We dont need the govt to interfere directly. These mega corps are losing billions between lawsuits, paid promotion, massive salaries, and most importantly alternative media. Despite their best efforts, most people are not tuning in anymore. Let people decide with their wallet. If they are breaking laws then the govt needs to do its job.
Edit- No insults and good points all around. Thats why I love this place.
Yup 1 owner can own 1 channel or 1 magazine or 1 studio or 1 whatever. This needs to be broke the fuck up.
Freedom of speech is meant for individuals not sybversive global megacorporations.
The founding father dealt in reality. If this was their world they would say Fuck No.
"The MSM has been lying to the American Public since Nixon..."
Recall Nixon won a landslide victory on law and order after the 1960s civil rights riots.
The Democratic run cities remained unsafe (remember "white flight") until Republican Rudy Giuliani's New York win in 1993, which all mayors then emulated.
BLM/ANTIFA riots will have lasting affects. Media will not change. Plan accordingly
Jordan Peterson also said that Kavanaugh should step down, claimed he didn't sleep at all for two weeks due to apple cider, and is definitely not on meth...
Benzos aren't meth you moron, and he's off of those now. Anyway he later regretted saying Kavanaugh should step down and said it was because it was causing further division in the country. Guess no one could ever have been wrong before. You're acting just like Twitter cancer.
Unfortunately my crazy ass aunt parrots anything CNN tells her.... but she seriously has some screws loose. So I believe most people who truly believe this shit have some mental issues. My aunt is weird af and its definitely not drugs (she doesnt smoke or drink)...just sadly not all the lights on upstairs🤦♀️
I hate to shake your faith, but every Democrat I follow on social media is parroting this. These people have been "demoralized" as Yuri Bezmanov termed it. They no longer have any interest in the truth and they no longer have any use for critical thinking. They will unquestioningly believe anything that the misleadia tells them now as long as it does not conflict with their existing programming.
"Shortly, the public will be unable to reason or think for themselves. They'll only be able to parrot the information they've been given on the previous night's news."
Yuri was not exaggerating in his assessment. I see proof of it every day. You can present these useful idiots with a wealth of insurmountable evidence and they will simply refuse to believe it or rationalize it away using mental gymnastics. There is no reasoning with them and they are radicalized and filled with hate. I see no possibility of it ending well.
Best way is to physically remove commies that have influence. After that, replace them with MAGA integrity and American patriotism and those 20-30% sheep will follow. Sadly, all they do is consume and follow whatever is trendy and the NPC meme is real.
Given the echo chambers that people live in, it is easy. Many factors are reducing the opportunity for civil discourse while at the same time increasing the amount of content for people in the bubble. Just look at your own media consumption, in the 1990s we were mostly limited to conservative AM talk radio and gun show related communication. You might have heard some non-msm material at the gun range. We didn’t have a private place to discuss online, so all communication was necessary in person and had to adhere to some boundaries of civility. Those conversations were necessarily going to have viewpoints from multiple sides and the extended length of the interaction prompted critical thinking about what was being said.
Today, I actively avoid talking politics even with people I’m pretty sure agree with me, just because my work life would be much more difficult being outed behind enemy lines. I’m sure there are liberal forums similar to this one, but I would be run out even if civil and rationally discussing topics.
30 years ago we would be discuss the topics at happy hour.
The echo chamber has deluded many into equating churchgoers or support of police as being a literal white supremacist who attends clan robes or a goose stepping nazi who wants to gas the Jews. We need to break that conditioning so Democrats call out those views on their own side as being cut from the cloth of genocidal ideology.
But at least we now know where not to go, liberal strongholds. Stay away from big democrat run cities. They are exposed and hopefully change can start at the local level. I doubt it will happen. Until it does, these cities will burn and people will flee.
Agree 100%. The MSM is the root cause of many of the worst problems facing this country and they need to be held accountable for the damage they are doing. In Trump's second term, he needs to make this a priority.
I often think, the media could be worse than a dictator. Adolf Hitler, as evil as he was, didn’t personally murder 6 million Jews. The German people did. All by getting into their minds by the Nazi media.
Part of it is that the MSM is dying. They've abandoned integrity (not that CNN had much to begin with) to chase viewing figures. The writing was on the wall as soon as they started treating tweets as news. Though it was fairly clear to anyone who came in contact with the internet that it was inevitable.
Even my poor wife who is very supportive and intelligent gets fatigued - even when I'm right - because the convoluted web of lies is so exhausting. I'm starting to think you need to be a special kind of crazy to understand what's going on and I'm encouraged by the sheer variety of people who seem to get it despite vast differences in our backgrounds.
The Devil is very good at lying but God always exposes the truth.
Tribalism is what's left of the Democrat party. That's why their banging drums and jumping around fires in cities all over America. Followers don't think they just follow. Non-player characters or zombies if you like.
