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whocaresguy420 32 points ago +48 / -16

Ban porn

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labajada -20 points ago +14 / -34

I found the muzzys!

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Loiuzein 42 points ago +47 / -5

Porn has a detrimental effect on a person's worth to society, let alone their estimation of self worth or their time available to better themselves.

That said, I wouldn't ban it. Like most things, it must simply be done in moderation.

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magaroniAndCheese 10 points ago +10 / -0

a democrat would prefer children

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HockeyMom4Trump 12 points ago +12 / -0

Then where will liberal girls with daddy issues work?

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ThSowell -4 points ago +2 / -6

Fuck off.

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NancyPeloci 26 points ago +33 / -7

I would say instead of making gay marriage illegal, we should just take the government out of marriage all together. It should be a ceremony and a promise between two people that the government doesn't have any hand in. IMO.

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TrumpTrain425 11 points ago +15 / -4

Why does the government #NEED to be involved in your marriage?

Instead of being tax chattel, kick the government out of places it doesn't belong.

It's the overreach that is the issue. Not the societal impact.

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Major_Nutt 7 points ago +9 / -2

Because it's also a legal issue. The only way to get the government out of marriage completely would be to make women non-persons/property again. No changing of last names because no paperwork would be in her name, no having to file joint taxes because she's not allowed to have an actual job. "Mrs John Doe" would be have to be literal.

Not saying this should be done, it shouldn't. It's just an example.

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wrathofdog 5 points ago +7 / -2

Trump is the new right, and the new right includes gays.

If the new Right is just the old Left, what's the point? Don't fool yourself: the true Right will never embrace homosexuality or transsexuality or pedophilia or any of it. Sexual deviancy is not Right.

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magaroniAndCheese -17 points ago +2 / -19

do we really need more people?

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Ekgamut 19 points ago +19 / -0

Yes.

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Leporidae 4 points ago +4 / -0

As long as we don't have to pay for people making kids they can't afford to feed or who'll end up living on welfare their whole lives.

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4218 3 points ago +5 / -2

What someone does on their own time, between two 100% consenting adults is none of our concern. I say Barrack and Michael Obama can fuck all they want...

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1080pleb 2 points ago +2 / -0

We need more intelligent, capable people. Certain populations supply that better than others.

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magaroniAndCheese 0 points ago +1 / -1

arent we full enuff?

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1080pleb 2 points ago +2 / -0

With dumbass wastes of space, absolutely. With quality citizens, nossir, no we are not.

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magaroniAndCheese 0 points ago +1 / -1

n.s.w

never stop winning

👍👍

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Torterraman 10 points ago +17 / -7

Honestly, some if this is extreme. Borders should not be completely closed. Only open to proven hardworking individuals who speak english and will benefit the country. The government should have no say in marriage. Adultery is subjective and religious and shouldn’t be restricted by law. Anyone can then just come in and outlaw what they subjectively think is immoral. Removing all sex education from schools will result in more unplanned pregnancies.

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MyNameIsMud 5 points ago +10 / -5

Legal immigrants pay taxes dont they? Or no? Trumps wife is an immigrant. Maximo is an immigrant. Not all immigrants are bad.

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Modernturnkey 0 points ago +1 / -1

Not all antifa protestors are violent either.

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ladypede_killer 9 points ago +19 / -10

Teach men and women to value chastity, Make adultery illegal

"The congress shall make no law..."

Thanks for playing.

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ladypede_killer 3 points ago +13 / -10

Yes, it does. It is a law concerning the establishment of religion.

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KozyKat 9 points ago +9 / -0

Agreed. I see adultery as breach of marriage contract. Nothing religious about that. If the contract has breached by one party then they must be at fault with some repercussions. No fault divorce is the beginning of the slippery slope.

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ladypede_killer 2 points ago +10 / -8

"This law is about preventing social degeneracy by mandating burqas, not religion!"

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RedDuck 6 points ago +7 / -1

Where do you draw the line? Should bestiality be illegal? Or is that just religious superstition to think something is wrong with it?

And don't tell me this is an issue of a lack of consent. I can slit an animal's throat and eat it.

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ladypede_killer 6 points ago +8 / -2

Where do you draw the line? Should I have my eye put out because I looked at a woman. Should women be mandated to wear head coverings because Paul said so? Or because it prevents social degeneracy and has nothing to do with religion, at all, whatsoever, nothing to see here?

To answer your question, the founding fathers, some of whom were extremely "degenerate" by u/Zekk 's standards, wrote about this thing called "the laws of Nature and Nature's God."

