It is ridiculous how people just accept what they are told at face value. A friend of mine bought into the wear a mask and I tell him “I can’t spread it if i don’t have it” he says “well what if you are asymptomatic?” I say “if I’m asymptomatic I cannot spread it”. It’s so frustrating that people are petrified of the China flu.
Here in Western NY we have been going to jiu jitsu class, hanging out, going to bars that aren't enforcing Cuomo's bullshit food regulations, and playing full court basketball at the parks. Everybody is pretty much over the shit besides the delusional REEEEEEEEEEEEEs from Leftist that watch news all day every day.
Same here. So many people think NY is just downstate, and NYC in particular.
BTW, that "asymptomatic spreaders" crap is how they were able to exercise control and impose mask-wearing on everyone. Already, one tyrannical governor whose name I forgot (she's female, but it's not Whitmer) said that she'd require masks for "cold and flu season," too.
I hate the gym man, i'm better just doing calisthenics in the park where you don't have to smell the stale fermented sweat and degrading china rubber. that shit just isn't healthy, imo.
Got a tour from the hot hostess, first thing out of her mouth was "Planet fitness is a judgement-free zone"... I enjoyed her company for another five minutes and said fuck this I'm going to the Y.
There is a difference between grunting and being obnoxious and yelling for attention. Some faggots think 240 is some insane amount of weight to be benching to the point they need to yell.
There is evidence on both sides. It will take years to cut through the bullshit, once the media and public have gotten bored of the mask thing. Then we'll eventually figure out just how much of a factor asymptomatic spreaders were. I doubt it's zero, but probably way less than people think.
It might take years for THEM to "cut through the bullshit," but that'll be their problem. The people won't put up with these infringements on their liberties for that long.
These evil bastards covered every angle didn't they,? Worst flu ever so we gotta shut down the United States. Greatest fraud perpetrated on the world in my lifetime. Well that and man made climate change.
But what if people aren't showing signs of being sick? What do we do? Asymptomatic grasshopper. No one can argue with that
A person's hands are a bigger problem, because as you said they're touching everything. They think blocking their mouth is going to solve everything, when in reality germs are being spread by their hands instead!
u/Nibba That's the one thing I never understood about the mask thing. Ok, so the mask allegedly "protects" from the wu flu, but nobody's wearing gloves to prevent spreading that way?
And gloves are just another surface for the virus to attach to. Wear gloves, touch infected item, mask...gloves infected. Also spread without doing shit.
I feel bad for the people that live in constant fear because of the media. The reality is that this and other viruses are out there and everyone is at risk of something if they leave the house. Fortunately that risk seems to be pretty low. If someone wants to be extra cautious and wear a mask then I’m fine with that. If they want to force other healthy people to not work, go out, or to wear a mask then that’s crossing the line.
Exactly. You want to be dumb and ruin your health by wearing a mask and isolating yourself? Fine whatever you moron. But my life shouldn't be ruined because you're a fucking brainwashed sheep.
That's going too far in the other direction and makes us look crazy. Asymptomatic spread of viruses in general is a very real thing. In the case of coronaviruses, they can spread just from exhaling next to somebody. Of course these masks people are wearing do very little, and the virus isn't a deadly plague, but saying “if I’m asymptomatic I cannot spread it” is false.
We should push the narrative in other directions rather than spreading psuedoscience.
Effectiveness of masks is not proven. Unless it's an N95 mask it probably does nothing.
There's no reason to wear a mask outside anyway. Especially if you're not in a dense crowd. Sunlight kills virus and the wind blows it away.
Masks are a symbol used to virtue-signal compliance more than anything.
We've never "locked down" over a virus with <3% fatality rate. If you get the virus you'll probably be fine. It's mass-hysteria.
Locking down itself may be worse than the virus with job loss, depression, suicide, domestic violence. Staying inside weakens our immune systems.
The whole reason for the lock down was to flatten the curve. Even health officials were saying it would spread to everyone eventually - we just wanted to prevent hospitals from getting overloaded. Which we did. Mission accomplished.
Lockdowns around the world were heavily pushed by Chinese social media influencers, even though China only did it in two cities.
We should probably let more people get the virus so we have herd immunity. Any efforts to contain it should be targeted to vulnerable communities only.
Yeah I think even the head of the WHO said it's not proven, but then she had to walk those comments back when the powers that be got to her. (ie China)
It is ridiculous how people just accept what they are told at face value. A friend of mine bought into the wear a mask and I tell him “I can’t spread it if i don’t have it” he says “well what if you are asymptomatic?” I say “if I’m asymptomatic I cannot spread it”. It’s so frustrating that people are petrified of the China flu.
There are so many ppl who believe the fake news that “MUH ASYMPTOMATIC PPL ARE SPREADING THE VIRUS!”
This has the been the single biggest element of disinformation during the whole bullshit China virus crap.
If ppl knew asymptomatic ppl can’t spread it, they’d stop w the masks and start hanging out together again & go back to normal. It’s so sad
Here in Western NY we have been going to jiu jitsu class, hanging out, going to bars that aren't enforcing Cuomo's bullshit food regulations, and playing full court basketball at the parks. Everybody is pretty much over the shit besides the delusional REEEEEEEEEEEEEs from Leftist that watch news all day every day.
