If there was a serious illness, CDC would report either a covid death or whatever other serious illness, it wouldn't be considered excess. The numbers don't add up no matter how you count them.
"Total number of excess deaths:The total number of excess deaths in each jurisdiction was calculated by summing the excess deaths in each week, from February 1, 2020 to present. Similarly, the total number of excess deaths for the US overall was computed as a sum of jurisdiction-specific numbers of excess deaths (with negative values set to zero), and not directly estimated using the Farrington surveillance algorithms"
This is from the CDC link provided in the article.it seems to indicate that the excess numbers were counted in jurisdictions that had excess but the lower death rates (negative numbers) were just set to zero (thus discounted). wouldn't this artificially inflate / overstate the YOY death increase at the country level?
I'm no health health expert, but the following is true:
Unemployment, forced isolation, stress, and other disruption in quality of life (no dating, gym, dining out, theater, visiting friends and family, etc) increase depression, substance abuse, domestic abuse, etc - for pretty much the entire population! That's multiplied to 330 million people in the US, 7.7 billion world-wide! The impact of that can be many times higher than the impact of COVID!
To maintain a frame of reference, I think of contagious diseases as relative to a bad flu season. A common flu season has recently killed 80k people in the USA, which didn't get much news coverage. That makes the current alleged US COVID death count around 2 flus, but that's counting false positives and people who merely died "with it" (not "because of it"). As with the flu and all other causes of death - unfortunately some people die, but life goes on.
Quantifying the severity of medical impacts should be done by "years of life lost", not just deaths. There's a big difference between a disease that only expedites the death of someone already on their deathbed by a few days, vs a disease that kills otherwise-healthy children...
The greatest exposure to other people's germs happens precisely with the lifestyle that the left advocates: everyone packed into cities, more crowding, forced integration (rather than private neighborhoods), "public" transportation, "public" kindergartens and schools (rather than homeschooling), "public" spaces, "public" playgrounds, "public" everything. I was born in the Soviet Union, and it was one big germ factory...
You can have hysteria over anything, regardless of how it actually ranks among all other threats. If all the hysteria around COVID had gone into preventing heart disease, a lot more lives (and especially years of life) would be saved...
It doesn't make sense either way because the 223k is above covid, respiratory (flu, pneumonia etc), cancer, heart etc. Excess means not any of the others so what the article is saying is that we have 159k covid plus 223k excess. It still makes no sense.
How many do you think were normal (serious) illnesses that people succumbed to while avoiding the "Covid-filled" hospitals?
If there was a serious illness, CDC would report either a covid death or whatever other serious illness, it wouldn't be considered excess. The numbers don't add up no matter how you count them.
excellent point!
We're getting more suicides and less treatment and screening for diseases.
"Total number of excess deaths:The total number of excess deaths in each jurisdiction was calculated by summing the excess deaths in each week, from February 1, 2020 to present. Similarly, the total number of excess deaths for the US overall was computed as a sum of jurisdiction-specific numbers of excess deaths (with negative values set to zero), and not directly estimated using the Farrington surveillance algorithms"
This is from the CDC link provided in the article.it seems to indicate that the excess numbers were counted in jurisdictions that had excess but the lower death rates (negative numbers) were just set to zero (thus discounted). wouldn't this artificially inflate / overstate the YOY death increase at the country level?
Whats your take on this OP?
I'm no health health expert, but the following is true:
Unemployment, forced isolation, stress, and other disruption in quality of life (no dating, gym, dining out, theater, visiting friends and family, etc) increase depression, substance abuse, domestic abuse, etc - for pretty much the entire population! That's multiplied to 330 million people in the US, 7.7 billion world-wide! The impact of that can be many times higher than the impact of COVID!
To maintain a frame of reference, I think of contagious diseases as relative to a bad flu season. A common flu season has recently killed 80k people in the USA, which didn't get much news coverage. That makes the current alleged US COVID death count around 2 flus, but that's counting false positives and people who merely died "with it" (not "because of it"). As with the flu and all other causes of death - unfortunately some people die, but life goes on.
Quantifying the severity of medical impacts should be done by "years of life lost", not just deaths. There's a big difference between a disease that only expedites the death of someone already on their deathbed by a few days, vs a disease that kills otherwise-healthy children...
The greatest exposure to other people's germs happens precisely with the lifestyle that the left advocates: everyone packed into cities, more crowding, forced integration (rather than private neighborhoods), "public" transportation, "public" kindergartens and schools (rather than homeschooling), "public" spaces, "public" playgrounds, "public" everything. I was born in the Soviet Union, and it was one big germ factory...
You can have hysteria over anything, regardless of how it actually ranks among all other threats. If all the hysteria around COVID had gone into preventing heart disease, a lot more lives (and especially years of life) would be saved...
It doesn't make sense either way because the 223k is above covid, respiratory (flu, pneumonia etc), cancer, heart etc. Excess means not any of the others so what the article is saying is that we have 159k covid plus 223k excess. It still makes no sense.
Most of those peeps were just commies killed by Kyle.