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I believe Floyd had more than enough fentanyl in his system to kill 3 people and he said he couldn’t breathe well before he was ever put on the ground with a knee to his neck. He even apparently asked to be put on the ground.
Case closed. He should have cooperated with police so they didn’t need to restrain him.
I think they’d just find some other bullshit video to go riot about like the Jacob Blake one that came out recently. These vidoes are gonna keep coming out as thugs get shot and restrained while refusing to cooperate with law enforcement.
Yeah... it used to be used to refer to homosexual males who married a woman to belay any suspicions. She would become his “beard” making people think he isn’t really so light in the loafers.
Yep, they have reached a point where any black person injured or killed in any interaction with police, regardless of the circumstances, is an excuse for them to commit acts of terrorism.
Hell, they rioted over a guy committing suicide in Minneapolis the other night. In most of their minds, Trump being president is excuse enough to commit terrorism. Now you've got cunt authors getting NPR coverage justifying looting.
I've voted 3rd party most of my life, i'm happily voting Trump this year, i'm sick of the bullshit and I know many others like me.
The witnesses on the scene claimed police shot him, straight up lying to incite more violence. They cannot be trusted... even the fucking witnesses always lie to incite this, and it's been going on for years. Hands up, don't shoot! They see the truth, then they fucking lie.
Because these large corporations are fine taking collateral damage knowing that all the small businesses being looted and burned down won’t be coming back.
It is nationally though. Any area with a sufficient quantity of Democrats has seen rioting, vandalism, or at least protesting. I follow plenty of Democrats on social media and they are fully in support of this shit.
Not every city, but anywhere with a large enough Democrat presence has had at least protests. The town I live in has a population of less than 10K and BLM protesters have been here every week since Floyd overdosed. We even have a couple of local businesses that have BLM signs on their storefronts. This is a politically mixed area too that voted for Trump (and we'll fuckin' do it again) in 2016.
The misleadia has a national reach, and their propaganda is radicalizing useful idiots nationally.
This, don't give an inch to these faggots. They will riot, protest, shut down your job, church, family events, over literally ANYTHING to get their stay in power.
Guy was being chased by the cops for being the prime suspect in a murder earlier that day. He ran up to a building, the door was locked, so he took the gun out and shot himself in the head. Blacks started rioting and looting over it. The black girl sitting on the street right next to him was on video later, looting a store.
The media is experienced in manipulating images. I don't like them but I recognize their skill. They just hail mary things and if opposition doesn't come forthright immediately they'll double down and push it to where it's accepted truth before facts come out. They tried this with Kyle and they didn't realize they were too arrogant this time. I hope Kyle gets paid more than Nick Sandman.
Few if any pay attention or care. Let alone remember being duped. I don't know how people still trust msm after knowing they've been duped over and over. It's like a battered wife syndrome. I almost exclusively grew up with, kick it with and work with blacks. Hence my distaste for middle class white liberals. I assure you despite my rapport with them most will ignore facts about Floyd and etc because it's psychologically akin to a child being told Santa isn't real or someone's religion isn't real. They've staked so much into on top of their indoctrination that it's like their world crumbling around them. A friend/co-worker just the other day had the look of a child who's puppy died when I explained that so and so is a sex offender and so and so assaults pregnant women. Having what you perceive as your reality getting challenged is a hard cope.
I live in the south so black people are part of my social circle and routinely interact with them in day to day life. 99% of the time it's nothing, people are people and we're all trying to get through the day.
Finding out GF is a piece of trash with a rap sheet or Jake Blake had a rape warrant makes it seem like all blacks are ass-shit, when in fact most are not. It's not fair at all to make the average black person bear the sins of Floyd or Blake, but that goes down hard because admitting it means you can't force a random white to bear the sins of slavery etc.
I hear you. And you're correct most people of all stripes are just trying to get by in life. I can say white people don't think all blacks are like floyd or jake. But we do know that the majority of blacks blame ALL white people for slavery despite the fact 99 percent of us had nothing to do with it and we tore out country and half over it and over 600,000 of us died. I'm pretty sure apartheid is inevitable.
No, because they are morally and intellectually bankrupt and choose to believe in a false narrative instead of the truth. What really happened in those cases is of no interest to them.
There have been riots in pretty much all of the larger, Democrat controlled cities. They are focusing their efforts in those areas. Even in small towns like the one I live in we have had BLM protests every week since Floyd overdosed on Fentanyl. There was another one here today in fact.
Every time they pull one of their straight up false story tricks they lose hundreds, if not thousands, more people who will never trust the media again.
Funny thing right. If you look at the mechanics for officer Chauvins body when he's ontop of Floyd his right knee is on the ground, left knee over Floyd kneck. His weight is tiled to his right putting his body weight onto his right knee and not into Floyd neck, Floyd's screaming the whole time so he's not being chocked. Chauvin has his knee on they guys neck not his chest so pressure from the method of restraint would not have contributed to the heart attack. I'm not an expert, but I'm not stupid. I may have missed something? I'm not sure, but it looks like bullshit to me.
Totally see your point, I've also learnt from CPR classes that people having heart attacks instinctually lie on their stomachs because it the most comfortable position. Knee on the back would totally have been effective.
It's a weird situation. Everyone's scared, Floyd, the cops, everyone has fear in their eyes because it's obvious something is very wrong with Mr Floyd. Unfortunately he's so god damn high/paranoid it's would have been impossible to recognise any symptoms of overdose or heart attack.
The fear I observed was also from being surrounded by Lookie Lous who were interfering. I have often wondered if those bystanders had just shut the hell up and watched from a distance would Floyd still be alive. Hard to be focused when you have a bunch of unpredictable, no respect for law enforcement, assholes around you screaming at you while you're trying to manage a detainee.
The problem is that most people don't know the difference between what constitutes "excessive force" as far as policy is concerned and the peanut gallery is more connected than ever before and they fire off a billion retarded takes on the situation before any further context is given.
Placing the knee is entirely different from keeping it there for 8 minutes, even after he passed out. I think that will be his biggest problem with this case; would a reasonable person have shifted the hold? It's easy to do.
Issue is not kneel on neck or no. Issue is reasonable behavior. A minute or two while somebody's combative is not the same thing as 8:46 including after the guy passed out.
No. Chauvin's right knee was on top of GF's heart most of the time. Here's the thing though; we have no idea how much weight was on his toes vs his knees. And Chauvin would have a hard time knowing, roo.
Any notion that Chauvin "choked" him like that was always silly, but if you're breathing is restricted already restricting it further is easy and will cause panic.
This is what makes this case so difficult. People learned nothing from Eric Garner's case either.
