So that means he should act like a tyrant and send in troops that the governor, the mayor, the city council and the voters of Portland don't want?
What do you think that's going to accomplish? Do you understand we're living in a psychological operation right now in which the Democrats and the Media are trying to provoke such a reaction?
I might have misunderstood your post. I agree with your response 100%.
I don't want Trump to give them any chance to say "See! Told you he is a tyrant!".
This is their mess and they need to deal with it. If the local government asks for help from the Federal government, then fine. Otherwise, Trump's problem.
They haven't started robbing and destroying people's homes in residential neighborhoods. Again, there are professional organizers, agent provocateurs and trained blocks in those groups. They know that robbing and destroying residential homes...and I emphasize.....for no reason would immediately turn Portland residents against them. That's why the only somewhat sympathetic cases in which they did this was a stupid woman wearing a Nazi armband and an older woman who tried to save a PD even after the police abandoned it.
You and many others think it's going to get worse and it's going to get bad and oh boiohboiohboiohboi what if it moves to suburbs and residential areas. I'm telling you right now, IT WON'T so stop dreaming about it. Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Marxist all know their butts are toast if they do that and that's precisely why they aren't doing it. Pay attention, this is all about BAITING conservatives/Republicans/Christians/Traditionalists etc into doing exactly what those foolish Proud Boys, Sitting Ducks in Trucks, Patriot Prayer are doing. Guess what? Normies in Portland don't care what happens to Joey Gibson and they don't care what Happened to Aaron Jay Danielson either because they see Gibson and Jay as the bigger problem. Why can't you understand that?
You can't go in and make an entire populace act, think and behave as you want them to. Portland's populace are entrenched Democrats and Marxists. They don't want Trump's help. They want Ted Wheeler and his city council to continue doing what they are doing. They think this is funny and they live to read things from the right that show our frustration and anger and then they laugh because from their perspective, we're making a mountain out of molehole. They're kind of right about that. No one in Portland is complaining. Conservatives in the rest of the state are triggered and so are Sheriff's and PD Departments but the residents of Portland do not care and they think it's funny people like you want to send in troops.
I'm telling you, if Trump sends in Federal Troops to stop the rioting, it may have the effect of galvanizing the almost the entire populace in Portland to join antifa. They are that cucked in Portland. What would we win by doing that?
Every single indication coming out of Portland shows, the residents of Portland LOVE, just LOVE the rioting. They WANT THIS and they are APPLAUDING this. Why do so many conservatives have such a hard time grasping that simple, basic fact.
When they start robbing and destroying people's homes it THE PEOPLE'S responsibility to defend their homes, still not a federal issue.
Flip the script. You are out protesting because you don't like something. The state and local governments have opposing views than you do and they call in the troops to stop you.
"How you like them apples, boy?"
You can't just be for Federalism when it is convenient for you. If this is happening in your neighborhood, by all means, go defend your family and your property. Just don't expect me, or my tax dollars, to go jump in unless we happen to live in the same city/state.
I've spoken and met with many former Democrats that voted for Clinton but now support Trump. You should talk to some folks walking the street registering voters. Shit, call real estate agents in NC and ask them since they are selling homes like crazy to people from NY and NJ.
i welcome anyone who wants to get on the Trump Train wholeheartedly but with a grain of salt. They are leaving those areas now - NYC and NJ - because what they have been voting for is now being implemented. That sucks for them so they are leaving. My problem is that they voted for that sort of governance to begin with. You may think there's a sea change of people who voted for DiBlasio and Cuomo and Nadler and Schumer and AOC to stop supporting such politicians. I'm telling you there's not. They may have made the shift to Trump but that doesn't mean they wouldn't vote for all those corrupt Democrats over and over and over and over again. They would. If all those who are moving were going to vote Republican, it would show up in the polls.
Lemme ask you something though. Did you vote for Bush or Romney? At one time was Gowdy a favorite or Rick Perry? How many times have we been duped by the RINOs? Trump has helped us understand how bad things are on the Conservative side. They are learning how bad things are as well .
I campaigned for Michelle Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Tom Tancredo, Pat Buchanan (Reform 1996). I'm not telling you my primary or general voting record. I have never voted for a Democrat and Pat Buchanan is the only third party candidate I've ever campaigned for. I didn't vote for him in the general election though.
Explain how going into Portland with live ammo is going to change the minds of Democrats? Even if you killed them all, they'd still vote Democrat.
I guess you aren't aware that the left has called Trump a tyrant for the past 4+ years.
