People who fell hard for it will not admit they were lied to. The media will give them the transitional explanation to their new opinion of well he still didn't deserve to get shot. Everything still makes sense in their spoon-fed alternate reality, which glorifies criminals and demonizes heroes. People still think Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown were murdered...
I spoke to an officer here in the Seattle area about why everyone doesnt have body cams. She said all the cops would obviously love it, but the ACLU fought against it because it would make criminals more prosecutable increase black incarceration. They literally know and acknowledge they have a crime problem, and their way of addressing it is to try to cover it up.
it cost a lot of money to equip every officer on the department with a body camera, and even more money to provide all the storage to save all of the footage, it takes years to implement
Body cameras are cheap. Storage/disk space is dirt cheap and getting cheaper every other month. The body cams are only activated at certain times, so there’s not mountains of garbage data. And they could be implemented reasonably quickly, maybe a year or two.
Other large countries have done it successfully, I doubt America is so far gone that it cannot.
Like others have said, more likely is because they can’t politicise the event as easily.
and yes body cameras are only activated at certain times but every police interaction is recorded. every traffic stop and call for service. that adds up. i am for body cams but yes they are expensive
Lol doesnt matter the people i enegaged with were like why didnt they try to grab him, taser him, blah blah blah untol the only remaining point was the numerical count of how many times he was shot. I even shared a video an old man getting up after being shot 4x in the chest .....
Doesnt matter to them 7 shots is too many. Lol I asked would she be outraged if they had killed him but with only 1 shot, she said no..... So apperently its just the number of shots I just rolled my eyes cause she just wants to be outraged
Retired police officer/detective here (2018). You’re trained to shoot until it stops the threat. Not to maim and not to kill. Til the threat is over. Shots happen very fast in a dynamic situation. You can easily fire 7 shots within 1 second. Most officers have no idea how many shots they have fired when it’s all said and done. There’s not much time for aiming. You draw (if you haven’t already) and pull the trigger as fast as you can. Trust me, I know.
People who are clueless about guns should not opine about the number of shots. 7 TiMeS!? 7 shots don't take long to unload, especially from a handgun. That's what it took to neutralize him. It's not remotely excessive.
Those people are racist. So the black man is incapable of deescalating the situation? The criticisms of the police are often the same criticisms levied against game wardens when they kill a rampaging beast. That's so sad
Ok I've heard so many different things about this. He had a gun, he had a knife, he had a gun in the car, he was totally unarmed, does anyone have any actual proof or official reports? Cuz I can't take posts like this at face value.
As I understand it: He did not have a gun. He did have a knife. After attacking the police he ignored their commands and tried to get into the car. At this point they had no idea whether there was a gun in the car which is why they were forced to shoot him.
At this point, the media and left just outright lies about any and every altercation between police and public.
We need quick investigation, and preliminary facts to at least establish some grains of truth, because social and MSM will just blatantly lie, right off the bat.
I saw a slightly less grainy picture of this and thought it could be a keychain... looked like a leather flap attached to a keychain
Either way, who cares if he had the knife on him... or if he just had it in the car which he was trying to get into that had kids in it. The fucker was an undeniable danger to these cops (and the kids) at the point he got shot and they don’t have to just sit back and wait to get stabbed before they take action. No one sane thinks otherwise
Had a discussion with someone earlier today who downplayed the fact he had a knife. "It's only a 4 inch blade. That doesn't deserve seven bullets"
My response was " The planes that were hijacked on 9/11 and flown into the twin towers killing over 3,000 people were done by terrorists using box-cutters. Those blades are under 4 inches. I'm pretty sure they each deserved more than seven bullets".
They blocked me.
If you want one knife to ever own to absolutely fuck something up, buy an expensive karambit.
I've been cut many times, and nothing has spilled my blood more than a karambit.
If you lunge forward with the reverse grip and someone blocks your arm, you can release all but the finger through the ring, and the entire knife flips out and drives that disgustingly nasty sharp beak deep into your arm.
Knives are horrific - No one knows what this individual was capable of in this moment. Facing prison time for a open warrant and children in the vehicle, we can armchair the possible outcomes.
Well, if knives weren't readily available in stores, he wouldn't have had one. We need to outlaw knives as well. There's no justification for a human being only a knife like that. You don't need that knife to hunt with!
It is an excellent design for what it is meant for.
You can take out someone's throat or disembowel someone easy with one used right.
Not only is he an idiot for resisting arrest. He does not even know how to hold the weapon he had
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The technique of the karambit is also heavily focused on striking the weak points of the human body, such as the muscles from the knee and elbow. This is a very effective technique because of the curved blade. Because of this, the karambit is considered to be one of the deadliest melee weapons.
