metal tube at one point. perhaps penetrated/caught in some tube like structure. That sounded like incoming fire after the fact.
To update my previous post
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/08/27/details-revealed-state-vs-kyle-rittenhouse-criminal-complaint/
It looks like we have confirmation that Kyle was being chased by a mob at the time of the first shots. This is very likely the same mob that assaults him during the 2nd and 3rd shooting. I'd be curious to see if we could get more footage from security cameras in the area, because it wouldn't surprise me if several of the people seen assaulting Kyle during the 2nd shooting were pursuing him from the very beginning.
Here's two videos with a slowmo breakdown, showing the first gunshots clearly. The people chasing Kyle definitely had guns out and one of them was firing it.
https://streamable.com/ubqy2t
Same timeframe, different angle:
https://streamable.com/sa9hl5
Confirmed: streamable is faggot.
That second video really clears up the first shooting. I thought Kyle ran off to the left and "shoot me nigga" was in effect running away after throwing... whatever that was... and was shot from the left side. He kept chasing Kyle, who turned to shoot, then ran around the cars to circle back and enter from the left. That's totally justified, especially since a gunshot went off just before Kyle turned to shoot. It would be reasonable for him to assume he was being shot at since he was being chased.
I don't see how murder or any other charges stick after seeing this.
If these charges stick it will be a disgusting precedent. If one couldn't use their weapon to defend themselves in this situation then when can they?
If these charges stick then no. No more precedent. The fat lady has sung. The social contract has been irrevocably broken. There's no longer any doubt we live under a vichy government run by quislings and we've come to the rubicon. Fortunately the justice system is slow so nothing significant is going to happen with Kyle's case until after 01/20/2021.
I'm going to climb on broken glass uphill in the snow both ways to vote in person for Trump this November. I pray to G-d that is enough.
https://i.imgur.com/JekXPCL.png
Especially 1st Degree Murder which requires a clear amount of premeditation. I knew they screwed up with that charge immediately. They could try at manslaughter at best but even then there is a solid self-defense case.
Had not seen the second angle before, which pretty clearly shows the pedo guy get low and load up for a bull rush, right as Kyle turns to defend himself. The headshot would appear to be a total coincidence from the guy a) being short already, and b) crouching down to attack him. Kyle showed remarkable restraint and accuracy in all his follow-up shots in attempting to incapacitate the aggressors, not execute them head-shot style.
The headshot was a glancing blow. Read the full autopsy report, it's already out there.
ShortStack was shot in the groin, shattering his pelvis, in the chest, shattering his liver and right lung, through the left hand/arm, in the thigh, and a glancing blow on his head.
Pedo should've been castrated a long time ago
Link to autopsy report? And the dude was shot in the dick?
Pedo shot in the groin by the minor he was chasing? That's poetry in motion.
I'm betting kyle thought he was being shot at here, which he may have been.
You can tell the Kenosha kid didn’t want to have to use the gun.
He immediately showed remorse for having to shoot the little man.
He called the police immediately.
What do touching would happen amid the angry mob caught up to him in the street later? Would they have checked on the victim and called the police?
No.
The Kenosha Kid. Damn. Now I've got this stuck in my head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQGGQ-FCe_w
The first shot appeared to be into the air from someone on the sidewalk with a handgun. The muzzle flash was caught on video. This happened while the napoleon complexed man was chasing Kyle.
This report claims “bust on me guy” was trying to take Kyle’s gun, combined with others opening fire, Kyle should walk free. Another Soros prosecutor subverting the rule of law.
The people need more oversight for DAs and AGs. Disbarring should be common place for political prosecutions. But these modern day guilds protect their bad apples because they think it will protect them later.
Doctors rarely testify against other docs. Relative to the actual number of malpractice. Same goes for any other profession unless is massive misconduct. I personally cant wrap my mind around protecting assholes in a group that bring everyone down.
DA confirmed to be a Soros product?
Video from the side catches him firing it. It is the big goofy dude seen with RosEmbalm and his blm chick in the shoot me nigga scene. blm chick was filming too she was next to big goofy when he did it.
Yup, you can see him point it towards Kyle but up in the air. Screams "Fuck You!" at him after. Like he was popping off a round behind him to scare him and keep him running.
Here's the "shoot first handgun guy" and his "redhair backpack wife" (i think they married, they both have wedding rings)
https://imgur.com/gallery/RX0lGsl
Upvote on imgur and get this out to the sheeple.
NYT video rundown of events https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298840777251008512
Remember a few days ago when we had a big thread discussing "warning shots"? Seems we have a practical example to work with now.