Media really is insidious. They can stir the rabid street vermin into action. Document the results, filter it, spin it, disseminate it how they want and create most disingenuous Stories out of it all.
And now most news sites will take absolutely NO consumer feedback. The best you can get to personal email.
Even our local newspaper is doing this. They operate as a shield for local Democrats and a weapon against their political opponents. They are currently in the process of smearing and doxxing the prominent Republican political activists and donors in our town, all on the front page of the newspaper. I have friends who are justifiably in fear for their lives due to this action by the newspaper. One conservative local business owner has already been intimidated into dropping out of the city council race here after receiving death threats and having his home and vehicles vandalized by Democrats.
Most people are exposed to a lot less meaningful news. 30 years ago the national networks had well produced national news and even local news ran well researched syndicated pieces. Print and TV news was decimated by the inability to get a decent slice of the sweet sweet online ad revenue pie. More media options also meant that you weren’t stuck with what the major tv networks were playing.
The most patriotic thing someone could do in this decade is to figure out how to run a great journalism operation with costs and revenue that don’t compromise the integrity of the operation yet yield a nice profit. My bet would be on a company doing something similar to what Apple had been experimenting with on Apple news+. Maintain a strong subscription revenue stream and ensure higher value targeted ads that don’t betray your privacy.
Technology definitely makes it much easier to get constituent parts of journalism at a lower cost. Anyone can get tons of cspan content or live streams of major events without expending massive amounts of cash to physically be present. What we’re not getting is the deeper cuts of journalists asking great questions. The White House press briefings just make me want to smash in the screen because of the completely repetitive and useless questions only there to trigger the person on the podium to make a sound byte. Compilation of stories can now be done mostly remotely from lower cost areas. Getting paid by advertisers without being held hostage and from subscribers is the next trick.
They won't admit it. Let me explain why, bottom to top from my POV in Oregon:
Ted Wheeler (Portland Mayor) blames GEOTUS because he's in a tight race for re-election against a literal Socialist (Sarah "Antifa Sarah" Iannarone), so if he doesn't bend the knee, he's toast, even in this climate (because most of Portland's residents are way-too-emotionally-invested morons, that's why)
Gov. Kate Brown? She's not up for re-election, but is facing a recall initiative on the ballot. People on all sides of the political spectrum openly wear T-shirts (and have custom-printed masks and bumper stickers, etc) that say "#FuckKateBrown". If she makes it to end-of-term without something violent happening to her at the hands of a displaced former business owner? I'll be amazed.
I fully expect the legislature to lose their democrat supermajority this year.
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It's all up and down... they're all desperately grabbing for anything that floats as they drown, their true believers drowning with them.
I believe (and yes, hope) that by this time next year, the tide will roar against the fuckheads, and that a wave of recalls and impeachments thunder across the land, dragging democrats out by their heels. Not sure if it'll happen, but the resentment and disillusionment really is building up...
Not sure how you haven't noticed, but they still won't even then. You know that elderly man with a fire extinguisher who got attacked the other night? The owner of that store still defended BLM.
If they are going to blame anyone, it will be Trump.
These people really do live in their own reality. Fortunately it's not the reality most US voters live in.
The MSM has been lying to the American Public since Nixon....
We need to break up the MSM - there are 5 MEGA CORPS that own 90% of all MEDIA seen today...
That has to end... they COLLUDE... It is a MONOPOLY.... Anti-competitive.
And the Nation itself is at risk.
We dont need the govt to interfere directly. These mega corps are losing billions between lawsuits, paid promotion, massive salaries, and most importantly alternative media. Despite their best efforts, most people are not tuning in anymore. Let people decide with their wallet. If they are breaking laws then the govt needs to do its job.
Edit- No insults and good points all around. Thats why I love this place.
Yup 1 owner can own 1 channel or 1 magazine or 1 studio or 1 whatever. This needs to be broke the fuck up. Freedom of speech is meant for individuals not sybversive global megacorporations. The founding father dealt in reality. If this was their world they would say Fuck No.
"The MSM has been lying to the American Public since Nixon..."
Recall Nixon won a landslide victory on law and order after the 1960s civil rights riots.
The Democratic run cities remained unsafe (remember "white flight") until Republican Rudy Giuliani's New York win in 1993, which all mayors then emulated.
BLM/ANTIFA riots will have lasting affects. Media will not change. Plan accordingly
The only way to sideline the MSM is for us to STOP watching television news and start getting your news from more honest sources.
This could be a movement.
Promise to never watch fake news again
(I haven't watched that shit in the last fifteen years.....)
Que Schumer: "that's a myth"
Who is doing all this lying?
Jordan Peterson is a hack. Prove me wrong.
