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I'm still a little shocked and disappointed there are so many here who don't know that. That's like basic high school Civics 101 shit. I know public schooling has deliberately held actual civics knowledge from many of us but c'mon, the information is out there. You owe it to yourself to learn this sort of thing.
Besides the fact Trump doesn't have the authority to pardon state charges. This needs to play out. Kyle being acquitted helps everyone defending themselves. A pardon would only help Kyle.
The news cycle moves quickly. In a week or two something else will happen and the news will forget about Kyle. I hope the DA drops it at that point, it's not only a DA's job to prosecute people, but also to decide which cases are NOT worth prosecuting.
It's a bit of wishful thinking and a bit of intuition but I just don't see this making it to trial.
Fuck that. first off these are State crimes are not federal, and 2nd off, to accept a pardon you have to admit guilt.... which means he would have to admit to being a murderer on paper.......
I think you not accounting for the speed of the news cycle. Once this is out of the news cycle hopefully the DA can just drop it without announcement. The DA isin't stupid, he knows there's no case here and DA's don't like to loose, so they generally don't perseu poisoned cases.
I also agree with the fact Kyle had to be charged, mostly to placate the mob.
Another thing we agree on is that a jury of 12 will never find Kyle guilty, the evidence was so damming the narrative against him turned in like 4hrs. I've never seen the public flip around so quick.
No, we do not want a pardon for Kyle (not sure trump could even?)
We want a not guilty verdict as a precedent that the left cannot criminalize the use of a fire arm, or the action of self-defense, since they failed in criminalizing the fire arm itself.
That or acquittal, I'm not a Attorney so I've no ideal which is more legally powerful, but we want the legally powerful outcome.
Colion Noir's breakdown from a legal PoV (he's a lawyer for those who aren't aware) based on currently available video is pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSU9ZvnudFE
He won't need to hopefully. Once Elite Kyle leaves the news cycle the charges will probably be dropped without announcement. There's just no case and any prosecutor who thinks there is one is incompetent. I understand them charging him, it's the politically savvy thing to do, but I don't see this making it to trial.
Unless it's one of those weird jurisdictions where you don't need a unanimous verdict, then only one juror among a dozen needs to believe in his innocence.
Let the law play its course. Knee jerk screams for justice is something retarded leftists do. What do we know about the DA prosecuting the case? Are they a Soros muppet?
*edit
Michael D. Graveley is the DA but I don't know how to look up his campaign finances. That's a matter of public record, right?
I believe Trump can only pardon for federal crimes.
I'm still a little shocked and disappointed there are so many here who don't know that. That's like basic high school Civics 101 shit. I know public schooling has deliberately held actual civics knowledge from many of us but c'mon, the information is out there. You owe it to yourself to learn this sort of thing.
This is true.
There’s also the false info front to fight (say that three times fast). In this case, the lie that Kyle crossed state lines with a gun.
Or that he needs a pardon at all
Yep.
Besides the fact Trump doesn't have the authority to pardon state charges. This needs to play out. Kyle being acquitted helps everyone defending themselves. A pardon would only help Kyle.
yeah but that lazy, mindless karma from just grovellingly pointing towards the upvote button...
No problem...if it comes down to it, when Trump's term has ended in D.C., he can move to Wisconsin, run for governor, and pardon away.
He can’t. People should stop posting about pardons and start posting about dropping charges. These charges are purely political
The news cycle moves quickly. In a week or two something else will happen and the news will forget about Kyle. I hope the DA drops it at that point, it's not only a DA's job to prosecute people, but also to decide which cases are NOT worth prosecuting.
It's a bit of wishful thinking and a bit of intuition but I just don't see this making it to trial.
Fuck that. first off these are State crimes are not federal, and 2nd off, to accept a pardon you have to admit guilt.... which means he would have to admit to being a murderer on paper.......
Calm down people. This will be a long process.
It will go to trial. I do not think a jury of 12 will convict him. The trial process will take time and will happen long after the November election.
If he does get convicted and Trump wins, then he may be pardoned down the road.
I feel bad for the kid. But the DA is as politician and is thinking if I do not put him on trial it will be a red flag for more riots & burning.
I think you not accounting for the speed of the news cycle. Once this is out of the news cycle hopefully the DA can just drop it without announcement. The DA isin't stupid, he knows there's no case here and DA's don't like to loose, so they generally don't perseu poisoned cases.
I also agree with the fact Kyle had to be charged, mostly to placate the mob.
Another thing we agree on is that a jury of 12 will never find Kyle guilty, the evidence was so damming the narrative against him turned in like 4hrs. I've never seen the public flip around so quick.
While I appreciate the patriotism on here, I really am saddened by the lack of civics taught in our schools now.
The President can only pardon federal crimes.
Let him beat it in court.
Trump can’t. I upvoted. But he can’t.
No, we do not want a pardon for Kyle (not sure trump could even?)
We want a not guilty verdict as a precedent that the left cannot criminalize the use of a fire arm, or the action of self-defense, since they failed in criminalizing the fire arm itself.
That or acquittal, I'm not a Attorney so I've no ideal which is more legally powerful, but we want the legally powerful outcome.
Nope let it play out and lets make Kyle rich like Sandman
Colion Noir's breakdown from a legal PoV (he's a lawyer for those who aren't aware) based on currently available video is pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSU9ZvnudFE
Great video, as usual
How do you "pardon" a non-crime?
No way
Let him sue
you can only pardon people who are guilty
He's gotta be guilty of something. Let's hopes he gets vindicated
He won't need a pardon.
Charges are going to be dropped, and he's going to sue a bunch of people for defamation.
He does niot need a pardon, he did nothing wrong.
No need. No chance of being convicted
Pardon for what. Kyle did nothing wrong
that requires conviction t wont happen
After the election.
If justice prevails he wont need any
He won't need to hopefully. Once Elite Kyle leaves the news cycle the charges will probably be dropped without announcement. There's just no case and any prosecutor who thinks there is one is incompetent. I understand them charging him, it's the politically savvy thing to do, but I don't see this making it to trial.
State prosecution. Whilst I upvote for the sentiment the president has no authority over this kid's unjust prosecution.
Don't know about you guys but I want to get a t shirt that color and wear it on Election Day.
Unless it's one of those weird jurisdictions where you don't need a unanimous verdict, then only one juror among a dozen needs to believe in his innocence.
There are no crimes to pardon.
Don't, otherwise the next person defending themselves will get screwed, since it implicitly implies Kyle's guilty. We have done NOTHING WRONG.
Trump shouldn't have to, the clarity of the evidence of this being self defense is overwhelming.
NO Pardon. He shouldn't be charged period.
We need to make sure the justice system isn't so fucked up, that Kyle needs to be Pardoned by the Potus.
Let the law play its course. Knee jerk screams for justice is something retarded leftists do. What do we know about the DA prosecuting the case? Are they a Soros muppet?
*edit
Michael D. Graveley is the DA but I don't know how to look up his campaign finances. That's a matter of public record, right?
No can do but I wouldn't want a pardon anyway. I want to see charges thrown out or failing that, seeing Kyle acquitted.
He won’t need it
Pardon implies he did wrong. He simply defended himself.