Someone struggling to breathe will have their breathing disrupted a lot differently and more easily. It's impossible to make any determination after they're dead. You certainly don't have to cause damage to create further restriction. Proving this was enough to kill him? I don't see how. The converse is also true but that's not how the burden of proof works. That makes a weak case
The pressure on his back, right on top of his heart, certainly made his heart work harder. Again I don't see how anybody could determine this did or did not cause death, but it certainly wouldn't have to be so much pressure that it caused the type of damage an autopsy would reveal in order to make his heart work harder. Add both factors together? I don't think you could conclusively prove that alone would be enough to kill him, even with EXD.
Someone else has commented a different idea, criminal neglect contributing to death. I don't know if any such charge exists, but it seems to fit the reality better. Unless GF died of pulmonary edema; I didn't see that until tonight, which seems strange. If this was known from the beginning? AG Ellison is the real criminal.
Almost spot on, except the last bit. When someone on that many drugs and acting like that the correct thing to do is restrain them and wait for the emt with the big syringe full of ketamine.
If only there was some way of doing a blood test during an autopsy for that sort of thing to show how much fentanyl, fentanyl metabolite and methamphetamine he had in him...
He was complaining about breathing before he was even taken out of his car. The guy was probably in early stage cardiac arrest before the police even approached him.
It'll be interesting to see how much weight that argument will be given in Court. Is it enough to create reasonable doubt? If the whole case hinges on that that's really weak and we need to be ready to stop the riots dead in their tracks.
He should have cooperated with police so they didn’t need to restrain him.
It’s almost as if every one of these “heroes” of the “fight against systemic racism” ALL have this in common. It’s amazing how EVERY ONE of these “martyrs” ALL end up dead BECAUSE of their inability to follow instruction, their confrontation with authority, their “systemic criminality” and their fall back of attacking law enforcement.
They aren't allowed to do their job. Local law enforcement is more than capable of putting down these riots in almost every case, and more than willing to do so, but they are ordered to stand down by Democrat politicians.
Joe Rogan called him a murderer? Fuck that stoner dwarf idiot fuck. Derek Chauvin was railroaded I feel so bad for him man, he’s out there dealing with fucking savage animals like George Floyd and his entire life gets thrown into a shit storm because the dumb fucking black guy died from an OD while he was arresting him. FUCK!
Chauvin will have to go off the grid like that cop in the Michael Brown case if he does get an acquittal of the charges or dismissal like he's seeking here.
Yeah I gotta agree with this. Let's not get overzealous guys. He didn't kill Floyd, but he could've avoided this mess if he kept him in the car. Nothing heroic going on here.
People like to overuse the word hero a lot which makes the word null. Calling every cop, soldier, first responder etc a hero just for doing their job is retarded. That word should only be used for medal of honor/freedom recipients and the like.
Yeah also keep in mind him and Floyd worked together at a pretty shady club - El Rancho Nuevo i think it was.....that may have been involved in human trafficking but we may never know since it conveniently burned down during the riots.
Well I don't know about "the moment," but it's hard to say that 8:46 isn't excessive. Scrutinizing that and comparing it to what a reasonable person would do doesn't sound like a murder charge to me though. Especially not if he died of pulmonary edema. If that is true, why are we only hearing about that now? Nothing Chauvin did would cause that. Although it could make it worse in terms of trying to breathe.
Someone else mentioned a charge like criminal negligence contributing to death. I have no idea if such a crime exists but it sounds a lot closer to the situation here.
AG Ellison is the real criminal involved, if he knew pulmonary edema was the cause of death but intentionally withheld that info. We should surround his house at 7AM, 20,000 strong.
Yeah and blm never even asked for it, not once. Despite all their "demands."
This is as fake as can be: plannedriots. Plannedemic.Shampeachment. With orchestrated collapse of financial market in between. I'm waiting to see when they'll show us fake aliens - possibly with real demons.
Exactly. It will be interesting to see what happens now though. It’s seems GEOTUS never stepped into the trap and they never got their Kent State moment. Also the riots in Portland and Wisconsin have suddenly stopped (almost as if centrally coordinated).
Seems they realized that the riots aren’t helping the polls. The question is if they can get all the cats back in the barn if this dude gets acquitted.
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" - Barry Obama
That doesn't mean maintaining the same restraint for 9 minutes even after you know he passed out. He still will be scrutinized against what a reasonable person wouldve done in that situation.
True, but I also read some days ago that one reason that he didn't stop doing the restraint and started doing CPR (which I think he should have begun doing once George Floyd was passed out in a non-horrible situation, CPR seems like the best course of action reg. drug overdose and heart attacks) was that he felt threatened by the crowd surrounding him. I recall that I read that that he felt so threatened that he pulled out his mace. See this thread and this comment: https://thedonald.win/p/GvKLT00A/x/c/15JnG3NPhn . It reminds me of those cases where ambulances are too afraid to move to person(s) in need because they are afraid of being attacked or robbed or worse. I cannot help but think that if one of the bystanders or one of the police officers had successfully directed all except one person of the crowd to disperse, and let that one person stay behind so that person could then video-tape everything, CPR could and/or would have been given much earlier.
In the thread I link to, muslimporn also writes:
Their attention is divided and the threat level is higher. This would have had an inhibiting effect and the cops were also aware the ambulance was only a minute out.
You don’t do CPR on someone with a pulse. EMS didn’t do CPR when they arrived because he was still breathing. Blood drawn at the hospital is marked as being drawn before death.
Are you certain about those things? Pulse as well as breathing? Do you have any sources on those things? A quick search online yields this https://archive.li/S71Pf :
George Floyd was unresponsive and without a pulse by the time he was on the way to the hospital Monday — but first responders and ER personnel refused to give up on him for almost an hour, according to a report.
You don’t do CPR on someone with a pulse. EMS didn’t do CPR when they arrived because he was still breathing. Blood drawn at the hospital is marked as being drawn before death.
And this page describes CPR being done (at the scene or in the ambulance?) as far as I understand it https://archive.li/Tnxe0:
Lane joined emergency responders in the ambulance and began performing CPR on Floyd at the request of emergency personnel, [...]
I mean, it's technically not wrong, but there's no causal link. It would be like saying "Floyd died on May 25 only 2 hours after eating a McChicken sandwich." The temporal link might exist, but there's not necessarily any causation.
“State prosecutors on Friday revealed their intentions to ask for longer prison sentences for all four men” Someone explain presumption of innocence to these attorneys. Obviously the law schools they attended needed to meet some quotas.
lol they are not even going to be able to convict them, seems a bit premature to be talking about longer sentences. seems like they are trying to scare them into taking a deal. hopefully they don't.
It’s different when it’s your neck on the line, but the cases are weak and many of these guys are young. If they are able to get the criminal cases thrown out I have to believe they are eyeing dollar signs as this malicious prosecution has destroyed their LE careers and personal reputations.