Jordan Peterson also said that Kavanaugh should step down, claimed he didn't sleep at all for two weeks due to apple cider, and is definitely not on meth...
Benzos aren't meth you moron, and he's off of those now. Anyway he later regretted saying Kavanaugh should step down and said it was because it was causing further division in the country. Guess no one could ever have been wrong before. You're acting just like Twitter cancer.
Unfortunately my crazy ass aunt parrots anything CNN tells her.... but she seriously has some screws loose. So I believe most people who truly believe this shit have some mental issues. My aunt is weird af and its definitely not drugs (she doesnt smoke or drink)...just sadly not all the lights on upstairs🤦♀️
same with my sis who voted for hillary . . . i'm an elderpede who pays attention to politics (greatest game on earth)
she just eats the garbage she is fed without any DD
Or they are leftists.
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I hate to shake your faith, but every Democrat I follow on social media is parroting this. These people have been "demoralized" as Yuri Bezmanov termed it. They no longer have any interest in the truth and they no longer have any use for critical thinking. They will unquestioningly believe anything that the misleadia tells them now as long as it does not conflict with their existing programming.
"Shortly, the public will be unable to reason or think for themselves. They'll only be able to parrot the information they've been given on the previous night's news."
-Zbigniew Brzezinski
Just look up some of his chilling quotes
Too many Z's in that name, but I'll give it a shot.
And yes I think the whole "FactCheck" nonsense is a type of conditioning which removes people's own utility to fact-check things.
His quotes are a bit black-pilling based on what I've read from him. Usually scary, usually true.
Yuri was not exaggerating in his assessment. I see proof of it every day. You can present these useful idiots with a wealth of insurmountable evidence and they will simply refuse to believe it or rationalize it away using mental gymnastics. There is no reasoning with them and they are radicalized and filled with hate. I see no possibility of it ending well.
Best way is to physically remove commies that have influence. After that, replace them with MAGA integrity and American patriotism and those 20-30% sheep will follow. Sadly, all they do is consume and follow whatever is trendy and the NPC meme is real.
Yeah I don't see suppression working. Not when they can riot and prosecution is lopsided.
Trusted Media Sources
They simply deny it, or claim that the President wants to send them in to create violence, which is what Wheeler himself is claiming.
A couple idiots on my facebook were basically laughing at the thought that Antifa was a real thing.
As soon as they were criminalized, Soros switched his funding to blm. So we can switch our verbiage, too. They can't deny blm exists.
Bots, silicon or biological.
It doesn't make any sense. It's like blaming a store owner for his store being looted. "It hAPpEned oN YOuR wATcH!"
Given the echo chambers that people live in, it is easy. Many factors are reducing the opportunity for civil discourse while at the same time increasing the amount of content for people in the bubble. Just look at your own media consumption, in the 1990s we were mostly limited to conservative AM talk radio and gun show related communication. You might have heard some non-msm material at the gun range. We didn’t have a private place to discuss online, so all communication was necessary in person and had to adhere to some boundaries of civility. Those conversations were necessarily going to have viewpoints from multiple sides and the extended length of the interaction prompted critical thinking about what was being said.
Today, I actively avoid talking politics even with people I’m pretty sure agree with me, just because my work life would be much more difficult being outed behind enemy lines. I’m sure there are liberal forums similar to this one, but I would be run out even if civil and rationally discussing topics. 30 years ago we would be discuss the topics at happy hour.
The echo chamber has deluded many into equating churchgoers or support of police as being a literal white supremacist who attends clan robes or a goose stepping nazi who wants to gas the Jews. We need to break that conditioning so Democrats call out those views on their own side as being cut from the cloth of genocidal ideology.
Fabulous post, accurately describing our world. Saved to my quotable folder.
Great post, but your last sentence; some people may be willing to break that conditioning but most are past that point as Yuri described.
The Ministry of Truth strikes again! #1984
Orwell would be proud.
When he sends in the national guard, he'll be inciting violence. Watch, they'll twist it no matter what.
We've already seen it with chaz. The retards everywhere were claiming he was a dictator
Of course they will. The Left is nothing if not predictable. There is nothing that President Trump could do that they wouldn't criticize and attack.
But at least we now know where not to go, liberal strongholds. Stay away from big democrat run cities. They are exposed and hopefully change can start at the local level. I doubt it will happen. Until it does, these cities will burn and people will flee.
Double-plus-good!
You could publish that headline and the useful idiots would believe it and begin immediately parroting it on social media. I see this happen daily.
i thought we were at war with Eurasia just 5 minutes ago?
Agree 100%. The MSM is the root cause of many of the worst problems facing this country and they need to be held accountable for the damage they are doing. In Trump's second term, he needs to make this a priority.