Well yeah, even the NY Slimes was forced to admit that Kyle wasn't the first person to fire a shot there. If the leftist DA thinks they're going to pin him with multiple counts of Murder 1, they've got another thing coming. This is a clear cut case of self defense in all instances.
At most, they might slap him with the maximum penalty for carrying a firearm while underage, but at that point you're essentially just penalizing a kid for having the tool to protect his own life while he was under attack. Without that rifle, Kyle would be a bloody smear on the Kenosha pavement, so good luck with the optics of locking a kid up for not letting himself be killed.
I fully believe that if a jury acquits him of the murder charges but convicts him of unlawful possession of a firearm he's going to receive a pardon
if a jury of his peers don't think he committed murder, that he was in the right, it was the definition of a good shoot, but they say "well you know he really shouldn't have had a gun"
paramedic hat guy who got his arm blown off was a convicted felon and was also unlawfully in possession of a firearm. penalties offset, first down.
These are state charges, and I definitely do not see the current governor giving him a pardon.
don't Presidential pardons override everything?
No, the president cannot pardon state charges. Only Federal.
well thank you for the civics lesson pede
poor Kyle is going to end up a martyr then. God bless that jury, I sincerely hope there is at least one patriot there willing to do the right thing.
Mentioned upthread, but Wisconsin law only prohibits minors owning short-barrel shotguns and pistols.
Saw something earlier about 17 being the minimum age for militia membership. I think that’s a nationwide thing? Not sure though, if true it should supersede local laws.
I thought I read where you have to be 18 to open carry there. Even if thats the case its probably a misdameanor.
The gun charge is minor in the face of the murder charges.
Oh I get it, I was just bringing it up because I keep seeing deranged lefties basically saying that since he was technically breaking the law carrying it, everything after that was a crime and I disagree. If I forgot my concealed permit and ended up using my concealed weapon to defend myself, theres a chance that I may get some small charge for not having my permit but not having it doesn't make my self-defense any less of a self-defense.
I just don't bother arguing with leftists. It's pointless. Their delusion and denial doesn't matter. What does matter is what happens in court, and he's got a top notch lawyer.
Besides, the left hate the law and those who defend and enforce it. Why listen to their made up definitions of how they think it works?
The problem here is that the witness’s statement gets in the way of the narrative, woven to aid in the destruction of American ideals and its replacement with Marxism.
At this point, we cannot expect the media to cover this dutifully to the truth, but rather dutifully to their seditious intentions.
-Benjamin Crump
At this point it looks like suicide by patriot. What kind of morons assault a guy holding an AR.
People with no real world concepts of life and death and how quickly we can go from alive to dead. To them life is a video game or a movie. I used to browse watchpeopledie frequently and it gave me what I consider to be a healthy perspective of the fragility of life. I know, from graphic and gruesome videos of death, what an AR-15 does to flesh. It's not some concept of "getting shot" because I've seen some of those terrible videos. Arm guy learned it the hard way. He probably expected a bloody hole he could get stitched up, not the flesh of his bicep exploding into a fine pink mist. These people probably think they can respawn like a video games. Fucking morons.
All 3 of them were criminals, with records. They were trying to take the gun from a.kidz he showed them he had every right to carry it
I would bet most of the professional agitators in BLM/Antifa are convicted felons. They can't get legit work, so they take Soros money.
Kyle's lawyers should sue grifter Shaun King and Ayanna Presley
Of course he was shot at first. The narrative now is that skateboard pedophile was heroically trying to prevent Kyle from killing more people. When he caught Kyle, I’m sure that he was planning on placing him under citizens arrest, safely restraining him, and summoning police officers so Kyle could be transferred into their custody. Surrrreeeeeee
If the DEMS win, they will kill Kyle.
Would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
I’m not even sure that Kyle shot the first guy.
Yeah that head opening seems too small. Perhaps he was mistakenly hit by his own from across the street?
Interesting how many shots that the pedo-runt took. And the one that probably killed him was through his back into his liver. The shot to his head was just a graze.
Get a load of this crap:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/victims-of-shooting-during-kenosha-protest-engaged-gunman/ar-BB18tCcr?ocid=msedgntp
so, whacking someone with a skateboard is "making contact"
I hope kamala shoots in Kyle's general direction
Maverick, DO NOT FIRE UNLESS FIRED UPON IS THAT CLEAR?
