I remember when we made fun of Texans for being able to shoot people on sight if anyone enters their property, even if its a very vast land. But in a positive way - we always liked that concept.
Now you barely can even defend yourself against violent terrorists attacking you? That's not too different from Europe any more...
Vague laws cause unrest. People need to know exactly what they can or can’t do, and exactly what the consequences are for those actions.
We need clear laws like the one you mentioned. We also need to clearly define leading police on car chases as a deadly threat to the public, and allow immediate deadly force to stop them. I think the same argument could be made for fighting with police to resist arrest.
I don’t know when we all decided that Police should have to oil up and Greco-Roman wrestle every suspect for every arrest, but I don’t believe that’s in the job description. They should be able to politely ask you to put the cuffs on yourself, or be treated as a deadly threat. Complying with an arrest is not optional. The courts are there for your appeal.
I'm personally no fan of police. I'd much rather prefer maximized self-defence capabilities. The riots could never have taken place if people weren't completely disarmed and helpless, having to rely on the police who abandoned and betrayed them.
But sure, clear laws would be great, but there are 2 issues: Cases are often nuanced, sometimes complex - there can be many factors in play, and you want to judge people individually based on what they did. And the 2nd issue is that legislators, lawyers, courts all thrive from complexity in the law system. The harder it gets to be understood, the more people have to rely on lawyers, and the higher the scope of judge's sentences.
Police are a necessary part of the equation. We don’t live in a society of unlimited freedom. We impose our collective will on everyone through laws, and must have the ability to enforce compliance, or some wouldn’t comply.
The fact we’ve allowed non-compliance to become the rule, not the exception, is the problem. No criminal’s life is important enough that the cop should have to risk their life or injury to arrest you. It’s not worth a paper cut. You’d be surprised how quickly the resisting, running, etc would stop if they knew there would be no warnings, no tasers, no chase.
Cops exist so that the law is more than just words on paper.
A civilian shooting another civilian because they say their rights were being violated by the other is just an argument. With guns.
When you get to a judge and they say that "yeah that guy is right", it means nothing if the judge just refers to the civilian to "take them away".
Make no mistake. Cops are the pointy end of the law. It's their job to implement consequences. It's the people's job to take tyrants off the seat of power.
I've always wondered why schools don't have police officers come in and explain to kids exactly what's expected of citizens during an encounter with the police?
If the media and the left were truly woke, they’d make an effort to educate people on this. It isn’t like cops are just walking up and executing people (the reverse actually happens to some cops). It is ALWAYS the result of a struggle or unpredictable actions by the deceased.
Clown Laws are vague laws. This was expected, after all the clown shit that was going on. Us Conservatives, normal people, like good concrete laws to follow and teach our kids. Laws are originally meant and designed to help everyone involved, it's original purpose before corrupt infestation. But when it's clown show, anything goes, this person is in charge, now this person is in charge - it was only inevitable to collapse. :/ Imo*
If you SHOOT AT or SHOOT someone on your property you do not want on your property either MAIMING OR KILLING THEM, and they are either:
On Illegal Drugs
Have had a FELONY conviction within the last 10 years
A Current Fugitive from the Law.
Are on probation for a Felony or VIOLENT misdemeanor.
Or are Currently in the act of committing a violent crime ( sex assault included) or a property crime such a theft/burglary/armed robbery or crime against a minor.
THERE SHALL BE NO CHARGES AGAINST THE LANDOWNER.
PERIOD!!!
CASE FUCKING CLOSED!!!
If they are a FUGITIVE, the community leader should be FORCED TO GIVE YOU A FUCKING MEDAL TOO!
FUCKIN' PERIOD!
ONLY ONE CAVEAT -
IF YOU MISS THEM....
IT IS A 25 dollar FINE PER SHOT! Or you have to take a training course at a gun range!
It's because we lost our freedom and are domesticated. Those that domesticate animals usually are selected for their docile nature or at least can be controlled. Strong willed and "problematic" animals are discarded. The ruling class is "domesticating" people. They will try and discard Kyle and make him an example so the rest of the sheep fall in line.
I asked elsewhere in this thread but does anyone know how one might get involved in advocating for Kyle or helping collect defense funds, or anything else that can be done? Because I'd love to help in anyway possible as this story has finally pushed me to the edge of wanting to get out there and support Kyle, people like him, my country & my president... but I'm just young adult that doesn't really know where to start despite the drive and conviction to :/
Remember, self defense only applies inside your home as you’re already being beaten. You must use a nearby object as an improvised weapon because purchasing a weapon for home defense is premeditation.
If this isn't self-defense, then the concept no longer exists. We must band together behind him for all our freedoms.
I remember when we made fun of Texans for being able to shoot people on sight if anyone enters their property, even if its a very vast land. But in a positive way - we always liked that concept.
Now you barely can even defend yourself against violent terrorists attacking you? That's not too different from Europe any more...
