He's saying natural borns take it for granted. Do you think the people performing BLM (burn/loot/murder-ing) or even the armchair "sigh capitalism has failed" types feel blessed to be American citizens or do you think they take it for granted?
Didn't have to escape some hell hole, just universal dumb luck. He could have phrased it better and he elaborates on it. If you read further.
That said, there definitely are some immigrants that seem very much genuinely good and right (Andy Ngo seems very, very much like one of them, his bravery and work is incredible), and they also greatly genuinely enrich the country. And in certain cases, fleeing and running can at least be argued to be the right and moral decision. But there may easily be much, much, much fewer of them than as such, especially with the absolute extreme amounts of deception, manipulation, subversion, etc. etc. etc. And instead of fleeing, it would be better if the genuinely good people can be helped, and robust, reliable, genuine effective, etc. etc. etc. systems can be set up to help spread non-completely-horrible systems, or at least prevent or slow the spread of horrifyingly evil fundamentally all-destroying sets of systems.
For instance, a non-communist unified China seems like it would be a great boon to the world, instead of the absolute nightmare that it is currently, for ethnic Chinese and everyone else.
Communism and marxism, and the people behind them that designed and spread them, are still very much going strong, and they do not intend to change their ways, despite the consequences to everyone (themselves included). If the USA falls, I am not certain there is much hope anywhere. But the goal should not only be to help save the USA and enable it to not just survive but also succeed and prosper even more, but also at least give a chance to countries the world over to likewise seek success. As far as I can see, the danger of communism is a danger to our species, and communists are not just a threat to everyone else, but themselves as well.......
It's hard to say who is 'good' or 'bad' based on surname, I appreciate Andy Ngo's work and he's got balls of steel.
From my readings of books on Marxism, Communism, these systems are extreme forms of collectivism that want to swap or slingshot the poor or rabble-rousers into the 1%. They're infected with power and greed and we have seen revolutionaries get the bullet or the gulag. Communism is mafia-style government.
Worth a note while I was in school we were taught all about the Holocaust. Over and over. Not much was said about the victims of Communism or even the Jacobins. 6 million vs 300+ million dead and rising every day? There is no way to compare.
A non-communist China seems nice, China has a historical record for being in civil wars / at war with itself between different factions. That would benefit the world but not be so great for those in China.
I never stated much about anyone fleeing, I was trying to explain the original point. Being born in the United States, in universe terms, is like hitting the lottery. Not a guaranteed win because life is hard enough even in the greatest nation on Earth. So one might say the others who aren't so lucky are cursed.
It's hard to say who is 'good' or 'bad' based on surname, [...]
Why do you mention surnames?
6 million vs 300+ million dead and rising every day? There is no way to compare.
I haven't heard the 300+ million number, though it might be me that is ignorant or missing something. Do you have any hints reg. this number?
That would benefit the world but not be so great for those in China.
How would a non-communist China not be great for China? Or am I misreading your comment? Didn't the communists genocide tens of millions of ethnic Chinese in China?
I never stated much about anyone fleeing, I was trying to explain the original point.
Yet you did defend the original comment in some ways, and you did also write:
He's saying natural borns take it for granted. [...]
Actual immigrants are more american than most native born people I have met.
among other things.
Being born in the United States, in universe terms, is like hitting the lottery. Not a guaranteed win because life is hard enough even in the greatest nation on Earth. So one might say the others who aren't so lucky are cursed.
And this again seems at odds with what I wrote in https://thedonald.win/p/GvYSpzwD/x/c/16ZX3KLF44 . The USA did not come out of nowhere or by chance. And the descendants of those that fought, strove, worked, sacrificed, etc. etc. etc. again were not random people just coming into existence, but indeed descendants of those that fought, strove, worked, sacrificed, etc. etc. etc.
So one might say the others who aren't so lucky are cursed.
But why did they not turn their home of origin into a non-hell-hole? Why glorify them running away from the problems that exists where they come from? Why not expect and require of people to clean up their own messes? Why somehow turn running from your problems into a positive?
And if people are not penalized for running and fleeing from the messes they caused and are part of, but instead spread to the countries that aren't completely broken, will the whole world not end up turning into the same messes?
And how many times do they merely pretend to be for the fundamental sets of systems that created all that they seek to benefit from? Or not even pretend and just openly seek wealth, without sacrificing and fighting for what it took? How many welfare immigrants are there?
[...] natural borns take it for granted [...] just universal dumb luck [...]
What kind of precedent does it set if people that belong and come from certain very successful sets of systems are not allowed to take pride in those systems or benefit from them? If they have been tested and trialled, and their ancestors self-sacrificed and changed and fought and strove to accomplish all that, and they succeeded? If a given group succeeds, what precedent does it set if their descendants should not likewise benefit from their successes?
Do you know any "actual immigrants?" That's why you're being downvoted. Their political views are overwhelmingly socialist democrat and against American working class values. Immigrants are a net loss for our country.
You stopped reading because you're wrong. The fact that there are non-whites that want to save the US and whites who are down with the ANTIFA/BLM narrative completely refute your world view.
stopped reading there.
He's saying natural borns take it for granted. Do you think the people performing BLM (burn/loot/murder-ing) or even the armchair "sigh capitalism has failed" types feel blessed to be American citizens or do you think they take it for granted?
