HAPPENING NOW: People have gathered near the State House in Boston to protest the mandatory flu shot for all students in Massachusetts, from child care to college.
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posted ago by TrudopesEyebrow
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This is worth protesting.
I've always been strongly pro-vaccine. Usually no more substance to the fears than msg or gluten. But with the democrats lawlessness and the medical community's willingness to lay down for them as in the HCQ debate with their policies leading to many unnecessary deaths and hearing of forced hormone treatments on children, you can't help but wonder what other craziness they might try.
I'm pro-vaccine in most instances, but it should NEVER be compulsory. People have the right to put what they want into their own bodies.
Agreed, but generally objecting to vaccinations is solid proof someone is just an idiot rather than being reasoned or principled. I'd hate having to side with the ignorant just because they really are out to get us.
Because flu vaccines are just so damn effective lmao. Hur dur ignorant
Flu vaccines are damn effective, and yet many people still get the "flu". Tell me why that is, if you can...
Don't think of it as siding with the ignorant, think of it as siding with the free.
You think receiving 8 vaccines at once, putting 750 mcg, or almost a full MG of aluminum directly into a child's bloodstream at 2 months of age is a good idea?
Maybe you should do some research before calling those that have, ignorant
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17300950
Here is a peer-reviewed study that reviews alum use as an adjuvant in pediatric vaccines and does account for body weight and a multitude of other factors. The majority of the alum in a vaccine isn't even absorbed by the body due to its formulation, and compared with other sources of aluminum in your life (baked goods, cheeses, etc) is completely safe.
Here is the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia's page on the matter- it's really well-written for a layperson.
Any article comparing aluminium from food sources is bs propaganda to begin with. Only 1% of aluminum absorbed through the digestive tract makes it to the bloodstream and they know that
Now tell us about the mercury
Mercury hasn't been used in childhood vaccinations since 2001, and most childhood vaccinations never contained mercury at all. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/index.html
freevortex appears correct:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vaccine_ingredients
What 8 vaccines? I got maxed out on vaccines for travel as a kid, and they were spread out. As an adult, I can't get more than two vaccines at a time, even if I want them.
Hep B. 250mcg aluminum
DTap 5 in 1 350mcg
Prevnar 150mcg
Rotavirus oral 0mcg
From the article: On Day 1 of life, infants receive 17 times more aluminum than would be allowed if doses were adjusted per body weight.
They receive Hep B on day 1. Ask yourself why they are so eager to vaccinate a newborn against a virus that is only spread sexually or by blood to blood contact.
By 6 months they will have received over 2.25MG of aluminum
"You think receiving 8 vaccines at once, putting 750 mcg, or almost a full MG of aluminum directly into a child's bloodstream at 2 months of age is a good idea?"
It must do wonders based on that child's life expectancy vs un-vaccinated populations. It doesn't have to be perfect if it's better than nothing.
I'm not entirely sure honestly but I don't think the flu shot is a vaccine.
Never mind, just did research, it's a vaccine but you have to get it every year instead of once in your life like most of them.
Pharmacist here. Just because you usually only get childhood vaccines in your childhood does not mean that they last forever. Most adults when tested do not have immunity against those diseases even though they've been vaccinated as a child. Vaccines don't last forever.
The flu vaccine is yearly not only because of decreased immunity over time, but also because there are many strains of the flu and the same strains are not most prevalent each year, meaning it's effectively a different virus each year.
Please don't take this as offense, pede, because it's not really your fault, but the fact that you don't even know whether the flu shot is a vaccine or not really shows how much our education system has failed us as a country. If we replaced the useless health classes in high school taught by a coach or other equally unknowledgeable person with an actual health basics class, think about how we could have avoided most of the misinformation during this "pandemic". If, instead of spending weeks scaring kids over STDs and teaching little else, what if we taught health literacy? What if we taught kids how to eat healthy and why, how to avoid diabetes and coronary artery disease, the basics of germ theory, the difference between a virus and a bacterium, how your immune system works, in addition to how not to get the clap or have a kid... And why don't we teach these basics of how to live a healthy lifestyle??
