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And no, I’m not suggesting we vote for AOC to spite her Republican (I’m not saying RINO anymore, because almost all of them are “RINO”) opponent.
I’m saying we need to get off our asses and stop letting cucks like Grahmnasty get past the primaries.
Hold your nose and vote for the cuck in the general election if your Republican neighbors let you down in the primary, but damn it, the primaries is where we need to fix this shit.
“But my guy is one of the good ones! All the other Republicans are RINOs!”
No. With a few exceptions, “your guy” is a cuck too. Stop re-electing these turds.
Reminds me when I had dinner with my black friends family, literally the sweetest kool aid i've ever drank in my life and I spent a week drinking basically nothing but kool aid in the boundary waters to take away the horrible iodine water purification taste.
I think what we're seeing with both parties is that Republicans are mostly individualists whereas the Democrats are collectivists..... Ergo, it would only make sense for the politicians that represent their respective parties to hold similar values. As a result, we see the former succumb to bribery, blackmail, and intimidation, whereas the latter are more akin to organized crime.
While money is clearly a part of it, Democrat ideologies are so entrenched in obsequiousness that they are willing to do things for upvotes. It's why this twattersphere by which their entire worlds revolve is so easily subject to abuse. If you can generate likes so easily, you can make them bend over as they've done repeatedly, all for that cultlike obsession for acceptance.
They’re clearly a white identitarian group. “White” is always capitalized in reference to the group, just like the commies are trying to get everyone to capitalize “black.” Oh, and saying “Jewish Fox News correspondent Chris Wallace.” Oh, and whining about people who are critical of “pro-White” movements.
America was the gold standard for the ideal of Universalism: the greatest prosperity comes when all are treated equal by each other and the government. Shifting back to Particularism would be suicide.
The problem is our voting system has a spoiler effect. So splitting votes screws the parties we would otherwise prefer. I don't see the institutional Ds & Rs changing that, either, at this point :/
The problem here is a conflation of terms. There's white nationalists and white nationalists. One is a pejorative, the other a description and the pejorative is usually conflated with the description. This is how the left won over generations of useful idiots. Language. You control words you control thought. What institutions control these things? Aside from the obvious answer in government, it's academia, media, and tech.
Nationalism is not the same as patriotism. If you love your country, you are a patriot. If you only love the people who share your culture (race, language, cuisine, etc), then you are a nationalist. Learn the difference, and don't allow patriots to be lumped in with white nationalists.
If I may: are you a hard nationalist? Or a soft nationalist?
Let's say the scale between nationalist vs. globalist runs between 100 and -100. A hard nationalist thinks the world should be split into 10,000 nations, each with its own ethnicity, religion, language. A globalist thinks we should be under one world government, with open borders, and no restrictions on travel.
I am not a hard nationalist. I am a soft nationalist. I don't mind some give, but things are completely out of control.
A white nationalist by definition desires a white nation. A nationalist simply believes that his or her country should come first. These are the definitions white nationalists and black nationalists use. You should believe people when they tell you what they want.
I see you got hit with some downvotes so Imma give you an upvote. I understand your point and also understand why my original comment with the link to the website was removed.
THE reason is because the President wouldn't like it. He really wouldn't and it's that simple. This is a Trump rally, after all.
OTOH, I can also understand the opinion of people who feel demonized in the current anti-white environment of Western society in general.
It's so ironic because, globally, white people are very much the minority race. And... we all know how much globalists love, well, globalism. Hypocrites as always.
This type of talk is great during a primary. But those are all over now. You MUST VOTE R. Straight ticket on the General. This is no time for ideological stances.
The 2020 primaries may be over now, but by the time you are worried about the 2022 primaries, it may be too late to get this message across to people.
Your reasoning is part of the problem. You see, the cucks know that we don’t like them, so when primary season comes around, they all put on a big show of being true conservatives, they make great speeches, buy a lot of ads playing that one nice thing Trump said about them that one time, they write strongly worded letters, and then everyone votes for them, because “their guy isn’t a RINO like the rest of them!” (if they even vote in the primaries at all).
We need to constantly remind our fellow conservatives that the republicans keep fucking us, and not let anyone forget it come next primary season.