This is actually the kind of thing a trial was meant for. If they knee contributed to his death, the officer could be found guilty of some form of murder. If they determine the knee didn't contribute at all then you don't have a crime. The eggshell skull rule means it doesn't matter how high someone is if your actions caused their death.
Their biggest obstacle will be the fact that the knee hold was an approved technique and how the officers were trained. So proving the intend to murder is difficult. He can always argue that he was trained the the hold was safe and he believe Floyd wasn't in any danger. The fact that Floyd was screaming that he couldn't breath before the hold began gives him a decent argument. No intent means no murder.
It's fucked the coroner deem it was a complication arising from subdural restraint combined with heart problems and large amounts of meth and fentinyl in his system.
They teach police to restrain people the way Chauvin did because it puts a very minimal amount of pressure of the detainee.
The fact that Floyd was complaining about breathing problems even before he got out of his car says to me he was already in the early stages of cardiac arrest before the police even approached him.
If Floyd wasn't so god damn high, it would have been obvious he was having a heart attack.
Are you serious. Shortness of breath, pain in the jaw, pain in the right arm, chest pains, heavy sweating ect, ect ect are all early signs of cardiac arrest.
Not pretending to know when the heart attack started, I'm saying his symptoms started before the police even approached the vehicle. Exited delirium sounds alot like meth psycosis (the share symptoms are exactly the same) which is alot more probable than heart attack or exd.
you've got about as much expertise as you do mate, but I'll respect your OPINION all the same because that's what we're doing, sharing opinions. I've done more than 50 CPR and low voltage rescue courses because my work licences require it, that's the position of knowledge Im coming from.
How do you know GF's symptoms started before Police contact? We have no knowledge of that time.
What we do have video evidence of is him trying to get rid of drugs by ingesting it. We also don't know what he was doing with his right hand when the Police contact started. The ironic thing about this is the cop couldve shot him dead then, and nobody'd be fired, let alone charged. I wonder if they ever impounded the vehicle. He couldve just shoved the drugs down between the seat.
The excess drug(s) he took trying to hide evidence from the cop may well be the only reason he OD'd. It's not like he had no experience. He certainly made up his mind he wasn't going back to jail that day, just like the criminal in Kenosha.
I've never heard of meth psycosis, and only heard of EXD via Police discussing this Nationwide.
Another piece of information we don't have is when was CPR started? If immediately in the ambulance that's entirely different than after the 9PM blood draw.
And when was it first made public that he died of pulmonary edema? Or is that false?
Hey mate, thank you for your reply. I'll do my best to address your concerns, but I'm not expert. My level of knowledge comes from having to attend CPR and low voltage rescue for my work licenses. I've don't them every six months for the last 20 years, for context low voltage rescue is basic first aid and triage, which basically mean prioritize cases by severity and symptoms.
I never profess to know when George's heart attack started, but he complains of trouble breathing almost immediately when the police open his door. It's like the second thing he says, his skin also appears ashy and pale and it's noted that Floyd was sweating profusely, all early symptoms of heart attack, also all symptoms if amphetamine abuse.
totally agree, Floyd died of an overdose, what is an opioid overdose. When someone consumes a lethal dose it shuts down the parts of the brain responsible for involanterily functions like breathing and keeping your heart beating once your body hits that threshold you heart will go into fribulation you'll pass out and die.
cpr wont work at this point, you need a defib and certain drugs to keep the patient alive.
pulmonary eodmina basically means heart attack due to drug overdose and or secondary complication
Sounds like heaet attack, opioid OD, and EXD all have a lot of overlap. This would contribute to why Police are trained to do 2 things for EXD: call EMT and restrain the perp. This doesn't explain why they tried CPR. Pretty sure the ambulance wouldve had a defib. Knowing what they did and when are crucial details we don't have.
It seems to me that scrutinizing how long Chauvin maintained that restraint, never changing it, is the most he's subject to. Compare that to what a reasonable person would do. I don't know if any criminal charges should come into play, but I don't know anyone who thinks it's good judgment to hold it for 8:46 while the man passes out and continue after he may be dead for all you know. Good judgment is always part of the job, you can't put everything in the manual. (Old joke: nobody told me not to bounce the baby)
Pulmonary edema is what mountain climbers die of. Your lungs fill with fluid. Why would an OD cause your lungs to fill with fluid? Does that mean something different in this context?
Cardiac problems can cause a subjective feeling of "air hunger". "Dyspnea" and all that. People are correct in pointing out that a swollen/crushed/blocked airway doesn't allow you to articulate that you can't breathe. Hence the existence of a international choking sign. Panic attack also can cause the patient to think they can't breathe.
"Blicked airway" is a bs twrm as you're using it. "People here" saying this bs have NEVER steuggled to breathe and need to STFU about it.
Lungs are HUGE. You can talk, for quite a while, when you can't breathe well enough to survive. You're pretending this is an on/off condition. People don't work like that.
I never thought so. I was even downvoted here for saying that I didn't like Trump calling the family of these thugs that died.
Trump, Tim Scott, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz have pandered since June and the Mob still hasn't stopped.
I actually feel a little bad for this dude. The entire world jumped to conclusions cause we were duped by the media we should have known not to trust in the first place.
At the time of Mr. Floyd’s death — according to the Medical Examiner — his body was experiencing the effects a drug overdose consisting of a lethal level of Fentanyl toxicity.
George Floyd could not breathe because George Floyd’s lungs were full of fluid. That was not caused by Derek Chauvin’s knee across George Floyd’s neck.
[...]
Any prosecutor with significant experience recognizes the problem here. The Medical Examiner will not be able to say the actions of the officers caused the cardiopulmonary arrest which resulted in George Floyd’s death — not given the level of Fentanyl toxicity in this blood. George Floyd’s respiratory system, under the influence of Fentanyl as it was, suffered from pulmonary edema which resulted in cardiopulmonary arrest during the application by the officers of standard techniques of restraint and control. Based on the Report, the Medical Examiner will not be able to testify that, beyond a reasonable doubt, those techniques caused the pulmonary edema that resulted in the cardiopulmonary arrest that killed George Floyd. Nothing about the techniques leads to pulmonary edema. Without that medical testimony, this case never makes it to the jury.
The prosecution of the Charlottesville driver, who struck the girl who died, was purely political. This prosecution will be purely political as well. America has officially become a country where prosecutions have to happen, because otherwise a mob will destroy a city.
Ain't happening (political reasons) but I think it probably should. Even still, I think he has a solid defense. Keep an eye on the trial and stock up on food and other supplies when the verdict is close to being given. I think the second wave of riots will be worse.
Yup don’t know why everyone is praising this guy like he was some sort of saint. Dude was a dumbass and in no context did he have to put his knee on Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes. At most he should get involuntary manslaughter
Yeah, my thoughts really. I don't think we'll ever be able to know how much his actions contributed to Floyd's death.