I mean heck, every time I see someone walking down the street completely alone with a mask on, I wonder what they think a virus actually is. Do they think it's just floating around in the atmosphere like oxygen? Do they even know how a virus works?? Or how a mask works (or doesn't, as the case may be)? And is it really even their fault if they don't know? How would they ever have learned, if they had a shitty science teacher more focused on social justice than on science, and no health education to speak of?
The number one issue in the vast majority of my patients is poor health literacy. My type 2 diabetic has just never been taught that sugar is what's killing him, because the media wages a war on fat instead. The grandma with edematous legs and a 35% ejection fraction thinks that salt is her enemy, but stops taking her Lasix because "it makes me pee too much"... How much better would these peoples' lives be if someone actually stopped to explain things to them?
To my credit I did research after I left the comment and educated myself, left my original comment up and clarified for anyone else who might have been in the same position. I was in high school in the late 90s. I've forgotten most of what I learned there but even if I hadn't, I don't think we talked much about flu shots. The rest of your comment is spot on, especially regarding educating the public. Keep doing what you're doing, even comments here helps people grow their knowledge.
Absolutely to your credit! And that's the difference between trumplicans and demonrats. We do research if we realize we don't know something. They just make decisions based on their feelings. Keep on keeping on!
Edit: also I really love how people can just have normal discourse on this site without a fight or an argument. I appreciate that so much. I hope everyone who reads this has a wonderful day :)
Shut up with your words and your saying things and not having the exact frame of mind as me constantly.
I WANNA BE MAD! NOT HEALTHY!
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I'm at the point where I don't really trust anything I read online other than TDW, but I do trust then verify when I read anything here.
However, I feel like when I read something online then go elsewhere and read something on the same subject, the information changes to the point where that website has "debunked" the first website I just came from.
So with that said, do you have any resources that you relies on, that would be helpful for me to understand because I have a parent who is currently taking Lasix and they are saying they hate it so much. I want to be educated as much as possible so I can help my parent understand the condition they have that may require them to take Lasix or whatever. Edematous legs is what my parent has right now and if there's something that can be easily remedied at home, I'd like to hear it.
I'd research more on this but like I said, there's so many conflicting websites that cancels one out so I'm afraid I'd be reading the wrong info that may put me as well as my family at risk.
Of course! The websites I use for patient information on medications are Micromedex and Lexicomp (which both require subscriptions unfortunately). Lexicomp also has UpToDate which I believe you can see minimal information from without a subscription. You can also find the package inserts for medications for free online (try searching "Lasix package insert" and it's usually the first link, from accessdata.fda.gov). For medication information, don't trust websites that aren't specifically certified to give drug information. If you ask your doctor, they can also print you out the "patient-friendly" version of any drug fact sheet, that has layman's terms so that it's not confusing (but is annoyingly behind those aforementioned subscription paywalls). You can also generally trust any of the websites that the FDA suggests for patient-friendly information.
Unfortunately, due to the nature of many of the disease states that cause edema, it's not something that can be easily remedied without medications (aside from exercise, weight loss, and a healthy diet).
In terms of Lasix side effects in general, and please do note that I'm just giving general information and of course don't take this as medical advice because I'm not your provider etc etc legalese... But if your parent hates it because it makes them need to pee, unfortunately that's how it works to reduce fluid in the body- they pee it off. That extra fluid is what's causing the edema. One thing that may help is if they take their dose at least 4 hours or more prior to bedtime if they are able- have them talk to their doctor about specific timing though because it may be that their doctor has them on a specific schedule for a reason. Also, the obvious- light exercise as they are able, weight loss if that's applicable, and a healthy diet.
Finally, your local pharmacist is a great resource for medication help. Unless they are much older (PharmDs began to be required back in 2000), they have a doctorate in pharmacy (and even old RPh's who have been grandfathered in are extremely knowledgeable since they've had so much experience) and can look at your parent's entire medication list and disease history and suggest specific things to help your parent feel better about their medications and disease states.
Thanks for this. Really helpful info!
Yup my parent is currently on a diet and has been gradually losing weight. Said they feel so much better now, despite taking Lasix. I think this time around the doctor finally explained what my parent had to do and my parent took their advice, unless it has been repeated numerous times but my parent has been stubborn or something like that.