Yes, republicans are the lesser of two evils, and we need to vote for them in November, straight ticket. But that doesn’t mean we should forgive, or ever stop talking about their betrayal, lest we forget.
That's not even to mention all the games that get played with horse trading votes in Washington. If your constituents are acutely Republican, you might be allowed more Republican-aligned votes to appease them but if your vote is needed or it's someone elses turn to look sincere, you're going to be expected to fall in line.
Imagine how much more fucked up things would be if republicans didn’t acknowledge the “murder” of George Floyd
Fake News would make a Democrat ( George) shot in a Democrat city in a Democrat State by a Democrat cop a Republican problem even more than they already are doing.
Correct. Keep ceding ground because of 'muh optics' and lo-and-behold an actual communist is in the White House in January, 2009. Eleven years later, the republic is on the brink more so than at almost any other time.
All because "the media will smear me". It's time for action.
The bottom line is that we are facing our own paradox of intolerance. How do you support freedoms when demons and traitors will actively use those freedoms to advocate and conspire to destroy them?
We foolishly put faith in the "freedom of the press" and let them foment their treason.
The first strike must be to obliterate these entities and the animals who power them. And I don't mean in a legal sense.
That's a good point, I wonder how much of this jumping on the band wagon for republican politicians is just them picking their battles wisely. At a certain point it's too late to change public opinion.
They also need educating on crime statistics vs race. The RepuliCANT establishment is ignorant and out of touch. Many people on this site are aware of the crime stats FFS.
George Floyd was a violent thug, nothing of value was lost. And now his family are multi millionaires because he overdosed on fentanyl. Given the flag of honor and a golden casket with a mass funeral. George Floyd KILLED HIMSELF
And few Republicans have the courage to mention this. A POS junkie is celebrated and paraded about in a gold casket and people bend their knee to this. It's unbelievable.
Someone tell Bongino and the rest to stop defaming before the facts are in. Every conservative commentary was jacking off the commie narrative, cupping the balls, and swallowing.
Don't fuck with Rush. That man has done more for Trump and conservatives than any other person in this world. Everyone makes mistakes. That original video of the police on Floyd's neck was very hard to defend (on it's own). Fortunately we have the rest of the tape, which changes the ENTIRE story. I knew at the time there was more to it, but you pretty much seemed like an asshole if you defended the cops after seeing that original 8 min video.
It is entirely plausible that jurors, even after having been convinced by the evidence that no crime was committed by the officers, may nevertheless vote guilty simply because they know that if these cops walk there will be chaos in the streets, maybe worse than we've ever seen. This would would be justice murdered by mob rule, this would be yet another milestone in the un-invention of America, and there is a very good chance that this is what in fact will occur.
"It's the very thing our founders sought to prevent."
Exactly.
I was raised a Democrat, and over the years I slowly found my own way, but the thing that pushed me over the edge, to where I am today (fully based Trump supporter), was the Ferguson/Michael Brown incident.
I remember watching as the network news, and all my liberal friends, convicted the police officer BEFORE ANY ACTUAL EVIDENCE was considered. They praised the riots as if Michael Brown's murder was a foregone conclusion. And when I tried to point out that, in fact, we had very little actual evidence to condemn the police officer in question, i was scolded, with the not-so-subtle insinuation that I must be a racist for even bringing up such considerations.
I was never the same after that.
If you want to hear an interesting discussion of this issue (mobs vs. justice) I recommend you check out the start of hour two of Joe Rogan's most recent podcast with Bret Weinstein. Really worth watching. I'll leave it at that. #MAGA
I'm convinced liberals do not operate on the same thinking level as the rest of us. Since emotions clearly dominate their thinking, you could say they're closer to their lizard brain i.e. not as advanced.
We’ll lie to NPCs because the other side and the media already lied first
For people that work 14 hours per day and the only news they get when they come home is MSM, they probably still think George Floyd was "murdered".
The fact that your post has that many upvotes with me being your only downvote so far
You mofos better wake up to the hoax of constant and unyielding black victimization
No one here is disagreeing with you. Are you having a PTSD attack and think you're on /r/politics or something?
Calm down, pal. You literally basically parroted exactly what I said but added a bunch of contrived technobabble to sound more educated while ignoring my message entirely.