I often think, the media could be worse than a dictator. Adolf Hitler, as evil as he was, didn’t personally murder 6 million Jews. The German people did. All by getting into their minds by the Nazi media.
Part of it is that the MSM is dying. They've abandoned integrity (not that CNN had much to begin with) to chase viewing figures. The writing was on the wall as soon as they started treating tweets as news. Though it was fairly clear to anyone who came in contact with the internet that it was inevitable.
Even my poor wife who is very supportive and intelligent gets fatigued - even when I'm right - because the convoluted web of lies is so exhausting. I'm starting to think you need to be a special kind of crazy to understand what's going on and I'm encouraged by the sheer variety of people who seem to get it despite vast differences in our backgrounds.
The Devil is very good at lying but God always exposes the truth.
Tribalism is what's left of the Democrat party. That's why their banging drums and jumping around fires in cities all over America. Followers don't think they just follow. Non-player characters or zombies if you like.
Those drums they bang at each riot are so annoying. My eyes hurt from all the eye rolling.
I love that last sentence. So true!
how 'bout muh KNIGHTS
i was so 'angry' that games were cancelled after that 'blake incident'
SELAH
Media really is insidious. They can stir the rabid street vermin into action. Document the results, filter it, spin it, disseminate it how they want and create most disingenuous Stories out of it all.
And now most news sites will take absolutely NO consumer feedback. The best you can get to personal email.
Even our local newspaper is doing this. They operate as a shield for local Democrats and a weapon against their political opponents. They are currently in the process of smearing and doxxing the prominent Republican political activists and donors in our town, all on the front page of the newspaper. I have friends who are justifiably in fear for their lives due to this action by the newspaper. One conservative local business owner has already been intimidated into dropping out of the city council race here after receiving death threats and having his home and vehicles vandalized by Democrats.
Most people are exposed to a lot less meaningful news. 30 years ago the national networks had well produced national news and even local news ran well researched syndicated pieces. Print and TV news was decimated by the inability to get a decent slice of the sweet sweet online ad revenue pie. More media options also meant that you weren’t stuck with what the major tv networks were playing.
The most patriotic thing someone could do in this decade is to figure out how to run a great journalism operation with costs and revenue that don’t compromise the integrity of the operation yet yield a nice profit. My bet would be on a company doing something similar to what Apple had been experimenting with on Apple news+. Maintain a strong subscription revenue stream and ensure higher value targeted ads that don’t betray your privacy.
Tim Pool has hinted he wants to head in that direction. Sargon too. How attainable that is, I don't know but worth keeping an eye on.
Technology definitely makes it much easier to get constituent parts of journalism at a lower cost. Anyone can get tons of cspan content or live streams of major events without expending massive amounts of cash to physically be present. What we’re not getting is the deeper cuts of journalists asking great questions. The White House press briefings just make me want to smash in the screen because of the completely repetitive and useless questions only there to trigger the person on the podium to make a sound byte. Compilation of stories can now be done mostly remotely from lower cost areas. Getting paid by advertisers without being held hostage and from subscribers is the next trick.
They're losing. They KNOW they're losing.
They won't admit it. Let me explain why, bottom to top from my POV in Oregon:
Ted Wheeler (Portland Mayor) blames GEOTUS because he's in a tight race for re-election against a literal Socialist (Sarah "Antifa Sarah" Iannarone), so if he doesn't bend the knee, he's toast, even in this climate (because most of Portland's residents are way-too-emotionally-invested morons, that's why)
Gov. Kate Brown? She's not up for re-election, but is facing a recall initiative on the ballot. People on all sides of the political spectrum openly wear T-shirts (and have custom-printed masks and bumper stickers, etc) that say "#FuckKateBrown". If she makes it to end-of-term without something violent happening to her at the hands of a displaced former business owner? I'll be amazed.
I fully expect the legislature to lose their democrat supermajority this year.
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It's all up and down... they're all desperately grabbing for anything that floats as they drown, their true believers drowning with them.
I believe (and yes, hope) that by this time next year, the tide will roar against the fuckheads, and that a wave of recalls and impeachments thunder across the land, dragging democrats out by their heels. Not sure if it'll happen, but the resentment and disillusionment really is building up...
Mail in voting is not about winning the election anymore, its about stopping a total wipe out of the Democrat party.
It's going to be so obvious when Trump drops in with a landslide then mail-in votes come in nearly 100% dem.
They deserve it. Let the place burn.
I agree. And until they're standing there with ashes in their hands, they won't understand it.
Not sure how you haven't noticed, but they still won't even then. You know that elderly man with a fire extinguisher who got attacked the other night? The owner of that store still defended BLM.
If they are going to blame anyone, it will be Trump.
Do patriots have a pony in this race or is it like California monoparty elections?
monoparty, unfortunately.
well written missive Patriopede
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