Because I'm deaf, my parent don't really know sign language so there's a communication barrier of some sort that's really preventing me from understanding everything my parent has as far as medication goes. I am familiar with most but Lasix is something new to me.
I'll look into researching this and your keywords will be helpful because I usually just type in the prescription name and there would be a lot of sites like WebMD, Mayo Clinic, etc, with info and such.
Again, thank you so much!!
The flu shot is a vaccine.
That's weird because I get this "vaccine" annually as a condition of my employment but I still get the flu every 2-3 years like I did before.
It's luck of the draw. The vaccine is made of 2 or 3 strains of flu that researches predict (guess) are the most likely to be prevalent. And if you encounter another strain, you aren't protected.
Because it’s a trash money grab for people. It doesn’t help you
Agreed.
Polio is a vaccine.
MMR is a vaccine.
Smallpox is a vaccine.
You get the vaccine and it's a rare outside chance you will ever get the illness.
We've had flu "vaccines" for decades but people regularly get the flu.
That's because the "Flu" refers to multiple constantly changing strains of virus. They tailor new flu vaccines every season, but a lot of people catch the newest bug before the vaccines get around. It's a constant game of catch-up that's mostly pointless except for the weak and elderly. That's why the atypical response to china-virus is so ridiculous, it's just like dealing with a bad seasonal flu.
The more you look into actual vaccines and their mortality rates the sadder it gets.
Do they get to loot, riot, murder?
Depends on the police and the politicians.
If the city is going to allow it, then yes, they do, until January 21st. It sucks for the people whose property gets destroyed, but the onus is on their governments. Let the responsibility fall there.
Can you think of a more effective Trump ad campaign than BLM burning every major city in America?
Don't lose the war because you can't bring yourself to lose a battle. We need to not only win on Nov. 3rd but win so decisively that an earthquake of self-doubt sweeps through the left. And you can bet your ass that when he does win, the protest will get even worse, to the point that when the National Guard does begin rolling out and rounding people up, nobody is going to be bothered by it at all.
Let that happen. Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. Batten down the hatches, protect your homes and family, but provoke nothing.
everywhere we protest now, need to have the 2nd amendment implement slinged onto shoulder
need to start making the point in these public protest what is going to come as the next step
Glad people are waking up.
Isn't it against the Geneva convention to make it mandatory?
What about those students with a medical condition that might be harmed by taking the flu shot?
Stop thinking and do as you're told, Nazi.
They’ll tell them they can get a medical exemption, then harass the doctors who give medical exemptions into not giving them.
If they can get a doctor to put it in writing, the parents can avoid the vaccination.
What could go wrong, letting people that want you dead forcefully inject you. Never underestimate the enemies of America.
This is a test. To see public reaction to mandatory vaccinations
port city commie infiltration
BLM needs to riot near Boston Common. Swan likes visitors.
I say we do not need mandatory flu shots, and I got one, this year.
Mandatory vaccines are a slush fund for certain businesses. Certain vaccines are of huge benefit (polio, rabies, whooping cough), and some don't have a hell of a lot of utility, due to the rate of change of the virus (flu, HIV).
Making flu vaccines mandatory is more for the purpose of creating a larger market for a product than actually benefitting society. After all, there's a new flu vaccine out once or twice a year.
How long before the MSM calls the protest: riot, unhinged, extremist, violent, unsafe, controversial, unruly, selfish, unhealthy, or threatening?
Get your bingo cards ready!
Yeah I take the flu shot as a choice, won't be doing any corona-virus shot and any of these types of vaccines should be OPTIONAL.
This isn't something like polio.
Now that they're saying that 9500 people have died from covid-19 as opposed to 153000, who the f*** in their right mind is going to take that vaccine?
If it did what it said it does you wouldn’t have to mandate it!!
Since 2020 decided to beat our asses and wake us up, this is the first year that I will not be getting one.
Scary, while I think flu shots in general are probably good to get. MANDATORY flu shots is horrifying.
Getting trampled by elephants will cure the common cold, but it should not be mandatory.
Mandatory medical treatments lmfao. Go fuck yourselves.
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