The job of the government is not to force one person's idea of morality onto another. It doesn't matter if the morality is based on feminist theory on avoiding the objectification of women or on "the Bible said so."

u/Zekk is trying to act as if government implementing this type of legislation has any sort of historical precedent or constitutional grounds. it doesn't. he is a religious person advocating for laws concerning the establishment of religion.

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DrGEOTUS 3 points ago +3 / -0

So they are only accounting for cash payments and not military. Add another 3B annually to each for a more accurate representation.

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FearDaNazgulz 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'd say if we give them aid we need something in return. The more money, the more we demand. For $3B I'd say a strategic US base in Israel would be nice. Each year we give them aid, we get a guaranteed amount of years to keep it there. I'm fine with helping people, but that's money to help our country too so I have mixed feelings.. No idea why we would give money to Ireland or even Italy. All the millions to Mexico should be sent directly to the wall tbh. If they need it so badly, we can trade land for aid, or allowance of our interests or both. It'd create jobs for both the US and the country we send aid too.

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MaoHatesSparrows -9 points ago +9 / -18

The difference is that Israel is a country of thinking, decent people who believe in the rule of law, surrounded on all sides by vicious, genocidal enemies. Think about it.

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MaoHatesSparrows -9 points ago +6 / -15

Israel is an unsinkable military base right in the heart of the enemy.

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labajada 8 points ago +9 / -1

No, but if you hum a few bars I'll see if I can pick it up.

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ParadigmShift2070 9 points ago +9 / -0

The enemy that became the enemy because Israel is right in the heart of it

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MaoHatesSparrows 0 points ago +5 / -5

Their hate runs much deeper than that. For them it's religious and racial, which is why no amount of being nice makes them your friend.

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learntocode -1 points ago +5 / -6

Plus they maintain an imbalanaced power structure in the area, making it politically impossible for Arabs to unify against their oil customers.

Additionally, Israel pisses everyone off on 4chan and then we lol at the memes.

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cuckslasher 3 points ago +3 / -0

itsAllSoTiresome.jpg

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IamM 33 points ago +33 / -0

The entire idea of helping africa makes no sense considering they've literally had a 3,000 year headstart on the rest of the "west" yet are still a racist shit-hole drinking dirty water and sleeping on beds full of leaves. Their problems don't stem from a lack of financial support, they stem from bad decision making. It's like trying to suggest that a drug-addicted homeless person could turn their life completely around if given $50.

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Dirk_Diggler 28 points ago +28 / -0

I knew someone who did missionary/volunteer work over in those shit holes, all of the above and similar occurs regularly. That part of the world just doesn't "get it." However you want to break that down.

My favorite story was one were a well was installed in one of these shit hole villages and had been used for a little while with "success." One day people in the village were becoming violently ill, so some missionary volunteers went back to this village to see what was going on. Long story short, an animal had fallen into the well and drown, decomposing and fouling the water. The dead animal was removed, and the people went back to using the well immediately, because they thought it was ok now that the dead animal was removed, and continued to get sick, despite the infinite patience and explaining. They said it would have been easier to keep people from using it, if they told them an evil spirit lives in the well and making them sick.

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learntocode 11 points ago +11 / -0

They should have used the evil spirit story, if it would have worked.

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8bit_mixtape 25 points ago +25 / -0

I've been saying the US taxpayers real job is to accumulate enough tax dollars to send out to Foreign countries as a pay day. Their wealth comes off our backs. The dems know this and are ramping up fast to steal this election from Trump.

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learntocode 6 points ago +7 / -1

If the US stopped going into debt, all the parasites in need of treasury bonds would freak out.

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FudgyFudgeBots 23 points ago +23 / -0

The purpose of foreign aid is to ensure dependency. Just like welfare is used to create slaves who will do what the system commands, foreign aid is designed to do the same.

Its a control mechanism only. It does not go into the hands of the people nor was it designed to do so.

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FudgyFudgeBots 11 points ago +11 / -0

And its for a purpose, not aid for starving children. The purpose may noy be clear but it has a purpose.

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ORD_to_SFO 21 points ago +21 / -0

I have a similar Peace Corps story from a friend...

He went to Africa, and had a special project to teach hygiene to a small village. He worked tirelessly to coordinate the lesson-plans, volunteers, advertising...basically everything you'd need to pull people out of their mud-huts, and teach them sciency stuff.