That's just an unacceptable thing to have to say about a cop. Reckless Endangerment or even Manslaughter or justified. I don't think there's a shred of evidence for intent or even reasonable expectation of death - but he inflicted dangerous suffering.
Funny how the first thing the DA and Judge think about is the size of the riot and how many innocent people will die if the Judge does the right thing and releases Derek.
Mob rule is winning, if they looked at the facts he would be a free man.
The manual doesn't say maintain that restraint for 8:46 while you know he passes out. Chauvin will still be scrutinized for that as compared to what a reasonable person would do.
Imagine just doing your best at your job and then one day you're villianized and sent to jail because they need you to be a pawn in one of the largest psyops in history.
Well, well, well. This just gives us more questions than answers. One has to wonder if this whole shit-show wasn’t just orchestrated from the very beginning.
George Floyd was like a fire-and-forget missile. I really wanna see how this pans out, especially if the charges are dropped and it’s formally announced the initial autopsy was a fucking lie. This was on purpose. No apologies, people are gonna fucking hang for this.
George Floyd was under Cardiac Arrest when he was being arrested he popped a huge amount of Fetenol in his mouth when he was pulled out of his car guy was tripping knee on neck wont kill no broken bones in his neck.
Baby daddy of 5 and lover of party blankets in the slammer... dindu nuffin passing fake bills to buy shit while living the high life on drugs and getting worse from getting covid. Truly a stellar specimen of humankind. Oh yeah and armed battery and robbery of a pregnant woman.
Not sure there was an update to it or what but last thing I kept up with was him chewing on something and someone marking video of him dropping something. Maybe in his panic. He ate the wrong bag? No idea I'm just throwing it out there.
Politically motivated prosecution. Why would they worry about a little thing like the fact JF died of an overdose?
The prosecution is to try to sate the "peaceful protestors". To try to calm the mob. Hell never be convicted (his life is destroyed of course but they don't care about that)
Throw some innocent people under the bus to appease the violent mobs.
He should never have been kneeling on his neck to begin with. There were two other cops restraining him and he was hand cuffed. That is unnecessary escalation of force.
Cry more. The dude was resisting, a very large guy, tweaking on drugs of unknown substance to the responding officers... and a crowd was taunting them. They didn’t want him to break free from the scene and get involved with the crowd.
You are right. We have so many concern trolls here who want to throw Chauvin under the bus. Videos have been posted here about active delirium and people still think that Chauvin Knee killed Floyd.
EXD may include or be indistinguishable from "panic attack." Legitimately having difficulty breathing is extremely likely to create panic, especially if the person hasn't grown accustomed to the condition. Either way, further restricting the breathing of a person already struggling to breathe is guaranteed to create combativeness and panic.
This is exceptionally poor judgment, and it means nobody learned a thing from Eric Garner's case. Stupidity is not supposed to reign supreme.
I believe Floyd had more than enough fentanyl in his system to kill 3 people and he said he couldn’t breathe well before he was ever put on the ground with a knee to his neck. He even apparently asked to be put on the ground.
Case closed. He should have cooperated with police so they didn’t need to restrain him.
I think they’d just find some other bullshit video to go riot about like the Jacob Blake one that came out recently. These vidoes are gonna keep coming out as thugs get shot and restrained while refusing to cooperate with law enforcement.
They'd just find something else. None of this is logical, it's just finding some example to use as a beard so they can riot, loot, and cause mayhem.
Yep, like Weiner is Huma’s beard.
Hmmmmmmm.
Well chauvin did a little wrong but he didnt kill the guy more than the fentanyl in him
Yeah... it used to be used to refer to homosexual males who married a woman to belay any suspicions. She would become his “beard” making people think he isn’t really so light in the loafers.
Well shit. Learn something new every day. Never thought it would be this, but we trudge on....
“Tom tried to touch my cock last night at that barbeque. Is he gay or some shit?”
“No he’s married to Christine, bit who the fuck knows? Maybe she’s just a beard”
Yeah, it’s a noun. Note it also works for straight men married to lesbians.
It is now
Yep, they have reached a point where any black person injured or killed in any interaction with police, regardless of the circumstances, is an excuse for them to commit acts of terrorism.
Hell, they rioted over a guy committing suicide in Minneapolis the other night. In most of their minds, Trump being president is excuse enough to commit terrorism. Now you've got cunt authors getting NPR coverage justifying looting.
I've voted 3rd party most of my life, i'm happily voting Trump this year, i'm sick of the bullshit and I know many others like me.
Yeah, and they conveniently leave out he was being chased as a murder suspect using the same gun he shot himself with.
Our country is burning because of the worst criminals on the street...well, being the worst criminals on the streets.
Right Wing Death Squads will be needed soon.
The witnesses on the scene claimed police shot him, straight up lying to incite more violence. They cannot be trusted... even the fucking witnesses always lie to incite this, and it's been going on for years. Hands up, don't shoot! They see the truth, then they fucking lie.
They actually skipped the riot and went straight to loot when the guy killed himself.
Because these large corporations are fine taking collateral damage knowing that all the small businesses being looted and burned down won’t be coming back.
And that is how they will loose all sympathy from normies. After which they will be seen as the violent animals they are.
Agreed. They have lost the normies already with all of their violence and terrorism.
It is nationally though. Any area with a sufficient quantity of Democrats has seen rioting, vandalism, or at least protesting. I follow plenty of Democrats on social media and they are fully in support of this shit.
Is it really national? Every city? Are you sure you're not giving in to media induced panic?
Anyway if they freak out over cops killing one, wait until we start killing hundreds in every city.
They're getting there. There was a riot in Sacramento yesterday. Did you hear about it? No? Wonder why.
Not every city, but anywhere with a large enough Democrat presence has had at least protests. The town I live in has a population of less than 10K and BLM protesters have been here every week since Floyd overdosed. We even have a couple of local businesses that have BLM signs on their storefronts. This is a politically mixed area too that voted for Trump (and we'll fuckin' do it again) in 2016.
The misleadia has a national reach, and their propaganda is radicalizing useful idiots nationally.
Username checks out!
I kid, I kid. Cheers!
Wasn't there a riot in Minneapolis the other day where they did it because a black guy killed his own self without any cop around?
Just redirect all the welfare money to buy plane tickets to Africa. Solves everybody's problem.
This, don't give an inch to these faggots. They will riot, protest, shut down your job, church, family events, over literally ANYTHING to get their stay in power.
I missed this guy who killed himself. What the whut now?
Guy was being chased by the cops for being the prime suspect in a murder earlier that day. He ran up to a building, the door was locked, so he took the gun out and shot himself in the head. Blacks started rioting and looting over it. The black girl sitting on the street right next to him was on video later, looting a store.
So Courts will now be held hostage every time there's a suicide. I see.