Armed or not, the bigger issue is if I ever shot anyone in the back, even on my property, I would be in jail regardless of circumstance. Ask the Kenosha kid how it feels to have what appears to be a totally justified self-defense shooting and then have to stress about the crazy charges brought against him.
Ok, I see he was armed, and clearly in the wrong. That being said, couldn't cops wound? Are they taught only to shoot to kill? If they are taught to kill, that is a problem. They are law enforcement, not street executioners.
Not a cop, not familiar with procedure. Could you shoot his leg or arm?
I know peeps here will disagree, but sometimes cops should read the room. Did we really need another incident?
People who fell hard for it will not admit they were lied to. The media will give them the transitional explanation to their new opinion of well he still didn't deserve to get shot. Everything still makes sense in their spoon-fed alternate reality, which glorifies criminals and demonizes heroes. People still think Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown were murdered...
Some people say they like brussel sprouts.
Some people say the cucumber taste better than the pickle.
This is not a knife. Probably sunglasses or something else. He reached for a knife in his floorboard as he was forcefully resisting arrest
This is the only correct answer.
I want to see this in a police report before sharing it. Damn I wish those cops had body cameras.
I spoke to an officer here in the Seattle area about why everyone doesnt have body cams. She said all the cops would obviously love it, but the ACLU fought against it because it would make criminals more prosecutable increase black incarceration. They literally know and acknowledge they have a crime problem, and their way of addressing it is to try to cover it up.
That’s BS, they should wear body cams anyways
it cost a lot of money to equip every officer on the department with a body camera, and even more money to provide all the storage to save all of the footage, it takes years to implement
This is false.
Body cameras are cheap. Storage/disk space is dirt cheap and getting cheaper every other month. The body cams are only activated at certain times, so there’s not mountains of garbage data. And they could be implemented reasonably quickly, maybe a year or two.
Other large countries have done it successfully, I doubt America is so far gone that it cannot.
Like others have said, more likely is because they can’t politicise the event as easily.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/national/some-us-police-departments-dump-body-camera-programs-amid-high-costs/2019/01/21/991f0e66-03ad-11e9-b6a9-0aa5c2fcc9e4_story.html%3foutputType=amp
and yes body cameras are only activated at certain times but every police interaction is recorded. every traffic stop and call for service. that adds up. i am for body cams but yes they are expensive
I was going to call bs until you mentioned the ACLU.
Same. Looking forward to confirmations. Knife is a deadly weapon, cops can shoot as many times as they need to in order to stop a threat.
Let's defund the police so less areas can afford body cameras
Lol doesnt matter the people i enegaged with were like why didnt they try to grab him, taser him, blah blah blah untol the only remaining point was the numerical count of how many times he was shot. I even shared a video an old man getting up after being shot 4x in the chest .....
They did taser him. Twice.
Doesnt matter to them 7 shots is too many. Lol I asked would she be outraged if they had killed him but with only 1 shot, she said no..... So apperently its just the number of shots I just rolled my eyes cause she just wants to be outraged
Retired police officer/detective here (2018). You’re trained to shoot until it stops the threat. Not to maim and not to kill. Til the threat is over. Shots happen very fast in a dynamic situation. You can easily fire 7 shots within 1 second. Most officers have no idea how many shots they have fired when it’s all said and done. There’s not much time for aiming. You draw (if you haven’t already) and pull the trigger as fast as you can. Trust me, I know.
Right? My friend asked why did they shoot him 7 times? I said that maybe they ran out of bullets cause they really needed one more shot
People who are clueless about guns should not opine about the number of shots. 7 TiMeS!? 7 shots don't take long to unload, especially from a handgun. That's what it took to neutralize him. It's not remotely excessive.
7 shots to neutralise someone is excessive. TF you on about. The officer clearly needs to up the caliber.
Ya that's what my boss said when I explained it to him. "We need better guns."
But ya, he might have been some after 2. You want to take that chance?
Those people are racist. So the black man is incapable of deescalating the situation? The criticisms of the police are often the same criticisms levied against game wardens when they kill a rampaging beast. That's so sad
I always ask, "at what point is he responsible for his actions?" Then mention all the action and decision of his that would have saved his life.
Ok I've heard so many different things about this. He had a gun, he had a knife, he had a gun in the car, he was totally unarmed, does anyone have any actual proof or official reports? Cuz I can't take posts like this at face value.
As I understand it: He did not have a gun. He did have a knife. After attacking the police he ignored their commands and tried to get into the car. At this point they had no idea whether there was a gun in the car which is why they were forced to shoot him.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8675713/Kenosha-police-union-gives-version-Blake-shooting.html
Children were also in the car, if he was allowed to drive away, the chase would certainly put their lives in danger.