The day of the lesson came. All they asked about, is when the food would come out. They received lectures about contraception, how to know when food was cooked, why brushing teeth mattered. But the best part, was the lesson on washing hands. He led them outside, where each person was stood in front of two large buckets of water. He explained the purpose of washing hands, and then led them through the process. First, they got their hands wet in one bucket, and each was given a bit of soap, and instructed to rub their hands together to lather them up. Next, they were told to dip their hands in the other bucket (the clean water) to rinse their hands off. Voila! Your hands are clean! ...Noticing that their hands were now wet, each of them, without stopping to think for a millisecond began to rub their hands in the dirt at their feat to dry them off.

My friend was the ultimate cuck. Believed in all the most progressive bullshit, and was a liberal to his core. But after he came back from Africa, he told me this story, and admitted, that Africans are just dumb as shit, and they couldn't even be trained to wash their hands.

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learntocode 5 points ago +6 / -1

Perhaps he is dumb as shit to think his bizarro rituals would mean anyhing but a free lunch to the poor hicks in a backwater town.

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Afripede 17 points ago +17 / -0

I wonder if they'll ever stop blaming colonialism and slavery for their cultural problems. You have to aknowledge problems before you can fix them. Africa is a mess -- can't blame that shit on white people anymore.

It's not like Africa supports the US in any way...not even ideologically.

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the_donaldjtrump 15 points ago +15 / -0

This is the great grift of our time. Politicians send BILLIONS in "foreign aid" to corrupt nations, and in return we get their migrants (who promptly get housing, healthcare, etc. upon entering). They also get propaganda targeted at them to believe that the people who built this country are bad, ending up as loyal leftist voters. Happens in Europe too.

I wonder how many Black BLM members never were a part of slavery, but had families who emigrated here from Africa on the U.S's dime in the past 30 years

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HumblePede 13 points ago +13 / -0

This is EXACTLY what is being done to the black community here in the US!

The deep state/left is undermining black people by ramping up crime in their communities, wiping out education, wiping out faith, destroying the nuclear family, and making them wholly dependent on government hand outs. And if they strive for more, they are being coons, or too white, or Uncle Toms.

It's frightening how quickly an entire population can be subjugated with a little intentional forethought. It was only in the 1950s (not so long ago) that intact black families were enjoying the same economic boom that white families were after WW2.

This is deliberate. Keep them on the plantation. Keep them voting Democrat. Keep them powerless and enslaved. And it's a damn shame.

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momosinthedojo 11 points ago +12 / -1

This post reminds me of what I've learned about some differences between Christians, and Muslims who technically worship the same God.

In Islam, Allah is the God of Will. That is, the tradition emphasizes God's ability to make anything happen, even something incoherent.

In Christianity, God is the Logos. The tradition emphasizes the inherent coherence and rationality of God and therefore of His Creation. The world has an underlying rationality that can be discovered. Planning for tomorrow becomes not just a rational pursuit, but a moral injunction.

Such is my understanding anyway.

Procedural Liberalism has reduced religious priniciples to a private concern, along the lines of a personal hobby.

Turns out the First Things have real, concrete consequences

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GilaMonsterous 11 points ago +12 / -1

Allah is not the same as the Christian God, not even technically. Islam doesn't recognize the divinity of Jesus Christ.

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MapleBaconWaffles 3 points ago +3 / -0

What about Judaism then?

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Zenweaponry 10 points ago +10 / -0

But they was kangs n shit! Seriously though, it's embarrassing to hear from uninformed people how Africa would be a 1st world continent if it weren't for the triangle trade while they ignore the rampant superstition, backwards thinking, the cultural destruction of delayed gratification, or really any of the problems afflicting the continent. Unless the western worldview, science, delayed gratification, and a whole host of other values are adopted, we're gonna see continuing poverty and misery in large swaths of Africa. Unfortunately, a lot of our aid comes in the form of "gimmiedats" as anon said, when really we (read: the Africans actually have this responsibility to their own communuties, but if you want to meaningfully help...) have to create a colossal education campaign for young Africans and fight a cultural war there so that they don't revert to the same communal beliefs. It's hard to see a way to real improvement with the way things are though.

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Avykins 10 points ago +10 / -0

I remember a story from probably like 10 years ago where a major African or Ethiopian economist was openly calling for an end to foreign aid. He said it made his country weaker because no one wanted to work, wanted to improve their own villages and just waiting for the next truck full of foreign aid food to show up. Foreign aid had actually made the area worse because before it was work or starve, now its work and get stolen from or do nothing and get free shit from foreigners. I mean we can all understand foreign aid for a very limited time in case of catastrophes but even those should be treated as loans, but just endless sinks of money is terrible for everyone involved.

And just for fun, an old Sargon video, All Cultures are Beautiful 8 -The Penis Thieves of Burkina Faso

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DrGEOTUS 3 points ago +3 / -0

Carl's bit on the African area of the Natural History Museum is one of my favorite videos of his. All the vids in his All Cultures series are a very close second.