We could end this madness.
Are these people that low-IQ, or simply really emotional?
Both
Jussie smolley was a fail
Ahmaud "the jogger" Arbury was a fail
They found the image they needed and ran with it.
The media is experienced in manipulating images. I don't like them but I recognize their skill. They just hail mary things and if opposition doesn't come forthright immediately they'll double down and push it to where it's accepted truth before facts come out. They tried this with Kyle and they didn't realize they were too arrogant this time. I hope Kyle gets paid more than Nick Sandman.
Few if any pay attention or care. Let alone remember being duped. I don't know how people still trust msm after knowing they've been duped over and over. It's like a battered wife syndrome. I almost exclusively grew up with, kick it with and work with blacks. Hence my distaste for middle class white liberals. I assure you despite my rapport with them most will ignore facts about Floyd and etc because it's psychologically akin to a child being told Santa isn't real or someone's religion isn't real. They've staked so much into on top of their indoctrination that it's like their world crumbling around them. A friend/co-worker just the other day had the look of a child who's puppy died when I explained that so and so is a sex offender and so and so assaults pregnant women. Having what you perceive as your reality getting challenged is a hard cope.
Jordan Peterson is fantastic
there's more to it
I live in the south so black people are part of my social circle and routinely interact with them in day to day life. 99% of the time it's nothing, people are people and we're all trying to get through the day.
Finding out GF is a piece of trash with a rap sheet or Jake Blake had a rape warrant makes it seem like all blacks are ass-shit, when in fact most are not. It's not fair at all to make the average black person bear the sins of Floyd or Blake, but that goes down hard because admitting it means you can't force a random white to bear the sins of slavery etc.
TLDR Commies get the helicopter
I hear you. And you're correct most people of all stripes are just trying to get by in life. I can say white people don't think all blacks are like floyd or jake. But we do know that the majority of blacks blame ALL white people for slavery despite the fact 99 percent of us had nothing to do with it and we tore out country and half over it and over 600,000 of us died. I'm pretty sure apartheid is inevitable.
No, because they are morally and intellectually bankrupt and choose to believe in a false narrative instead of the truth. What really happened in those cases is of no interest to them.
There have been riots in pretty much all of the larger, Democrat controlled cities. They are focusing their efforts in those areas. Even in small towns like the one I live in we have had BLM protests every week since Floyd overdosed on Fentanyl. There was another one here today in fact.
Every time they pull one of their straight up false story tricks they lose hundreds, if not thousands, more people who will never trust the media again.
Oh no, a black felon died of a heart attack while being arrested?
Better burn the entire country to the ground!
Funny thing right. If you look at the mechanics for officer Chauvins body when he's ontop of Floyd his right knee is on the ground, left knee over Floyd kneck. His weight is tiled to his right putting his body weight onto his right knee and not into Floyd neck, Floyd's screaming the whole time so he's not being chocked. Chauvin has his knee on they guys neck not his chest so pressure from the method of restraint would not have contributed to the heart attack. I'm not an expert, but I'm not stupid. I may have missed something? I'm not sure, but it looks like bullshit to me.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:George_Floyd_neck_knelt_on_by_police_officer.png
Totally see your point, I've also learnt from CPR classes that people having heart attacks instinctually lie on their stomachs because it the most comfortable position. Knee on the back would totally have been effective.
It's a weird situation. Everyone's scared, Floyd, the cops, everyone has fear in their eyes because it's obvious something is very wrong with Mr Floyd. Unfortunately he's so god damn high/paranoid it's would have been impossible to recognise any symptoms of overdose or heart attack.
The fear I observed was also from being surrounded by Lookie Lous who were interfering. I have often wondered if those bystanders had just shut the hell up and watched from a distance would Floyd still be alive. Hard to be focused when you have a bunch of unpredictable, no respect for law enforcement, assholes around you screaming at you while you're trying to manage a detainee.
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The signs of EXD are all there and they mentioned it at least once, briefly
The problem is that most people don't know the difference between what constitutes "excessive force" as far as policy is concerned and the peanut gallery is more connected than ever before and they fire off a billion retarded takes on the situation before any further context is given.
Placing the knee is entirely different from keeping it there for 8 minutes, even after he passed out. I think that will be his biggest problem with this case; would a reasonable person have shifted the hold? It's easy to do.
Issue is not kneel on neck or no. Issue is reasonable behavior. A minute or two while somebody's combative is not the same thing as 8:46 including after the guy passed out.
No. Chauvin's right knee was on top of GF's heart most of the time. Here's the thing though; we have no idea how much weight was on his toes vs his knees. And Chauvin would have a hard time knowing, roo.
Any notion that Chauvin "choked" him like that was always silly, but if you're breathing is restricted already restricting it further is easy and will cause panic.
This is what makes this case so difficult. People learned nothing from Eric Garner's case either.
Someone struggling to breathe will have their breathing disrupted a lot differently and more easily. It's impossible to make any determination after they're dead. You certainly don't have to cause damage to create further restriction. Proving this was enough to kill him? I don't see how. The converse is also true but that's not how the burden of proof works. That makes a weak case
The pressure on his back, right on top of his heart, certainly made his heart work harder. Again I don't see how anybody could determine this did or did not cause death, but it certainly wouldn't have to be so much pressure that it caused the type of damage an autopsy would reveal in order to make his heart work harder. Add both factors together? I don't think you could conclusively prove that alone would be enough to kill him, even with EXD.
Someone else has commented a different idea, criminal neglect contributing to death. I don't know if any such charge exists, but it seems to fit the reality better. Unless GF died of pulmonary edema; I didn't see that until tonight, which seems strange. If this was known from the beginning? AG Ellison is the real criminal.
Let's also talk about where the fentanyl is coming from. If you think the country's name starts with a Ch and ends with ina you are correct.
Patton said we should've went to Moscow. This may the inevitable end.
Almost spot on, except the last bit. When someone on that many drugs and acting like that the correct thing to do is restrain them and wait for the emt with the big syringe full of ketamine.
hard to know how much drugs he is on. he could have just been a schizophrenic/crazy.
Yeah it seems to me that if the cops did that for every tweaker they deal with then the ambulances would never stop.
If only there was some way of doing a blood test during an autopsy for that sort of thing to show how much fentanyl, fentanyl metabolite and methamphetamine he had in him...
Fentanyl 11 ng/mL
Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL
4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL
Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL
they didn't do the test, and get the results, while they were arresting him you dumbass.
Chauvin worked with Floyd, you don't think he would've been aware of any schizophrenia?
You can clearly see in the first video Floyd's declining mental condition that is textbook exds.
He was complaining about breathing before he was even taken out of his car. The guy was probably in early stage cardiac arrest before the police even approached him.
It'll be interesting to see how much weight that argument will be given in Court. Is it enough to create reasonable doubt? If the whole case hinges on that that's really weak and we need to be ready to stop the riots dead in their tracks.
