I kinda see both sides, and part of the problem is that as a society, there’s too many people out there that run to daddy government to solve their dispute and involve too much legal process when 2 people get in a punch up.
I mean, damn, even technically poking someone in the shoulder is considered assault for gods sake. I posit at least part of the reason these shrieking, entitled, arrogant, commie kiddos have become so emboldened is that nobody has ever given them an ass whuppin when they last tried their nonsense.
Why is this not done anymore? Because you so as much as throw water on the nearest one and the police arrest you for “assault”.
Be it “protesting”, waking up the dead in quiet neighbourhoods in the middle of the night (wake up mutha Fukka wake up!), several dozen fist raised white kids looming over 1 lone female diner on a patio, trump flag wavers getting their stand dragged off by 90 pound teenage girls, dindus walking into stores to calmly steal, commies going into restaurants to chant at diners etc.
Since today is so litigation obsessed, what you end up with is 2 lines of groups, loser commies on one side, normal patriots on the other, and it decends into a sad pushing/shoving match, with lots of cop out crap like pepper spray on both sides.
When punches start to get thrown, cops often intervene, make arrests on both sides before the patriots get the upper hand, and the commies don’t learn their lesson. AGAIN.
There was a time in the western world, where if any of this was tried, residents of a woken up neighbourhood would give the commie crowd a beat down they wouldn’t forget, the restaurant manager would be shoving them out, and patriots could both give and receive punches (and win) but most importantly, the police would either not really get involved unless serious, or not bother with charging anyone because you know lessons would be learned.
What I’m saying is this: if at least HALF of these commie LARPers had got a good lickin’ in the early days of the riots in Portland by fed up citizens (and all other rioting cities) and that no matter how many times the kids came out to riot, there was a greater amount of fed up citizens just wanting a quiet no noise night - giving out ANOTHER ass whuppin, I’m betting the Portland riots would dry up in less than a week.
The shooting by Kyle is a natural evolution of the problem not being solved naturally by neighbourhood ass kicking earlier. The hard left were not given or shown any red lines to cross. So they just get cockier and cockier until BLAM.
It shouldn’t have come to this. The 3 that got shot had their butts kicked, repeatedly ....UNTIL it got through their dumb heads, we may not be in this situation today.
If that “Shoot me Ni&&A” cretin got blasted in the face for being annoying, he might have had some sense knocked into him and been alive today.
But the Marxists ignored our warnings. They kept poking the bear.... poke...poke...poke. Well wahhh wahh wahh. The rattlesnake gave you plenty chances to back down. You’re playing with the big boys now commies. We have all the guns. Are you SURE you want to do this?
I don't have time to write a detailed reply, but suffice to say that I do agree with you.
The pot is boiling over. I'm not suggesting that no violence is the only answer. Violence is going to come, one way or the other, and it is going to get uglier as time goes on. I'm expecting the left to escalate and start attacking/killing innocent people or resorting to terrorist acts. It's just a matter of time.
The advantage in this case, though, is that it makes the position of the political left and the talking heads significantly more indefensible in the eyes of the general public. Maybe this is what we need for a reset.
The crux of my point is that I really don't want to see a civil war. I'm afraid we may already be well along that road to a point where it's irreversible. And, if we are, then I pray we do it right this time and eliminate the enemies who detest the US and the Constitution for good. But I really, really, really, really don't want us to go down that road, because the global political dynamics are such that I don't think we appreciate the consequences such a war might bring. u/Gadsden, in another reply to me, alludes to this point rather astutely, and I share his fears.
What may be necessary is for the pot to boil over just enough to teach the communists a lesson but not so much that we escalate into a full blown shooting war. Anyone wanting for the latter is a fool.
I think this outcome is much more likely. Rather than a large scale conflict, it seems more plausible that we'll reach a breaking point where something of this sort happens. Short, fast, and to the point.
Then it's over.
Rather than a protracted war that destroys infrastructure, something that's over quickly would serve to both a) make a point that their ilk will not be suffered any longer and b) that anyone who is aiding them is an enemy of the protectors of the Constitution.
It's coming.
I just hope that it'll be more along the lines of what you've entertained here. If so, then we may have a partial reset that's just enough to get us back to a point where wanton violence in the streets over criminals being shot by police is quickly forgotten.
Of course, I'm not entirely confident this will be true. I'm a Christian. I know how the story ends. It will get uglier than anyone could imagine. It's just a question of when.
Indeed. I posit as the doxxing of ordinary policemen and policewomen and other law enforcement continues, harrassment at homes etc, surely it's only natural that the local police department will take on an increasingly "fuck it" attitude and turn a blind eye to localised militias and or neighbourhood watch groups.
Nobody can seriously tell me that the PPD, CPD, APD, SFPD Seattle PD, LAPD have not, more often than not 'accidentally' not charged a few patriot citizens and releasing them around the corner after arrest, turned a blind eye to the commies getting their butt kicked for a while before stepping in etc.
Why? Surely they must know that patriots are as sick of the commie morons as they are. They are still human. They are going to at least subconciously side with the group where they know arent going to be stalking their houses at night or bricking their windows.
For this 'Tribal justice' to have full effectiveness, the police really should let the opposing lines scrap it out. The patriots will win, if given enough chance to if a local demonstration fight breaks out. The police know they cant win. If they step in, the commies throw bricks and poop at them, and risk injury, and also get demonised in the press.cSo....an appeal to police up and down the country. Let US do the job, let US get the first few licks in, if you give the patriot demos a bit of time, they will do more discouragement and life lessons to the commie kiddos than you are ever able to get.
Sure, step in if serious weapons are brought out, but for a fist fight? I THINK WE GOT IT FAM.