According to the police statement, that wasn’t his vehicle either.
At this point, the media and left just outright lies about any and every altercation between police and public.
We need quick investigation, and preliminary facts to at least establish some grains of truth, because social and MSM will just blatantly lie, right off the bat.
See this is what separates us from leftists. We even check our own sources and question each other. They just blindly follow
He wun no bad boi, he jus do bad thangs...sheeeeeeeit.
This seems to be confirmed by the police union statement covered in this article: https://www.theblaze.com/news/kenosha-police-union-statement-jacob-blake-shooting
What’s the big deal? He was just trying to scare the hell out of that brat kid who said velociraptors aren’t scary.
Chunibyo
I saw a slightly less grainy picture of this and thought it could be a keychain... looked like a leather flap attached to a keychain
Either way, who cares if he had the knife on him... or if he just had it in the car which he was trying to get into that had kids in it. The fucker was an undeniable danger to these cops (and the kids) at the point he got shot and they don’t have to just sit back and wait to get stabbed before they take action. No one sane thinks otherwise
It weel kut.
He was just going for a jog. Everyone knows you run faster with a knife.
He was just trying to get away. Everyone knows you run faster with a knife out.
And he’s even holding it wrong.
Fucking retard. Literally.
The police prevented a high speed car chase with children in the car.
Had a discussion with someone earlier today who downplayed the fact he had a knife. "It's only a 4 inch blade. That doesn't deserve seven bullets" My response was " The planes that were hijacked on 9/11 and flown into the twin towers killing over 3,000 people were done by terrorists using box-cutters. Those blades are under 4 inches. I'm pretty sure they each deserved more than seven bullets". They blocked me.
I saw that the first time i saw the video and knew instantly what it was
Just a gentle giant
He was just about to go to college.
CNN doesnt know how to pause videos WTF
Oh look, an Indonesian karambit... nothing to see here, resume rioting, assholes.
If you want one knife to ever own to absolutely fuck something up, buy an expensive karambit.
I've been cut many times, and nothing has spilled my blood more than a karambit.
If you lunge forward with the reverse grip and someone blocks your arm, you can release all but the finger through the ring, and the entire knife flips out and drives that disgustingly nasty sharp beak deep into your arm.
Damn near like cutting your own wrist.
Fuck this guy.
Why are these “martyrs” of BLM always such incredible scumbags?
Could be Dr. Grant's raptor claw too.
That’s a nice looking Karambit
Knives are horrific - No one knows what this individual was capable of in this moment. Facing prison time for a open warrant and children in the vehicle, we can armchair the possible outcomes.
"It will kill."
Well, if knives weren't readily available in stores, he wouldn't have had one. We need to outlaw knives as well. There's no justification for a human being only a knife like that. You don't need that knife to hunt with!
I watch A LOT of forged in fire and Doug Marcaida holds his blade down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWe4yNctSxQ
Good riddance. Obey lawful orders you won’t get shot dead.
Other than the fact the moron isn't holding it correctly... yes, it's dangerous
Nooo, it’s just a velociraptor claw. That dindu nuffin was an amateur archaeologist.
What was he going to car for then? A gun?
C'mon Man thats just his peaceful steal claw for peaceful blood letting.
There are EDC knives and then there are EDC blades meant for killing. That's obviously the latter.
Obviously his cell phone you racist
Klingon knife? what a dumb design.
It is an excellent design for what it is meant for.
You can take out someone's throat or disembowel someone easy with one used right.
Not only is he an idiot for resisting arrest. He does not even know how to hold the weapon he had .
https://i.maga.host/x0Gp5Mw.png
Im thinking like a person who just wants to use it on a deer now and again. I can see now its formidable with the grip posted.
Yes, not a regular utility knife. It is designed to disable or kill a human quickly.
Jacob Blake was an even bigger idiot than we thought. That is an accomplishment of its own.
A feral jogger with a karambit ?
Armed or not, the bigger issue is if I ever shot anyone in the back, even on my property, I would be in jail regardless of circumstance. Ask the Kenosha kid how it feels to have what appears to be a totally justified self-defense shooting and then have to stress about the crazy charges brought against him.
Ok, I see he was armed, and clearly in the wrong. That being said, couldn't cops wound? Are they taught only to shoot to kill? If they are taught to kill, that is a problem. They are law enforcement, not street executioners.
Not a cop, not familiar with procedure. Could you shoot his leg or arm?
I know peeps here will disagree, but sometimes cops should read the room. Did we really need another incident?