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DrGEOTUS 2 points ago +2 / -0

https://youtu.be/XCNDcpIVi-o

It really highlights the way cultural relativism is placed into our institutions in insidious and subversive ways.

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BoJo 10 points ago +10 / -0

I had a play around last night and worked something out.

In the UK our government spends approximately £1 trillion a year.

In the UK the entire workforce earns approximately £1 trillion a year.

Given that 16.5% of the workforce works for the government, where the fuck is the rest of the money going?

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Teletraan-won 9 points ago +10 / -1

Genetics matter. Everyone hates white people because they have the best genetics, not in a moral way (everyone being equal under God and the law) but when it comes to creating high trust civilizations with advanced technology. Call me a "white supremist" all you want, but from just looking at all the other places in the world, their status, and exactly who populates them, I cannot come to any other conclusion but that caucasian genetics are in fact supreme.

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TEXinLA 8 points ago +8 / -0

Worth the read. Some crazy shit you probably thought was true is completely true. What happens to your tax money when it is given to shit hole countries.

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NordicRonin 5 points ago +5 / -0

End ALL foreign aid! It’s the 21st century! Those that can will. Those that can’t have been proven to be. It’s all a huge scam. Having seen it first hand on the stage department, international level, it’s disgusting. The Chinese essentially own major parts of Africa now even if they don’t realize it or care. Only the corrupt rich benefit, as they always have. Fix the U.S. infrastructure now and let the third world fend for itself.

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JoeBob 3 points ago +3 / -0

Make the term "shit hole countries" great again!!!

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Eric-CIA-ramella 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is one of the biggest redpills from 4chan for the "all cultures are equal and have something to offer" crowd of retards. Amazing post.

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ParadigmShift2070 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is that a copy pasta from amren?

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justsomefuckingdude 2 points ago +2 / -0

The only foreign aid we should be involved in is sterilization.

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Bigly2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

This makes a lot of sense. Didn’t the original sin of slavery here come from buying them from black chiefs for some bling? Even here today look at the culture. Not all of course but the larger part look down on education and achievement unless it’s dribbling or rapping. Anyone educated or nuclear family type are too white for them. They cry oppression on stop and create chanting groups (blm) and run around burning shit and intimidating innocent people. No wonder Africa is in a constant state of civil war, greed and tyranny.

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learntocode 2 points ago +3 / -1

Sounds like a reslient system and a way of life we should stop interefering with.

On the other hand, rapacious wealth stripping and strategic miitary base building does benefit the country that can execute on those two missions.

International aid is the silver we hand to a countrys elites in order to get our bases set up.and resources taken out of the ground and shipped to our homelands or associated factories.

They say "no thanks" we give em the lead.

The "aid" is, at its root, a fraud.

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Brulz_Lulz 1 point ago +1 / -0

It doesn't even help the people it's supposed to. Everyone knows that foreign aid is just a kickback for corrupt oligarchs.

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Reclaim_NYC 1 point ago +1 / -0

This all makes perfect sense, it really does, but foreign aid isn’t about helping those beyond help, it’s about buying influence. What do you think happens if we stop sending checks to African governments? Do you think they will go through a shitty decade or two, but then straighten themselves out? No, what will happen is that you will have the sneaky Chinese in there the very next day ready to fill the vacuum. Kick a few million to some shit dictator, tell him to stay in line or risk losing it, thereby minimizing the risk of sneaky Chinese weasels pilfering the mineral resources of said shit country while paying nothing for the privilege.

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Bellababeala 1 point ago +1 / -0

Spoiler alert...the Chinese are already there and have bought up half the continent. Africans have no loyalty to the US. It doesn’t matter we supported them for 80 years. China is offering them more and they took it. Can’t even be mad at them like POTUS said many times about other leaders around the world.

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Reclaim_NYC 2 points ago +2 / -0

Africa has a ton of mineral wealth, so no. Personally, I think that a plata o plomo method of dealing with Africa is good. Buy them off in foreign aid, if they step out of line, send the military in; if they want to make a go of it alone, that’s fine - if they want to invite Chinese weasels in, that should be a no go.

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MapleBaconWaffles 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have a family friend who works for an organization that teaches farming in Africa. One of the things they emphasize in their training is not to offer free stuff, even little things, because then people just come out for what they can get.

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RagnarD 1 point ago +1 / -0

So let me see if I got this right.

1 Europeans go to Africa and lift it out of the stone age.

2 Europeans are kicked out of Africa.

3 Africa starts to return to the stone age.

4 Western Civilization is taxed to keep Africa from returning to the stone age.

There's an 800 lb gorilla in the room.