I've seen that a couple times and it's kinda funny but more sad.
Do they text or otherwise drive erratically and dangerously while masked?
They do here in Chicago
Same here. So many people think NY is just downstate, and NYC in particular.
BTW, that "asymptomatic spreaders" crap is how they were able to exercise control and impose mask-wearing on everyone. Already, one tyrannical governor whose name I forgot (she's female, but it's not Whitmer) said that she'd require masks for "cold and flu season," too.
That'd be Wuhan Lujan here in New Mexico.
Planet Fitness is a woke gym anyway, good riddance. If you grunt while lifting heavy weights they kick you out.
Guess what cucks, I have testosterone and sometimes grunt when pushing 240+ on bench.
I hate the gym man, i'm better just doing calisthenics in the park where you don't have to smell the stale fermented sweat and degrading china rubber. that shit just isn't healthy, imo.
Got a tour from the hot hostess, first thing out of her mouth was "Planet fitness is a judgement-free zone"... I enjoyed her company for another five minutes and said fuck this I'm going to the Y.
There is a difference between grunting and being obnoxious and yelling for attention. Some faggots think 240 is some insane amount of weight to be benching to the point they need to yell.
Same, fuck that place.
There is evidence on both sides. It will take years to cut through the bullshit, once the media and public have gotten bored of the mask thing. Then we'll eventually figure out just how much of a factor asymptomatic spreaders were. I doubt it's zero, but probably way less than people think.
Fine. But if people aren't coughing or sneezing there aren't any "droplets" for the mask to catch.
And if they are exhaling the virus by speaking, or even just breathing, the mask won't do a damn thing anyway.
This.
It might take years for THEM to "cut through the bullshit," but that'll be their problem. The people won't put up with these infringements on their liberties for that long.
These evil bastards covered every angle didn't they,? Worst flu ever so we gotta shut down the United States. Greatest fraud perpetrated on the world in my lifetime. Well that and man made climate change.
But what if people aren't showing signs of being sick? What do we do? Asymptomatic grasshopper. No one can argue with that
Hold my beer.
I just ask "if the masks are effective, why are they not treated as a Biohazard after 1 use?"
Big brain right here
A person's hands are a bigger problem, because as you said they're touching everything. They think blocking their mouth is going to solve everything, when in reality germs are being spread by their hands instead!
mUh DrOpLeTs DuHhHhH Even though the news said the virus can survive 18 hours on a surface. Well, which one is it?
u/Nibba That's the one thing I never understood about the mask thing. Ok, so the mask allegedly "protects" from the wu flu, but nobody's wearing gloves to prevent spreading that way?
And gloves are just another surface for the virus to attach to. Wear gloves, touch infected item, mask...gloves infected. Also spread without doing shit.
Please dont give the ideas
I feel bad for the people that live in constant fear because of the media. The reality is that this and other viruses are out there and everyone is at risk of something if they leave the house. Fortunately that risk seems to be pretty low. If someone wants to be extra cautious and wear a mask then I’m fine with that. If they want to force other healthy people to not work, go out, or to wear a mask then that’s crossing the line.
Exactly. You want to be dumb and ruin your health by wearing a mask and isolating yourself? Fine whatever you moron. But my life shouldn't be ruined because you're a fucking brainwashed sheep.
If they complain tell 'em, My Body-My Choice.
That's going too far in the other direction and makes us look crazy. Asymptomatic spread of viruses in general is a very real thing. In the case of coronaviruses, they can spread just from exhaling next to somebody. Of course these masks people are wearing do very little, and the virus isn't a deadly plague, but saying “if I’m asymptomatic I cannot spread it” is false.
We should push the narrative in other directions rather than spreading psuedoscience.
Effectiveness of masks is not proven. Unless it's an N95 mask it probably does nothing.
There's no reason to wear a mask outside anyway. Especially if you're not in a dense crowd. Sunlight kills virus and the wind blows it away.
Masks are a symbol used to virtue-signal compliance more than anything.
We've never "locked down" over a virus with <3% fatality rate. If you get the virus you'll probably be fine. It's mass-hysteria.
Locking down itself may be worse than the virus with job loss, depression, suicide, domestic violence. Staying inside weakens our immune systems.
The whole reason for the lock down was to flatten the curve. Even health officials were saying it would spread to everyone eventually - we just wanted to prevent hospitals from getting overloaded. Which we did. Mission accomplished.
Lockdowns around the world were heavily pushed by Chinese social media influencers, even though China only did it in two cities.
We should probably let more people get the virus so we have herd immunity. Any efforts to contain it should be targeted to vulnerable communities only.
CDC said asymptomatic spread was bullshit, or some other large health body. It's not some fringe idea.
Yeah I think even the head of the WHO said it's not proven, but then she had to walk those comments back when the powers that be got to her. (ie China)
99.4% survival rate if ya do get it
We all know it's higher than that, too.