Yup. They’ll drag this out until a week or two before the election. Rioters’ handlers will be instructed to target polling locations. Stolen election via USPS.
I wonder if DHS (or similar) could be tasked with guarding physical polling locations. As in some kind of election integrity quick reaction force. If Democrats can’t use Coronachan to mandate mail-in voting, they’ll certainly use their cadre of useful idiots to tear shit down and/or intimidate voters (i.e. actual voter suppression, not the made up kind).
I think they're gearing up for mail-in voting fraud, based on their recent articles about Plugs coming from behind to win 4 days later, as well as this (apologies, archive didn't like it):
Considering the riots are not polling well for the Dems to the point Biden got flushed out of his basement I seriously doubt the dems want large scale riots in October to remind everyone not to vote Democrat again.
Correct. If he drops the charges all that hate and vitriol will be directed solely at him. When the jury finds him not guilty the rioters can blame racism inherent in the justice system. We all know how you fight the racism inherent in the system, you burn down Wendy's and loot your local Bestbuy.
You know how many people still try to argue that he should have known to get off his neck anyway? Once people decided to believe something, they just can't seem to let it go.
Oh, no doubt. The media won’t let the truth be known. There will be mobs of Biden supporters out there screaming Floyd was a saint and was strangled with a clean toxicology report.
Isn’t it the cops job to try to resuscitate when someone stops breathing or passes out? This is a genuine question because I’ve seen this sentiment a bunch of times, and I still am under the impression that police officers are supposed to try and help perps if they pass out.
It will entirely depend on the protocols of the jurisdiction and from the slide pictured it doesn't seem that was theirs under those conditions.
I've seen videos of cops attempting to resuscitate, but we sometimes forget that the country is complex with a plurality of jurisdictions with their own statues and way of doing things.
Well considering they couldn't seem to get him into a seated position in the back of SUV, I think pinning him down and waiting for EMS was probably their only move aside from tazing the living shit out of him.
You think that sounds bad? In my state they are trying to make it no longer a felony to assault not only police officers, but firefighters and EMS. I can understand being against the overuse of charging people with assault on police for merely touching a cop, but nobody has any business whatsoever of putting hands on EMS or firefighters.
Virginia, and it goes further than that. It gets rid of the mandatory minimum for assault on not only police officers, firefighters, and EMTs, but also judges, magistrates, correctional officers, and prison doctors and nurses. If I was a CO I would be pissed. It's now open season for these animals to all but shank you.
Giving a sedative before finding out what else is running through their veins could end badly. They would probably stick with physical restraints until they could get him to the hospital and run blood tests.
So, the Evil people know exactly what they're doing. They want to topple our governments. They want to destroy America. Their calls for justice/reform are completely disinginuous. The libtards are just useful idiots who have no clue how things work. They can't think more than one step ahead. They only think with their hearts, being oblivious to the unintended consequences of what they're demanding.
no they won't. Case in point Seattle. Scene not safe? Sorry EMTs can't come. Enjoy your CHAZ without first respondents.
Suddenly CHAZ out. Suddenly city getting sued for 2 billion dollars for denying emergency services to residents.
Lefties don't get this - things in real life are usually the way they for good reasons. But as this year showed, they get educated pretty fast - see all the 'why do we need guns' people from 2019, suddenly needing guns.
"I can't breath" has been a thing since Eric Garner and it can be heard at almost every single arrest of a black person since. They think it's some sort of get out of jail free card I think.
At first I thought they were just trying to print it down the road a few years when the charges were eventually dropped and be the next guys problem after the current people kept failing upwards but then they suppressed the body cam and it was pretty clear what they were doing.
When he does get off I do hope they crank up the riots. Let’s stop with all this hand waving and just get this thing over with.
We’re at a point where this country is very much split and in need of a good reset. Only issue is I feel China and/or Russia will see it as an opportunity to take us.
Did you ever watch two big dudes in a knock down, drag out fight, and think to yourself, "I'm getting in on that!" ?
I don't think they're dumb enough to jump in the middle of a civil war. Will they try to manipulate it? Of course! But get involved physically? Not likely.