It’s almost as if every one of these “heroes” of the “fight against systemic racism” ALL have this in common. It’s amazing how EVERY ONE of these “martyrs” ALL end up dead BECAUSE of their inability to follow instruction, their confrontation with authority, their “systemic criminality” and their fall back of attacking law enforcement.
Once they drop his charges, the riots will be insane.
And hopefully we will get 10 Kyles to stand up to the arsonists.
Kyle 2.0 Will DWARF the Commie Slaying of the OG Kyle
Save some for the rest of us!!
I hope 5 Kyles lock together like Voltron to form a Mega Kyle commie asskicking machine.
They join together to form MAGATron
We'll need at least one in every city town and village. Hundreds, if not thousands. 300:1 ratio
Is there anything left in their cities for them to burn?
Yes.
the resistance will be insane too
They aren't allowed to do their job. Local law enforcement is more than capable of putting down these riots in almost every case, and more than willing to do so, but they are ordered to stand down by Democrat politicians.
Member when cops and/or the mafia or hells angels would beat dirty hippies bloody for disrespecting the US?
Those sound like wonderful days.
and eventually some facebook event to harass someone in their home is going to end with a drum magazine
And every media personality who called him a murderer. Like Rogan the cuck.
Rush, Levin, Jones are all guilty of this btw
Anyone who doesn't only assume innocence until it’s proven guilty deserves the blowback.
Fuck off of them.
Joe Rogan called him a murderer? Fuck that stoner dwarf idiot fuck. Derek Chauvin was railroaded I feel so bad for him man, he’s out there dealing with fucking savage animals like George Floyd and his entire life gets thrown into a shit storm because the dumb fucking black guy died from an OD while he was arresting him. FUCK!
Chauvin will have to go off the grid like that cop in the Michael Brown case if he does get an acquittal of the charges or dismissal like he's seeking here.
How is he in any way a hero? Dude just put his knee on a druggies neck for 8 minutes.
Yeah I gotta agree with this. Let's not get overzealous guys. He didn't kill Floyd, but he could've avoided this mess if he kept him in the car. Nothing heroic going on here.
People like to overuse the word hero a lot which makes the word null. Calling every cop, soldier, first responder etc a hero just for doing their job is retarded. That word should only be used for medal of honor/freedom recipients and the like.
Yeah also keep in mind him and Floyd worked together at a pretty shady club - El Rancho Nuevo i think it was.....that may have been involved in human trafficking but we may never know since it conveniently burned down during the riots.
Not a single cop supports what Chauvin did.
Bongino said that the moment you restrain the perp you flip them on their side at the very least.
Well I don't know about "the moment," but it's hard to say that 8:46 isn't excessive. Scrutinizing that and comparing it to what a reasonable person would do doesn't sound like a murder charge to me though. Especially not if he died of pulmonary edema. If that is true, why are we only hearing about that now? Nothing Chauvin did would cause that. Although it could make it worse in terms of trying to breathe.
Agreed. Asshole? Yes. Murderer? I don't think so. Should he be charged with something like criminal negligence? Probably.
And we all know why the pulmonary edema was never mentioned before....
Someone else mentioned a charge like criminal negligence contributing to death. I have no idea if such a crime exists but it sounds a lot closer to the situation here.
AG Ellison is the real criminal involved, if he knew pulmonary edema was the cause of death but intentionally withheld that info. We should surround his house at 7AM, 20,000 strong.
That shitbag also waited to put out the police cam video as well.
Yeah and blm never even asked for it, not once. Despite all their "demands."
This is as fake as can be: plannedriots. Plannedemic.Shampeachment. With orchestrated collapse of financial market in between. I'm waiting to see when they'll show us fake aliens - possibly with real demons.
This is their plan all along... charges dismissed before the election
Exactly. It will be interesting to see what happens now though. It’s seems GEOTUS never stepped into the trap and they never got their Kent State moment. Also the riots in Portland and Wisconsin have suddenly stopped (almost as if centrally coordinated).
Seems they realized that the riots aren’t helping the polls. The question is if they can get all the cats back in the barn if this dude gets acquitted.
They have no control over the hoods. They can avoid busing in Antifa but shit can still end up looking like Black Hawk Down pretty fast.
ANTIFA has literally become the Paramilitary Wing of the Democrat Party.
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" - Barry Obama
I mean they have become the Brown Shirt’s of the Democrat Party.
According to Wikipedia, the only other group that could constitute a “Democrat Paramilitary” were the Red Shirts of Reconstruction South Carolina.
This would help us. The riots are working for us now.
I've thought this, but wasn't sure how they were going to expedite Chauvin being found not guilty. I still think Chauvin is in on the whole thing
The police in Minneapolis were LITERALLY trained to do what he did...
What the fuck did they expect him to do?
Yup, and here's the archive source for it in case anyone is interested: http://archive.li/gncPE . Search for "neck restraint".
That doesn't mean maintaining the same restraint for 9 minutes even after you know he passed out. He still will be scrutinized against what a reasonable person wouldve done in that situation.
True, but I also read some days ago that one reason that he didn't stop doing the restraint and started doing CPR (which I think he should have begun doing once George Floyd was passed out in a non-horrible situation, CPR seems like the best course of action reg. drug overdose and heart attacks) was that he felt threatened by the crowd surrounding him. I recall that I read that that he felt so threatened that he pulled out his mace. See this thread and this comment: https://thedonald.win/p/GvKLT00A/x/c/15JnG3NPhn . It reminds me of those cases where ambulances are too afraid to move to person(s) in need because they are afraid of being attacked or robbed or worse. I cannot help but think that if one of the bystanders or one of the police officers had successfully directed all except one person of the crowd to disperse, and let that one person stay behind so that person could then video-tape everything, CPR could and/or would have been given much earlier.
In the thread I link to, muslimporn also writes:
You don’t do CPR on someone with a pulse. EMS didn’t do CPR when they arrived because he was still breathing. Blood drawn at the hospital is marked as being drawn before death.
Are you certain about those things? Pulse as well as breathing? Do you have any sources on those things? A quick search online yields this https://archive.li/S71Pf :
And this page describes CPR being done (at the scene or in the ambulance?) as far as I understand it https://archive.li/Tnxe0:
(As a side-note, I don't understand why you have been downvoted this heavily, I upvoted your comment).
Under the auspices of a black police chief, BTW
The CNN article is classic fake news.
I mean, it's technically not wrong, but there's no causal link. It would be like saying "Floyd died on May 25 only 2 hours after eating a McChicken sandwich." The temporal link might exist, but there's not necessarily any causation.
So are we burning McDonald's down? I've only got pitchforks here... /s
Typical leftist, leaving out extremely important details. They do it on purpose.
