Trying to disarm someone with a weapon is justifiable reason for shooting them.
There's only one thing they're going to do with that weapon after they get it. They're going to shoot you. Anybody crazy enough to do that is not planning to turn it in for a gun buyback
This is the justification for the Arbery shooting too. People can argue all day that the father and son shouldn't have driven after him, but Arbery attempted to fight and disarm a man with a gun and ended up on the receiving end.
I agree, but it becomes a very muddy line of whether the suspected criminal believes they committed a criminal act. Otherwise it is just some armed dudes approaching a person, trying to detain and question them, and they really don't have to sit down and engage them.
I say this knowing someone, pre cell phones, who held a person a gunpoint who was breaking into a neighbor's house. It took time to call the police, for them to respond, etc. He was charged with kidnapping because even though the burglar was on their front porch peeping in, he hadn't yet caused any damage.
The biggest thing I remember from my CCW training is that before you intervene you better be VERY sure about what you are intervening on.
Totally agree. The justice system often does not match up with actual justice. The Left has gone to great lengths to ensure that criminals are protected.
Arbery literally ran around the truck towards the gun owner and started throwing punches. Totally justified. Thats why the original prosecutor refused to charge them.
Agreed. Any rational gun owner would do that same. I am sad that Kyle had to kill someone, but happy it was someone who should have been executed on his first go at the legal system. Proud of my boy.
He's 17, knows to try to distance himself to avoid conflict, holds onto his weapon and accurately fires from multiple positions as a last resort under EXTREME duress while being attacked by multiple assailants with intentions to harm him as they are trying to disarm him, and STILL has trigger discipline when he gets up and scans for more threats after neutralizing arm guy.
Kyle was trained properly and is most likely alive because of that training.
Yeah. We joke about it on here, but he has to live with killing two people in one night for the rest of his life. Hope he can properly contextualize it.
Right. It isn't something that anyone WANTS to live with, but perhaps he will be able to compartmentalize it with the realization they were going to end him if he didn't end them.
I've worried about that from the first night... Even more when they arrested him and took him away from his support system. I imagine that he knows he did the right thing, but it still would be hard to process that you ended 2 lives.
"Deserved" is a different thing than "justifiable reason".
To be clear, antifa guy arguably did have a justifiable reason if he feared for his life. However, he was likely an inexperienced little shit who had little idea of the operation of the weapon he was holding and knew he was in the wrong being confronted by a guy exhibiting confidence with a loaded weapon already drawn. He made the right decision and went home that night.
Trying to disarm someone with a weapon is justifiable reason for shooting them. There's only one thing they're going to do with that weapon after they get it. They're going to shoot you. Anybody crazy enough to do that is not planning to turn it in for a gun buyback
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Amaud Arbery deserved to be shot for trying to take someones weapon. Change my mind.
He sure as hell wasn't jogging.
This is the justification for the Arbery shooting too. People can argue all day that the father and son shouldn't have driven after him, but Arbery attempted to fight and disarm a man with a gun and ended up on the receiving end.
but people can gather outside Tucker Carlson's house because "this is America". Is there a law against following someone in public?
if they file a restraining order.
Yup. And they absolutely had a right to confront him. Any citizen has a right to intervene when they see a crime being committed.
I agree, but it becomes a very muddy line of whether the suspected criminal believes they committed a criminal act. Otherwise it is just some armed dudes approaching a person, trying to detain and question them, and they really don't have to sit down and engage them.
I say this knowing someone, pre cell phones, who held a person a gunpoint who was breaking into a neighbor's house. It took time to call the police, for them to respond, etc. He was charged with kidnapping because even though the burglar was on their front porch peeping in, he hadn't yet caused any damage.
The biggest thing I remember from my CCW training is that before you intervene you better be VERY sure about what you are intervening on.
Totally agree. The justice system often does not match up with actual justice. The Left has gone to great lengths to ensure that criminals are protected.
Arbery literally ran around the truck towards the gun owner and started throwing punches. Totally justified. Thats why the original prosecutor refused to charge them.
Agreed. Any rational gun owner would do that same. I am sad that Kyle had to kill someone, but happy it was someone who should have been executed on his first go at the legal system. Proud of my boy.
I'm impressed that Kyle, 17, had the presence of mind and composure to not lose his weapon in all of this.
He's 17, knows to try to distance himself to avoid conflict, holds onto his weapon and accurately fires from multiple positions as a last resort under EXTREME duress while being attacked by multiple assailants with intentions to harm him as they are trying to disarm him, and STILL has trigger discipline when he gets up and scans for more threats after neutralizing arm guy. Kyle was trained properly and is most likely alive because of that training.
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Yeah. We joke about it on here, but he has to live with killing two people in one night for the rest of his life. Hope he can properly contextualize it.
Right. It isn't something that anyone WANTS to live with, but perhaps he will be able to compartmentalize it with the realization they were going to end him if he didn't end them.
"As a consequence of your action, this entity will continue. And this entity will not."
It was a worthwhile trade, and I hope he doesn't forget that. His reaction was textbook, and he should be proud of his control and restraint.
I've worried about that from the first night... Even more when they arrested him and took him away from his support system. I imagine that he knows he did the right thing, but it still would be hard to process that you ended 2 lives.
Might be a lot of counseling needed by a lot of people in the future.
So that hero that got back the stolen rifles out of a cop's car, from ANTIFA, deserved to be shot?
They weren't antifa's rifles, so no.
To be clear, antifa guy arguably did have a justifiable reason if he feared for his life. However, he was likely an inexperienced little shit who had little idea of the operation of the weapon he was holding and knew he was in the wrong being confronted by a guy exhibiting confidence with a loaded weapon already drawn. He made the right decision and went home that night.