Wow, read that whole article, all the way to the end. It paints a completely different picture of Kyle.
https://www.facebook.com/bigdropbear/videos/324083191976929
Given the fact that a bald ex-convict chomo was sprinting after him with murderous intent I don't see what other information is needed lol
CNN is going to be bankrupt paying yet another multi million dollar libel settlement.
Makes sense.
A man fires a pistol right near them into the air... the big context is this is as Kyle is running away with back turned when man fires and being chased shortly after Rosenbeum grabs kyle and he defends himself.
Kyle heard gunshots as he retreated from a attacker and then was grabbed
"..even if the people attacking him were doing so with good intentions." We just want to give you this vaccine, you need it......
He was a volunteer EMT, there are videos of him prior to the shooting attending to a girl who was hit with a projectile. Kyle was a Good Samaritan who wisely armed himself should his kindness be turned upon which it inevitably was. Kindly go fuck yourself, shill
Your country is under a direct communist attack, but let's wait for law enforcement to do something about it, you know after their stand down orders are removed
I respectfully disagree with you.
No, you're not just wrong. Really, really wrong.
You haven't been around for the Rooftop Koreans memes have you?
You haven't seen the video with the rolling dumpster fire on Sheridan road with the guy racking the slide on his handgun in front of Kyle and all the people he came with?
We're you here for the couple who were defending their mansion behind the gated community when they came busting down the gate?
Did you see the visit on Gretchen Whitmer with all the people showing up to the capital building open carrying and the left threw a fit about them not social distancing and whining about guns?
George Zimmerman?
Where are all the pro 2A people...
I posted imgur link above breaking down the "first shot handgun guy" and the girl he was with. Search this thread for imgur and you'll find it.
Kenosha was practically his backyard. All the kids with cars goto the neighboring towns for fun. It wouldn't be any different if he were defending property in Zion, Waukegan, Winthrop Harbor, Gurnee, or Beach Park. Just because it's across state line doesn't mean he doesn't frequent Kenosha, or have lived there, know people who live there, worked there, watched a movie at the theater there, or attend church there.
The guy shot in the arm with the Milwaukee "Wu-Tang" styled shirt would have come from a farther distance to cause destruction.
If you think it's right for people to come from a larger city, Milwaukee, to destroy things in a smaller town, yet have a problem with someone coming from another nearby small town to try to deter crime you might just have a moral deficit.
Many here have advocated we start standing up to the mob, and no longer be the silenced majority. Kyle did what many of us keyboard warriors haven't done. He put himself at risk for property and life that wasn't even his.
I think I’m about there. I’m starting to believe that a warning that these riots need to stop or a militia is coming in to remove them is warranted. If they don’t stop, then send the guns in to remove them.
The governments won’t do it and it emboldens others. Soon this will be larger and will leave the cities. We are creating more anarchistic Brownshirt Marxists With each day passing.
If we do start defending, just make sure you can keep some distance between you and the mob. Watching the videos of the milita-members in Kenosha, the rioters were able to get right in their face. I'd prefer if I could justifiably shoot someone before they got close enough to touch me.
You have proof of the absolute literal opposite, why are you so fucking retarded?
Kyle successfully defended himself against these commies and the next night there was basically no violence or riots. He was a one man army and he kicked ass.
What part of that is "cant do anything"???
Kyle went there to risk himself to save the property and life of other people who were more vulnerable.
He succeeded in that task. Even though it will cost him dearly, someone innocent very well may have been murdered by that mob that night, and because of his actions the conversation in Kenosha is now forever changed.
If these mobs are not stopped it is only a matter of time until they are dragging people out of their homes and executing them in the street. History shows this over and over again.
Yep, it’s coming
What would have happened if he was just a good Samaritan without a gun being chased by a mob for trying to put out fires and prevent destruction of property?
You sound pretty pathetic.
Because you seem to think that it's a well known fact that when commies see an "AK" (not an AK) hanging off someone's chest, they go into war mode, that somehow justifies them attacking him and makes him in the wrong for even existing?
BLM faggots should just control the streets and we should do our best not to trigger their instincts to attack people with guns?
Overwhelm 911 operators? What would that accomplish other than hurt more innocent people who need help in an emergency?
The people from whom action should be demanded are these worthless Dem mayors and governors who would rather pander to rioters than protect their communities
if 911 lines are blowing up because of fires and riots and fights, then something will have to give.
Dem mayors won't be able to go against the will of the people forever, the cries for justice will have to be answered
It's like when the cable goes out, if one person reports it, might be fixed later tonight, but when 20 people report it, usually it gets sorted in an hour or two.
Everyone stays quiet so people assume everyone is on the side of BLM. 300 911 calls > 300 black fists on instagram