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Shallers 1 point ago +1 / -0

You mean the ones not out in the streets committing crimes? From here that might seem much harder, but I suspect if we start with the radicals it will polarized the rest. They'll either radicalize, commit crimes and we can deal with them immediately, or we'll have to root them out. We already have the Anti-communist act we just have to use it. We need to take back our schools and destroy the MSM. After that, idk.

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Thundermark 1 point ago +1 / -0

"You mean the ones not out in the streets committing crimes?"

Not quite. I mean the ones that commit crimes for reasons other than ideology (for ideological crimes, we already have laws against terrorism & treason, we just need to enforce them).

Someone earlier in the discussion said something to the effect of "if you can't trust them w/ a gun, you can't trust them outside a prison/mental asylum".

Well, 1st of all, there aren't enough prisons/asylums in the country to hold everyone who would fit into that category.* There are ppl who have mental issues, yet are well-enough functioning members of society so long as they get proper treatment.

2nd, if the gov't can abuse the law to take away your guns, they can abuse the same law to take away your liberty (and have done so many times in the past).

So then we're back at square 1.

No, I do not support restricting the freedoms of regular citizens in any way because there might be a potential of a murderous psycho somewhere at some point in time. I'm talking about specific persons of interest where we have probable cause to suspect they may be very soon involved in agressing against the rights of others. Is it even possible to address that problem w/o immediately opening those same tools we use to address it to rampant abuse by those in power who wish to target "undesirables"/opponents w/ it?

If it's not, then yes, absolutely we should err on the side of liberty.