I kinda see both sides, and part of the problem is that as a society, there’s too many people out there that run to daddy government to solve their dispute and involve too much legal process when 2 people get in a punch up.
I mean, damn, even technically poking someone in the shoulder is considered assault for gods sake. I posit at least part of the reason these shrieking, entitled, arrogant, commie kiddos have become so emboldened is that nobody has ever given them an ass whuppin when they last tried their nonsense.
Why is this not done anymore? Because you so as much as throw water on the nearest one and the police arrest you for “assault”.
Be it “protesting”, waking up the dead in quiet neighbourhoods in the middle of the night (wake up mutha Fukka wake up!), several dozen fist raised white kids looming over 1 lone female diner on a patio, trump flag wavers getting their stand dragged off by 90 pound teenage girls, dindus walking into stores to calmly steal, commies going into restaurants to chant at diners etc.
Since today is so litigation obsessed, what you end up with is 2 lines of groups, loser commies on one side, normal patriots on the other, and it decends into a sad pushing/shoving match, with lots of cop out crap like pepper spray on both sides.
When punches start to get thrown, cops often intervene, make arrests on both sides before the patriots get the upper hand, and the commies don’t learn their lesson. AGAIN.
There was a time in the western world, where if any of this was tried, residents of a woken up neighbourhood would give the commie crowd a beat down they wouldn’t forget, the restaurant manager would be shoving them out, and patriots could both give and receive punches (and win) but most importantly, the police would either not really get involved unless serious, or not bother with charging anyone because you know lessons would be learned.
What I’m saying is this: if at least HALF of these commie LARPers had got a good lickin’ in the early days of the riots in Portland by fed up citizens (and all other rioting cities) and that no matter how many times the kids came out to riot, there was a greater amount of fed up citizens just wanting a quiet no noise night - giving out ANOTHER ass whuppin, I’m betting the Portland riots would dry up in less than a week.
The shooting by Kyle is a natural evolution of the problem not being solved naturally by neighbourhood ass kicking earlier. The hard left were not given or shown any red lines to cross. So they just get cockier and cockier until BLAM.
It shouldn’t have come to this. The 3 that got shot had their butts kicked, repeatedly ....UNTIL it got through their dumb heads, we may not be in this situation today.
If that “Shoot me Ni&&A” cretin got blasted in the face for being annoying, he might have had some sense knocked into him and been alive today.
But the Marxists ignored our warnings. They kept poking the bear.... poke...poke...poke. Well wahhh wahh wahh. The rattlesnake gave you plenty chances to back down. You’re playing with the big boys now commies. We have all the guns. Are you SURE you want to do this?
I don't have time to write a detailed reply, but suffice to say that I do agree with you.
The pot is boiling over. I'm not suggesting that no violence is the only answer. Violence is going to come, one way or the other, and it is going to get uglier as time goes on. I'm expecting the left to escalate and start attacking/killing innocent people or resorting to terrorist acts. It's just a matter of time.
The advantage in this case, though, is that it makes the position of the political left and the talking heads significantly more indefensible in the eyes of the general public. Maybe this is what we need for a reset.
The crux of my point is that I really don't want to see a civil war. I'm afraid we may already be well along that road to a point where it's irreversible. And, if we are, then I pray we do it right this time and eliminate the enemies who detest the US and the Constitution for good. But I really, really, really, really don't want us to go down that road, because the global political dynamics are such that I don't think we appreciate the consequences such a war might bring. u/Gadsden, in another reply to me, alludes to this point rather astutely, and I share his fears.
What may be necessary is for the pot to boil over just enough to teach the communists a lesson but not so much that we escalate into a full blown shooting war. Anyone wanting for the latter is a fool.
The left has already been killing innocent people. Just for being white.
This started on 5/26, Civil War. We can eliminate all Marxists in one night. Then we just have to hunt down high value targets.
I think this outcome is much more likely. Rather than a large scale conflict, it seems more plausible that we'll reach a breaking point where something of this sort happens. Short, fast, and to the point.
Then it's over.
Rather than a protracted war that destroys infrastructure, something that's over quickly would serve to both a) make a point that their ilk will not be suffered any longer and b) that anyone who is aiding them is an enemy of the protectors of the Constitution.
It's coming.
I just hope that it'll be more along the lines of what you've entertained here. If so, then we may have a partial reset that's just enough to get us back to a point where wanton violence in the streets over criminals being shot by police is quickly forgotten.
Of course, I'm not entirely confident this will be true. I'm a Christian. I know how the story ends. It will get uglier than anyone could imagine. It's just a question of when.
Indeed. I posit as the doxxing of ordinary policemen and policewomen and other law enforcement continues, harrassment at homes etc, surely it's only natural that the local police department will take on an increasingly "fuck it" attitude and turn a blind eye to localised militias and or neighbourhood watch groups.
Nobody can seriously tell me that the PPD, CPD, APD, SFPD Seattle PD, LAPD have not, more often than not 'accidentally' not charged a few patriot citizens and releasing them around the corner after arrest, turned a blind eye to the commies getting their butt kicked for a while before stepping in etc.
Why? Surely they must know that patriots are as sick of the commie morons as they are. They are still human. They are going to at least subconciously side with the group where they know arent going to be stalking their houses at night or bricking their windows.
For this 'Tribal justice' to have full effectiveness, the police really should let the opposing lines scrap it out. The patriots will win, if given enough chance to if a local demonstration fight breaks out. The police know they cant win. If they step in, the commies throw bricks and poop at them, and risk injury, and also get demonised in the press.cSo....an appeal to police up and down the country. Let US do the job, let US get the first few licks in, if you give the patriot demos a bit of time, they will do more discouragement and life lessons to the commie kiddos than you are ever able to get.
Sure, step in if serious weapons are brought out, but for a fist fight? I THINK WE GOT IT FAM.