Didn't have to escape some hell hole, just universal dumb luck. He could have phrased it better and he elaborates on it. If you read further.
plz remove buttplug
(continuing https://thedonald.win/p/GvYSpzwD/x/c/16ZX3KLF44 ):
That said, there definitely are some immigrants that seem very much genuinely good and right (Andy Ngo seems very, very much like one of them, his bravery and work is incredible), and they also greatly genuinely enrich the country. And in certain cases, fleeing and running can at least be argued to be the right and moral decision. But there may easily be much, much, much fewer of them than as such, especially with the absolute extreme amounts of deception, manipulation, subversion, etc. etc. etc. And instead of fleeing, it would be better if the genuinely good people can be helped, and robust, reliable, genuine effective, etc. etc. etc. systems can be set up to help spread non-completely-horrible systems, or at least prevent or slow the spread of horrifyingly evil fundamentally all-destroying sets of systems.
For instance, a non-communist unified China seems like it would be a great boon to the world, instead of the absolute nightmare that it is currently, for ethnic Chinese and everyone else.
Communism and marxism, and the people behind them that designed and spread them, are still very much going strong, and they do not intend to change their ways, despite the consequences to everyone (themselves included). If the USA falls, I am not certain there is much hope anywhere. But the goal should not only be to help save the USA and enable it to not just survive but also succeed and prosper even more, but also at least give a chance to countries the world over to likewise seek success. As far as I can see, the danger of communism is a danger to our species, and communists are not just a threat to everyone else, but themselves as well.......
It's hard to say who is 'good' or 'bad' based on surname, I appreciate Andy Ngo's work and he's got balls of steel.
From my readings of books on Marxism, Communism, these systems are extreme forms of collectivism that want to swap or slingshot the poor or rabble-rousers into the 1%. They're infected with power and greed and we have seen revolutionaries get the bullet or the gulag. Communism is mafia-style government.
Worth a note while I was in school we were taught all about the Holocaust. Over and over. Not much was said about the victims of Communism or even the Jacobins. 6 million vs 300+ million dead and rising every day? There is no way to compare.
A non-communist China seems nice, China has a historical record for being in civil wars / at war with itself between different factions. That would benefit the world but not be so great for those in China.
I never stated much about anyone fleeing, I was trying to explain the original point. Being born in the United States, in universe terms, is like hitting the lottery. Not a guaranteed win because life is hard enough even in the greatest nation on Earth. So one might say the others who aren't so lucky are cursed.
Why do you mention surnames?
I haven't heard the 300+ million number, though it might be me that is ignorant or missing something. Do you have any hints reg. this number?
How would a non-communist China not be great for China? Or am I misreading your comment? Didn't the communists genocide tens of millions of ethnic Chinese in China?
Yet you did defend the original comment in some ways, and you did also write:
which you then in another comment write something that seems contradictory to: https://thedonald.win/p/GvYSpzwD/x/c/16a9uyrkXf . And the original comment wrote ( https://thedonald.win/p/GvYSpzwD/x/c/16ZWybQqrD ):
among other things.
And this again seems at odds with what I wrote in https://thedonald.win/p/GvYSpzwD/x/c/16ZX3KLF44 . The USA did not come out of nowhere or by chance. And the descendants of those that fought, strove, worked, sacrificed, etc. etc. etc. again were not random people just coming into existence, but indeed descendants of those that fought, strove, worked, sacrificed, etc. etc. etc.
Or they have an opportunity and responsibility as such to fix and improve things where they are, as I argue in https://thedonald.win/p/GvYSpzwD/x/c/16ZX3KLF44 .
But why did they not turn their home of origin into a non-hell-hole? Why glorify them running away from the problems that exists where they come from? Why not expect and require of people to clean up their own messes? Why somehow turn running from your problems into a positive?
And if people are not penalized for running and fleeing from the messes they caused and are part of, but instead spread to the countries that aren't completely broken, will the whole world not end up turning into the same messes?
And how many times do they merely pretend to be for the fundamental sets of systems that created all that they seek to benefit from? Or not even pretend and just openly seek wealth, without sacrificing and fighting for what it took? How many welfare immigrants are there?
What kind of precedent does it set if people that belong and come from certain very successful sets of systems are not allowed to take pride in those systems or benefit from them? If they have been tested and trialled, and their ancestors self-sacrificed and changed and fought and strove to accomplish all that, and they succeeded? If a given group succeeds, what precedent does it set if their descendants should not likewise benefit from their successes?
I dunno. I was just clarifying for someone who had ze buttlplug and wanted to be rude.
Americans have every right to be proud and if you come here, you have to do it legally and integrate. shrugs
From your previous comment:
That does not really seem consistent with your comment here.
I'm good. anybody who leads with that bullshit is worth ignoring.
Then you miss the whole point of what I'm saying. Read the whole comment, stop being a fucking retard.
Do you know any "actual immigrants?" That's why you're being downvoted. Their political views are overwhelmingly socialist democrat and against American working class values. Immigrants are a net loss for our country.
I'm good.
You stopped reading because you're wrong. The fact that there are non-whites that want to save the US and whites who are down with the ANTIFA/BLM narrative completely refute your world view.
gay
Deported for self-promotion.