Either way, this is just more proof that it wasn't Chauvin's fault. It may open up the department to a lawsuit depending on how the trial goes, but Chauvin is going to walk on everything but tax evasion (and possibly voter fraud).
I never said he was guilty of manslaughter or anything.
I asked if he broke protocol because protocol specifically says to stop the neck restraint once the subject isn't physically resisting, which Floyd stopped after going unconscious. It doesn't mean Chauvin killed Floyd or anything.
It's not about going hands free, it's about the handbook itself specifically saying the neck restraint must end once there is no physical resistance.
I'm not arguing Chauvin killed Floyd, again, we know it didn't. I'm asking about the chances he broke plain language protocol and how that could affect his chances of getting charges dropped.
Where in my post asking about action vs protocol could you possibly have drawn that conclusion from? It's obvious Chauvin didn't kill Floyd, that doesn't mean we can't ask if he violated plain language protocol about ending a neck restraint after there is no physical resistance.
That's the part I'm having trouble with, I don't know how 'neck restraints shall not be used on any person in passive restraint' can be interpreted differently. Unconscious, or appearing so, is definitely not active restraint and thus I feel the restraint should have ended per protocol language(even though we know it didn't kill Floyd at all).
A deranged suspect going still for a while does not make them less deranged. This is not a case of a normal person freaking out a bit where you can assume that if they went still, they probably calmed down.
The officers are distracted because there is a hostile crowd around them, screaming and shouting at them and they need to keep an eye on everyone around them in case someone decides to attack them. Also the noise is probably not helping with tracking whats going on with the suspect.
And finally, and this is the big one - the knee, assuming properly applied that hold, should not have been interfering with his breathing. You might as well argue that they kept his shoes on him for a whole 3 minutes after he stopped moving.
I get that, but the image linked to plainly states 'resistance', not 'sign of life'. Floyd wasn't actively or even passively resisting beyond a point and Chauvin still kept his knee there.
Agreed, and that's something that can be argued in court if it makes it that far. I'm asking specifically about the restraint applied vs the letter of the law(handbook) , so to speak, about restraint vs resistance.
This I have to disagree with you on principal. There were multiple police on scene and the bald one was dedicated to crowd control. That leaves the other 3 officers around Floyd to focus on him. One of the officers suggested to turn Floyd on his side as well, which means they were paying attention.
That is true. I'm not assuming the knee affected his breathing, we're past that and know it didn't due to the autopsy. My only concern is about the protocol linked specifically states to stop the neck restraint once the perp isn't actively resisting, and Chauvin didn't.
Even though we know it didn't kill Floyd, I'm afraid an overzealous prosecutor and sympathetic jury might convict him on wanton disregard for life simply because Floyd picked the wrong time to overdose and die, while Chauvin violated protocol about the neck restraint.
Floyd wasn't actively or even passively resisting beyond a point and Chauvin still kept his knee there.
Passive resistance can include making your body limp so that it's difficult to arrest you. And Floyd transitioned from a state of actively resisting to passively resisting so (c) doesn't necessarily apply. I would interpret (c) not as implying "Stop using this technique immediately once they are no longer actively resisting", but rather "Don't use this technique on someone that is merely passively resisting."
Do you understand what the recovery position is meant to do? If Floyd was released then choked to death on his own vomit because he’d moved you’d likely be complaining about that.
I guess you have problems with the police and I guess I know why.
He used MNPD training for ExSD which is separate from the famous manual rules we like to debate. They are innocent. Chauvin followed his training to the letter.
Here's the problem. Everyone is talking about how the judge will be considering the implications of his decision and potential riots. IN WHAT WORLD IS IT OK TO CONSIDER EXTERNAL FACTORS?
oh boy this was like when a cop in NY was charged with murder for firing on a lady with a baseball bat, and the targets these guys trained on in the academy were of people with baseball bats.
Ok now I’m totally confused. Just watched some of this video and heard none other than Ashleigh Banfield of CNN fame saying that people need to see the full video and not just the snippet of the knee on the neck. The public jumped to conclusions without all the evidence. And that murder is only after a jury trial has determined and ruled a murder. And that joe Biden and other Democrats are defaming Chauvin by calling him a murderer.
This is like triple down hypocrisy. The news media is beyond demonic.