Millions of people died after January 20, 2009, when Barack Obama was inaugurated as President of the United States.
Just as accurate as what ☪️NN wrote.
“State prosecutors on Friday revealed their intentions to ask for longer prison sentences for all four men” Someone explain presumption of innocence to these attorneys. Obviously the law schools they attended needed to meet some quotas.
lol they are not even going to be able to convict them, seems a bit premature to be talking about longer sentences. seems like they are trying to scare them into taking a deal. hopefully they don't.
It’s different when it’s your neck on the line, but the cases are weak and many of these guys are young. If they are able to get the criminal cases thrown out I have to believe they are eyeing dollar signs as this malicious prosecution has destroyed their LE careers and personal reputations.
This is actually the kind of thing a trial was meant for. If they knee contributed to his death, the officer could be found guilty of some form of murder. If they determine the knee didn't contribute at all then you don't have a crime. The eggshell skull rule means it doesn't matter how high someone is if your actions caused their death.
Their biggest obstacle will be the fact that the knee hold was an approved technique and how the officers were trained. So proving the intend to murder is difficult. He can always argue that he was trained the the hold was safe and he believe Floyd wasn't in any danger. The fact that Floyd was screaming that he couldn't breath before the hold began gives him a decent argument. No intent means no murder.
Chauvin has made one crucial mistake, he forgot this is clown-world
It's fucked the coroner deem it was a complication arising from subdural restraint combined with heart problems and large amounts of meth and fentinyl in his system.
They teach police to restrain people the way Chauvin did because it puts a very minimal amount of pressure of the detainee.
The fact that Floyd was complaining about breathing problems even before he got out of his car says to me he was already in the early stages of cardiac arrest before the police even approached him.
If Floyd wasn't so god damn high, it would have been obvious he was having a heart attack.
His friend even yelled to him stop resisting he will give himself a heart attack
Breathing problems are not synonymous with heart attack.
Are you serious. Shortness of breath, pain in the jaw, pain in the right arm, chest pains, heavy sweating ect, ect ect are all early signs of cardiac arrest.
EXD is more likely. Which raises likelihood of heart attack. Don't even pretend to know when his heart attack started, Doctor
Not pretending to know when the heart attack started, I'm saying his symptoms started before the police even approached the vehicle. Exited delirium sounds alot like meth psycosis (the share symptoms are exactly the same) which is alot more probable than heart attack or exd.
you've got about as much expertise as you do mate, but I'll respect your OPINION all the same because that's what we're doing, sharing opinions. I've done more than 50 CPR and low voltage rescue courses because my work licences require it, that's the position of knowledge Im coming from.
How do you know GF's symptoms started before Police contact? We have no knowledge of that time.
What we do have video evidence of is him trying to get rid of drugs by ingesting it. We also don't know what he was doing with his right hand when the Police contact started. The ironic thing about this is the cop couldve shot him dead then, and nobody'd be fired, let alone charged. I wonder if they ever impounded the vehicle. He couldve just shoved the drugs down between the seat.
The excess drug(s) he took trying to hide evidence from the cop may well be the only reason he OD'd. It's not like he had no experience. He certainly made up his mind he wasn't going back to jail that day, just like the criminal in Kenosha.
I've never heard of meth psycosis, and only heard of EXD via Police discussing this Nationwide.
Another piece of information we don't have is when was CPR started? If immediately in the ambulance that's entirely different than after the 9PM blood draw.
And when was it first made public that he died of pulmonary edema? Or is that false?
Hey mate, thank you for your reply. I'll do my best to address your concerns, but I'm not expert. My level of knowledge comes from having to attend CPR and low voltage rescue for my work licenses. I've don't them every six months for the last 20 years, for context low voltage rescue is basic first aid and triage, which basically mean prioritize cases by severity and symptoms.
I never profess to know when George's heart attack started, but he complains of trouble breathing almost immediately when the police open his door. It's like the second thing he says, his skin also appears ashy and pale and it's noted that Floyd was sweating profusely, all early symptoms of heart attack, also all symptoms if amphetamine abuse.
totally agree, Floyd died of an overdose, what is an opioid overdose. When someone consumes a lethal dose it shuts down the parts of the brain responsible for involanterily functions like breathing and keeping your heart beating once your body hits that threshold you heart will go into fribulation you'll pass out and die.
cpr wont work at this point, you need a defib and certain drugs to keep the patient alive.
pulmonary eodmina basically means heart attack due to drug overdose and or secondary complication
Is defib the "low voltage" part of the training?
Sounds like heaet attack, opioid OD, and EXD all have a lot of overlap. This would contribute to why Police are trained to do 2 things for EXD: call EMT and restrain the perp. This doesn't explain why they tried CPR. Pretty sure the ambulance wouldve had a defib. Knowing what they did and when are crucial details we don't have.
It seems to me that scrutinizing how long Chauvin maintained that restraint, never changing it, is the most he's subject to. Compare that to what a reasonable person would do. I don't know if any criminal charges should come into play, but I don't know anyone who thinks it's good judgment to hold it for 8:46 while the man passes out and continue after he may be dead for all you know. Good judgment is always part of the job, you can't put everything in the manual. (Old joke: nobody told me not to bounce the baby)
Pulmonary edema is what mountain climbers die of. Your lungs fill with fluid. Why would an OD cause your lungs to fill with fluid? Does that mean something different in this context?
Cardiac problems can cause a subjective feeling of "air hunger". "Dyspnea" and all that. People are correct in pointing out that a swollen/crushed/blocked airway doesn't allow you to articulate that you can't breathe. Hence the existence of a international choking sign. Panic attack also can cause the patient to think they can't breathe.
"Blicked airway" is a bs twrm as you're using it. "People here" saying this bs have NEVER steuggled to breathe and need to STFU about it.
Lungs are HUGE. You can talk, for quite a while, when you can't breathe well enough to survive. You're pretending this is an on/off condition. People don't work like that.
How many years of medical education do you have?
How many years of struggling to breathe when medical science says you should be dead do you have?
I have 40. You know nothing but what's in a stupid textbook. You might as well be smugly arguing about Mars. With a Martian.
This is good. If the charges are dropped before the election we could see a level 5 chimp out. Would be riots everywhere. Trump would surge.
Very true. dem plan backfiring
Could also suppress R voter turnout by 80%
It wasn't that long ago that everyone here thought Chauvin was a murderer.
I mean can you blame anyone? We had no info or context except for the video of Chauvin kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes.
I didn't. I always maintained that one didn't kill. He never appeared to have much pressure on him.
I never thought so. I was even downvoted here for saying that I didn't like Trump calling the family of these thugs that died. Trump, Tim Scott, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz have pandered since June and the Mob still hasn't stopped.
I actually feel a little bad for this dude. The entire world jumped to conclusions cause we were duped by the media we should have known not to trust in the first place.
