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posted ago by BonafideTarzan ago by BonafideTarzan +2332 / -0

is the only way to prevent "paid for" politicians. If the president is limited, so should be everyone else.

How do we make that happen? No politician would vote for it.

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ByeByeProgs 44 points ago +46 / -2

Term limits say we the people are too dumb to vote out a lifetime politician. But maybe we are too dumb to vote them out and term limits might be necessary. But even that won’t stop big government. Never forget it’s K Street lobbyists that have been creating legislation since the 90s. I’ll take a lifetime politician that writes their own bills over an endless supply of puppets for K Street. We need to demand our elected officials are writing legislation that solely benefits their constituents.

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xbeefystux 28 points ago +28 / -0

Actually the problem you are trying to solve is our education problems. People just aren't educated enough on their rights, the constitution, history, and how to be an active voter at all levels of government. They literally don't teach you this stuff in public schools anymore. The Republic that we wish to save from the commies hinges on the public being well educated and informed. Term limits just means the criminals have to get in government and commit crimes in a shorter period of time. If we were upset with a government official we just engage impeachment. Term limits don't solve the issues you think it does

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ColoradoTrumper45 8 points ago +8 / -0

Term limits don't solve the issues you think it does.

Thank you. Term limits are the reason we had George H Bush, and why we only get Trump for 8 years.

If applied to Congress, all we would do is create an unelected beaurocratic class of congressional staffers. Because that is where the institutional memory and knowledge would be retained.

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Food4thought 3 points ago +3 / -0

This isn't the Executive. The Congress is a more representative body that can provide it's own checks and balances more effectively. Any new representative is going to bring new energy into the office and remove opposition in their own ranks. In effect, it might do more to actually drain the swamp than not.

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ColoradoTrumper45 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Swamp isn't caused by length of exposure time.

It is caused by the corrupting influence of power. Unaccountable power is the general source of the problem.

Installing term limits merely shifts the knowledge of how and who to work with into the unaccountable staffers and lobbyists further reducing the already limited amount of accountability we still have.

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HonestBobbin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep. I would prefer no individual shall claim government funded paychecks for more than 16 years of their life.

Granted this still allows for interns & deep state to operate.

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mellestal 2 points ago +2 / -0

I do think term limits can be acceptable but they're not going to be short. I'm thinking like 30-ish years as a rep/senator combined (Federally). Throw on 8 years as a president and you're still shy of some of the career politicians.

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K-Harbour 1 point ago +1 / -0

The govt employees and staff first have to be term limited.

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Slapstick86 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also news needs to be real journalism not propoganda. Because even the educated can be misled.

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Thistriggersthelibs 8 points ago +8 / -0

Buying new politicians ever other year gets pretty expensive after a while.

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Food4thought 1 point ago +1 / -0

Especially when they're not running in their final term and they're more concerned about their legacy.

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ThomasJefferson1776 8 points ago +8 / -0

100%. I don't think term limits are the issue. I think it's the mass lobbying that happens.

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Food4thought 1 point ago +1 / -0

Absolutely. That's why I would also advocate campaign fiance reform and limit funds to individual contributions from the districts that candidate represents.

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Afeazo 3 points ago +3 / -0

I am actually starting to hear the argument that our legal system is so complex that we need career politicians because these are the only people who will be able to understand all of this.

Like what the fuck? Our legal system should be simple, your average high school grad who is 35 years old should be qualified to be POTUS if they wanted to run for office. Fuck this career politician bullshit, and fuck the whole "you need a law degree to be a politician" bullshit.

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ByeByeProgs 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agreed. Having Yale and Harvard grads run federal government has not worked out for We The People.

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