Vague laws cause unrest. People need to know exactly what they can or can’t do, and exactly what the consequences are for those actions.
We need clear laws like the one you mentioned. We also need to clearly define leading police on car chases as a deadly threat to the public, and allow immediate deadly force to stop them. I think the same argument could be made for fighting with police to resist arrest.
I don’t know when we all decided that Police should have to oil up and Greco-Roman wrestle every suspect for every arrest, but I don’t believe that’s in the job description. They should be able to politely ask you to put the cuffs on yourself, or be treated as a deadly threat. Complying with an arrest is not optional. The courts are there for your appeal.
I'm personally no fan of police. I'd much rather prefer maximized self-defence capabilities. The riots could never have taken place if people weren't completely disarmed and helpless, having to rely on the police who abandoned and betrayed them.
But sure, clear laws would be great, but there are 2 issues: Cases are often nuanced, sometimes complex - there can be many factors in play, and you want to judge people individually based on what they did. And the 2nd issue is that legislators, lawyers, courts all thrive from complexity in the law system. The harder it gets to be understood, the more people have to rely on lawyers, and the higher the scope of judge's sentences.
Police are a necessary part of the equation. We don’t live in a society of unlimited freedom. We impose our collective will on everyone through laws, and must have the ability to enforce compliance, or some wouldn’t comply.
The fact we’ve allowed non-compliance to become the rule, not the exception, is the problem. No criminal’s life is important enough that the cop should have to risk their life or injury to arrest you. It’s not worth a paper cut. You’d be surprised how quickly the resisting, running, etc would stop if they knew there would be no warnings, no tasers, no chase.
Cops exist so that the law is more than just words on paper.
A civilian shooting another civilian because they say their rights were being violated by the other is just an argument. With guns.
When you get to a judge and they say that "yeah that guy is right", it means nothing if the judge just refers to the civilian to "take them away".
Make no mistake. Cops are the pointy end of the law. It's their job to implement consequences. It's the people's job to take tyrants off the seat of power.
I've always wondered why schools don't have police officers come in and explain to kids exactly what's expected of citizens during an encounter with the police?
Think about who runs the schools.
The Dems profit from racial unrest and from law enforcement not being able to do their jobs safely and effectively.
If the media and the left were truly woke, they’d make an effort to educate people on this. It isn’t like cops are just walking up and executing people (the reverse actually happens to some cops). It is ALWAYS the result of a struggle or unpredictable actions by the deceased.
Clown Laws are vague laws. This was expected, after all the clown shit that was going on. Us Conservatives, normal people, like good concrete laws to follow and teach our kids. Laws are originally meant and designed to help everyone involved, it's original purpose before corrupt infestation. But when it's clown show, anything goes, this person is in charge, now this person is in charge - it was only inevitable to collapse. :/ Imo*
If you SHOOT AT or SHOOT someone on your property you do not want on your property either MAIMING OR KILLING THEM, and they are either:
On Illegal Drugs
Have had a FELONY conviction within the last 10 years
A Current Fugitive from the Law.
Are on probation for a Felony or VIOLENT misdemeanor.
Or are Currently in the act of committing a violent crime ( sex assault included) or a property crime such a theft/burglary/armed robbery or crime against a minor.
THERE SHALL BE NO CHARGES AGAINST THE LANDOWNER.
PERIOD!!!
CASE FUCKING CLOSED!!!
If they are a FUGITIVE, the community leader should be FORCED TO GIVE YOU A FUCKING MEDAL TOO!
FUCKIN' PERIOD!
ONLY ONE CAVEAT -
IF YOU MISS THEM....
IT IS A 25 dollar FINE PER SHOT! Or you have to take a training course at a gun range!
It should be called:
"SUICIDE BY ARMED LANDOWNER"
It's because we lost our freedom and are domesticated. Those that domesticate animals usually are selected for their docile nature or at least can be controlled. Strong willed and "problematic" animals are discarded. The ruling class is "domesticating" people. They will try and discard Kyle and make him an example so the rest of the sheep fall in line.
This is SO fucking true, all my city co-workers are such docile domestic livestock, guess what party they vote for....
Canada is the weak link in North America
I'm offensive and I find that very Canadian.
(Sorry btw, cheers from The North)
Not true. We can only shoot them for refusing to leave. To not give them a running chance is unsportsmanlike.
I asked elsewhere in this thread but does anyone know how one might get involved in advocating for Kyle or helping collect defense funds, or anything else that can be done? Because I'd love to help in anyway possible as this story has finally pushed me to the edge of wanting to get out there and support Kyle, people like him, my country & my president... but I'm just young adult that doesn't really know where to start despite the drive and conviction to :/
https://fightback.law/
where do I sign up? I'm willing to do or donate where I can
Remember, self defense only applies inside your home as you’re already being beaten. You must use a nearby object as an improvised weapon because purchasing a weapon for home defense is premeditation.