Great explainer from a 22-year prosecutor, current defense attorney.
Why didn't we hear he died of pulmonary edema?
Because then CNN couldn’t add fuel to the Race War they are trying to start.
I haven't heard this before that's crazy. Him saying "I can't breathe" is literally evidence of fetanyl OD.
The full video has him shouting that before the knee hold even starts too.
The prosecution of the Charlottesville driver, who struck the girl who died, was purely political. This prosecution will be purely political as well. America has officially become a country where prosecutions have to happen, because otherwise a mob will destroy a city.
We are all Kyle! We can put down the feral dogs
Ain't happening (political reasons) but I think it probably should. Even still, I think he has a solid defense. Keep an eye on the trial and stock up on food and other supplies when the verdict is close to being given. I think the second wave of riots will be worse.
Don't be crazy like BLM. They shouldn't have sainted Floyd. We shouldn't saint Chauvin.
Chauvin was a smooth-brain, reg-trundling loser who did his job under a pal of ignorance and disregard for the people he was dealing with.
He was NOT a murderer. He was NOT a hero.
Yup don’t know why everyone is praising this guy like he was some sort of saint. Dude was a dumbass and in no context did he have to put his knee on Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes. At most he should get involuntary manslaughter
Yeah, my thoughts really. I don't think we'll ever be able to know how much his actions contributed to Floyd's death.
That's just an unacceptable thing to have to say about a cop. Reckless Endangerment or even Manslaughter or justified. I don't think there's a shred of evidence for intent or even reasonable expectation of death - but he inflicted dangerous suffering.
Funny how the first thing the DA and Judge think about is the size of the riot and how many innocent people will die if the Judge does the right thing and releases Derek.
Mob rule is winning, if they looked at the facts he would be a free man.
yep. if you let the mob's threat of violence affect justice, then you have mob rule
This is a feature, not a bug
How about all the MPD training material on non-lethal neck restraint? He was just following what he was taught and what was allowed by policy.
Unfortunately, he has a punchable face and made an awful video. No way he should be charged with, nevermind convicted of murder.
Weird you want to punch him.
The manual doesn't say maintain that restraint for 8:46 while you know he passes out. Chauvin will still be scrutinized for that as compared to what a reasonable person would do.
I feel so fucking bad for this guy and his family. Imagine working the beat in a shitty city, and this is the thanks you get.
Maybe police should stop botbering to protect these neighborhoods, and let the population self-resolve.
There are going to be more riots unless a (more or less) innocent man goes to jail.
Awesome. :/
Get this dailymail trash off of thedonald, they can't even complete sentences without leaving words out.
common sense would say thats the case...we not much of that is going around
I was massively disappointed in Levin, Rush, etc condemning Chauvin before all the facts had come out
Sadly, if the charges get dismissed, even though they should, this will backfire bigtime.
A win lose situation for us.
They plan to let Derek Chauvin walk just prior to the election so that the shitlib commie race baiters can riot even more in the streets.
Imagine just doing your best at your job and then one day you're villianized and sent to jail because they need you to be a pawn in one of the largest psyops in history.
The riots of acquittal will be beyond what has been seen today. Republican landslide incoming.
blm will be blocking every voting location they possibly can. This scenario would only increase that. Coordinate a response with your LEOs in advance.
more like a month. give them some time to burn the cities
I don't believe that the judge will dismiss this, I think they all just want to please the mob.
Hey, it worked for Covid.
Multiple GSW's and a sniffle? Covid!
Hell is going to break loose if he gets off
Well, well, well. This just gives us more questions than answers. One has to wonder if this whole shit-show wasn’t just orchestrated from the very beginning.
George Floyd was like a fire-and-forget missile. I really wanna see how this pans out, especially if the charges are dropped and it’s formally announced the initial autopsy was a fucking lie. This was on purpose. No apologies, people are gonna fucking hang for this.
No they wont. They should, but we live in clown world
I think they are going to let Chauvin walk near the end of October and try to stir the election pot more.
Chauvin was overcharged intentionally so he will be exonerated and then a new wave of riots can begin.
There is no way this guy goes to jail after watching the bodycam footage.
Wanna bet? An innocent cop get railroaded then murdered in prison is a sacrifice they will gladly make
The jury will be compromised
George Floyd was under Cardiac Arrest when he was being arrested he popped a huge amount of Fetenol in his mouth when he was pulled out of his car guy was tripping knee on neck wont kill no broken bones in his neck.
Even if the fentanyl wasn’t enough to kill, his lawyer would try this angle
Because lawyers are the king of living the idea “you miss every shot you don’t take”
This isn’t news really.
Granted I think Floyd overdosed
I mean its documented fact that he OD’d. There is no more “think” or opinions or guesses that are relevant to the situation now that its out on paper.
Does the left even remember his name? I havent heard
I love how the image of George describes him as a “father of five”.
Forget about the pregnant women he pulled a gun on, fuck the media and their bullshit trying to paint this drug addict as a victim.
Baby daddy of 5 and lover of party blankets in the slammer... dindu nuffin passing fake bills to buy shit while living the high life on drugs and getting worse from getting covid. Truly a stellar specimen of humankind. Oh yeah and armed battery and robbery of a pregnant woman.
This guy is not going to get a fair trial. We all know what will happen if he is not found guilty.
We all knew this was coming
The real killers.
Not sure there was an update to it or what but last thing I kept up with was him chewing on something and someone marking video of him dropping something. Maybe in his panic. He ate the wrong bag? No idea I'm just throwing it out there.
Politically motivated prosecution. Why would they worry about a little thing like the fact JF died of an overdose?
The prosecution is to try to sate the "peaceful protestors". To try to calm the mob. Hell never be convicted (his life is destroyed of course but they don't care about that)
Throw some innocent people under the bus to appease the violent mobs.
He should never have been kneeling on his neck to begin with. There were two other cops restraining him and he was hand cuffed. That is unnecessary escalation of force.
Cry more. The dude was resisting, a very large guy, tweaking on drugs of unknown substance to the responding officers... and a crowd was taunting them. They didn’t want him to break free from the scene and get involved with the crowd.
You are right. We have so many concern trolls here who want to throw Chauvin under the bus. Videos have been posted here about active delirium and people still think that Chauvin Knee killed Floyd.
Spelled his name wrong. It’s spelled ‘Fentanyl Floyd.’ 😁
Also:
EXD may include or be indistinguishable from "panic attack." Legitimately having difficulty breathing is extremely likely to create panic, especially if the person hasn't grown accustomed to the condition. Either way, further restricting the breathing of a person already struggling to breathe is guaranteed to create combativeness and panic.
This is exceptionally poor judgment, and it means nobody learned a thing from Eric Garner's case. Stupidity is not supposed to reign supreme.