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Barth0lomeo 0 points ago +1 / -1

You don't understand how foreign aid to "poor countries" works.
The US gives money to poor countries in exchange for them funding private (elites') interests through:

  • buying stuff like weapons, drugs (from Big Pharma), chemicals...
  • reimbursing loans to the Banking Cartel.
  • ....
    It is just another tax on the american taxpayers from the elites.
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ModsBanPaleos -2 points ago +1 / -3

Wheres the rest of this post?

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ModsBanPaleos 0 points ago +3 / -3

Yea sure. I remember it having stuff in it about how theyre language doesnt translate american ideas well because they dont have words for it. Thanks

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AbsurdOpinion -9 points ago +4 / -13

This is surprisingly a very bad idea. Foreign aid is an investment that benefits the US more than the recipient of the aid. Other nations, especially many in Africa are very corrupt and if you want access to their resources you need to pay them off. Consider it the price of doing business.

Sometimes America first means sending aid to foreign countries.

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FL_Trumpnado 11 points ago +11 / -0

LOL AFRICA has been a shithole for 3000 years..........No need to send USA aid to a 3000 year old shithole!

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FL_Trumpnado 8 points ago +8 / -0

and AFRICA 3000 years later with foreign aid is "STILL A FUCKING SHITHOLE!"

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learntocode 0 points ago +4 / -4

The mineral wealth of portions of West Africa are enabling the exponential growth in microchip manufacturing our digital world relies on. The oil fields of Nigeria fuel European growth. It is complicated, but really it is also very simple. Foreign aid is a bribe. NGOs are a money laundering scheme. They ply.their fraud here in the US as well.

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Slick_Willy 4 points ago +5 / -1

Something tells me I could trick the locals with FAR less cash into giving up oil and minerals.

Show up and tell them the great lion baboon god sent you and they must obey.

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learntocode 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is their leaders you have to worry about. Gangsters and warlords want their cut.

The NGO hustle is a way to justify "moral" tourism, to wash government money into the hands of political allies, as well as ill-gotten profits to be brought in as legal income with tax breaks for donations to official charities.

Two separate hustles, one in the interests of our consumer society, the other a byproduct of the nonprofit industrial complex.

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AbsurdOpinion -1 points ago +2 / -3

It has, no question, but it's also a rich source of mineral wealth that we need. It will never be industrialized so you have to deal with the warlords, and that means "aid" (aka bribes).

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ORD_to_SFO 9 points ago +9 / -0

In all the decades of sending aid to Africa in the form of money, food, equipment, training... What have we gotten in return?

Nothing.

For all the money the world has poured into Africa, they should be AT LEAST the worlds most advance manufacturing center. But no...They produce nothing.

Your argument that we need to pay them, so we can get their resources is utter bullshit. If we wanted whatever mud they have in supply, we'd walk right in and take it, and it wouldn't cost us a Trillion dollars to do it. pssht...pay off the warlords, so we can get resources. Cheat in order to cheat. Why not just roll in with tanks, and take it? You don't even have a moral argument.

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AbsurdOpinion -4 points ago +2 / -6

Much of the aid that went to Africa wasn't from the government, it was from non profits who get their cash from suckers who fall for the "Feed the Children" crap which, like many such charities only feeds the people who run it.

When we do send aid it's usually in the form of food, like cheese, which is actually overstock the government buys from dairy farmers here in the US so technically the aid is staying here.

When we need resources, like rare earths, then we have to buy off the corrupt guys over there. Business is business.

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dahdahdah_dahditdah 5 points ago +5 / -0

Name checks out. When the government spends our tax money to buy cheese from farmers and ships the cheese elsewhere, it is not true that the money/value stays here. There's marginal benefit to farmers, but it's overall a chunk taken out of our economy.

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AbsurdOpinion -3 points ago +3 / -6

Not at all. It's a realistic approach to the fact that foreign commerce is inherently unfair. Tarrifs work, withholding aid just sends resources we need to the next highest bidder. One look at Chyna's infliltration of African market proves it. Good will is part of the business of international negotiations.

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AbsurdOpinion -1 points ago +2 / -3

We don't need their oil, we have our own. But aid to Iraq buys US bases from which we can keep Iran cornered. And anything that pisses off Iran is ok by me.

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AbsurdOpinion 3 points ago +4 / -1

Nah, Bolton is a war monger. I just like seeing Iran cornered like a rat. No need for actual fighting. It's like the Chyna tarriffs... we don't need to fight them, we just need cut off their lifeblood and then watch them bend the knee.