So that means he should act like a tyrant and send in troops that the governor, the mayor, the city council and the voters of Portland don't want?
What do you think that's going to accomplish? Do you understand we're living in a psychological operation right now in which the Democrats and the Media are trying to provoke such a reaction?
I might have misunderstood your post. I agree with your response 100%.
I don't want Trump to give them any chance to say "See! Told you he is a tyrant!".
This is their mess and they need to deal with it. If the local government asks for help from the Federal government, then fine. Otherwise, Trump's problem.
oh, well, I think I replied to you again...excuse me. I would rather be in agreement with my fellow pedes. :D
They haven't started robbing and destroying people's homes in residential neighborhoods. Again, there are professional organizers, agent provocateurs and trained blocks in those groups. They know that robbing and destroying residential homes...and I emphasize.....for no reason would immediately turn Portland residents against them. That's why the only somewhat sympathetic cases in which they did this was a stupid woman wearing a Nazi armband and an older woman who tried to save a PD even after the police abandoned it.
You and many others think it's going to get worse and it's going to get bad and oh boiohboiohboiohboi what if it moves to suburbs and residential areas. I'm telling you right now, IT WON'T so stop dreaming about it. Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Marxist all know their butts are toast if they do that and that's precisely why they aren't doing it. Pay attention, this is all about BAITING conservatives/Republicans/Christians/Traditionalists etc into doing exactly what those foolish Proud Boys, Sitting Ducks in Trucks, Patriot Prayer are doing. Guess what? Normies in Portland don't care what happens to Joey Gibson and they don't care what Happened to Aaron Jay Danielson either because they see Gibson and Jay as the bigger problem. Why can't you understand that?
You can't go in and make an entire populace act, think and behave as you want them to. Portland's populace are entrenched Democrats and Marxists. They don't want Trump's help. They want Ted Wheeler and his city council to continue doing what they are doing. They think this is funny and they live to read things from the right that show our frustration and anger and then they laugh because from their perspective, we're making a mountain out of molehole. They're kind of right about that. No one in Portland is complaining. Conservatives in the rest of the state are triggered and so are Sheriff's and PD Departments but the residents of Portland do not care and they think it's funny people like you want to send in troops.
I'm telling you, if Trump sends in Federal Troops to stop the rioting, it may have the effect of galvanizing the almost the entire populace in Portland to join antifa. They are that cucked in Portland. What would we win by doing that?
Every single indication coming out of Portland shows, the residents of Portland LOVE, just LOVE the rioting. They WANT THIS and they are APPLAUDING this. Why do so many conservatives have such a hard time grasping that simple, basic fact.
When they start robbing and destroying people's homes it THE PEOPLE'S responsibility to defend their homes, still not a federal issue.
Flip the script. You are out protesting because you don't like something. The state and local governments have opposing views than you do and they call in the troops to stop you.
"How you like them apples, boy?"
You can't just be for Federalism when it is convenient for you. If this is happening in your neighborhood, by all means, go defend your family and your property. Just don't expect me, or my tax dollars, to go jump in unless we happen to live in the same city/state.
I've spoken and met with many former Democrats that voted for Clinton but now support Trump. You should talk to some folks walking the street registering voters. Shit, call real estate agents in NC and ask them since they are selling homes like crazy to people from NY and NJ.
i welcome anyone who wants to get on the Trump Train wholeheartedly but with a grain of salt. They are leaving those areas now - NYC and NJ - because what they have been voting for is now being implemented. That sucks for them so they are leaving. My problem is that they voted for that sort of governance to begin with. You may think there's a sea change of people who voted for DiBlasio and Cuomo and Nadler and Schumer and AOC to stop supporting such politicians. I'm telling you there's not. They may have made the shift to Trump but that doesn't mean they wouldn't vote for all those corrupt Democrats over and over and over and over again. They would. If all those who are moving were going to vote Republican, it would show up in the polls.
Lemme ask you something though. Did you vote for Bush or Romney? At one time was Gowdy a favorite or Rick Perry? How many times have we been duped by the RINOs? Trump has helped us understand how bad things are on the Conservative side. They are learning how bad things are as well .
I campaigned for Michelle Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Tom Tancredo, Pat Buchanan (Reform 1996). I'm not telling you my primary or general voting record. I have never voted for a Democrat and Pat Buchanan is the only third party candidate I've ever campaigned for. I didn't vote for him in the general election though.
What was done there, I saw it