If chauvin can turn this around and actually win a defamation suit I think the world will implode.
Hell for sure get all the back pay for wrongful termination and get his job back through arbitration but I would never be a cop again if I was him especially after a shit load of gangs came out and said they'd shoot on sight any cup who pills their weapon not fire just pull it.
Try it sometime with a friend. You can actually hold a knee on someone to keep their head from lifting, while keeping your hands free, without serious discomfort to that person.
I saw a comment on here recently that said his defense should simply be his lawyer laying down and letting Chauvin put his knee on his neck for 10 minutes. Afterwards they both get up and go sit back down. Gave me a good chuckle.
The idea behind the knee move is if you control the head, you control the body. Resting a hand over someone's head to hold it down isn't effective. Not only does it tie up a hand that could be used for cuffing, but a head/neck is very strong, someone could easily subvert a light hold of a big armed dude. The knee can be held with minimal pressure, securing the head. Then should the subject become agitated and try to wrestle loose, simple forward movement of body weight onto the knee, stops any head movement. I agree, they should demonstrate it during the trial. Further, it should be explained that of the 1,000's of contacts the cop makes with citizens, he only has to kneel on less than 1%. Then follow up with why he would kneel on a subject. Because they're resisting arrest, being unreasonable and potentially can have a dangerous weapon.
Think of all the "conservatives" that called it "murder" because they wanted to virtue signal and go along with the crowd that said "tHeRe'S nO jUsTiFiCaTiOn FoR tHiS".
This is why we can't have political discourse in the United States. The left is full of whiny babies that don't want to reason and the right is full of a bunch of spineless wimps that won't hold the left to task for their BS.
Yeah we lost a lot of good men on this one, Limbaugh, Giuliani, and a bunch more who should know better all cucking on about "what the officers did was wrong" when there was no evidence they did anything at all. 🤦♂️
In the beginning even I fell for it and said it was maybe manslaugher. Now I know Chauvin is 100% innocent. He needs to get Sandsman's lawyer to represent him too and make a few billion from suing the press
Anyone who still calls it a murder, or a bad cop. or a mistake is straight up lying
Very common when the perp keeps struggling after the cuffs are on. It's called excited delirium syndrome. Useless struggling against the cuffs = heart attack
I knew this was hoax and even people here at the donald were pissed at me.
It was weird seeing ex-cops and people like Joe Rogan get super emotional and denounce Chauvin immediately. Anyone who has ever watched police take down videos, COPS, Live PD know that cops do this all the time when someone is resisting arrest.
Its easier and more fun to be cool and accepted. It seems to me many conservatives or just people in general get tired of constantly being society's disciplinarians and occasionally just want to give in to evil so they are cool and accepted and seen as good person. Principles matter and if we abandon them at the sight of viral videos we will continue to lose.
I said this after I saw the video, he was placed in this position to help him, not harm him. He was not able to remain still and safe without restraint whether because of the drugs or aggression it doesn’t not matter, had he been unrestrained he could have caused himself more stress, vomited and aspirated it, the cops had no idea he would die right there and they could not do anything to save him except restrain him in a safe position until the EMS arrived. The charges should be dropped, these men went by the book!
I was a LEO for 20 years.. Chicago & Las Vegas. Attended two police academies and numerous training seminars. This position (Kneeling on a prone subject) is UNIVERSALLY TAUGHT. It is the safest way (officer and subject) to apply handcuffs.
Because ACEP helped the Minneapolis police dept draft a white paper on excited delirium aka how to keep someone alive and everyone safe when someone is on meth. People keep talking about fentanyl but meth with a history of heart disease and autopsy finding cardiac arrest is the real story. Check out the white paper & see that what went down was pretty by the book. Really hate to see it - cops do things by the rules and someone still dies, but it doesn’t look like murder. Keith Ellison upgrading the charges is guaranteeing there will never be a conviction, honestly it’s almost like he didn’t want one so he can fuel outrage even more.
I fell for the limited video that Ellison released. When the full one released and the toxicology and coroners reports came out I felt I should have listened to my instincts. All this death and destruction because of drug addicted fool.
It's good that you're open-minded and willing to change your mind as more facts and details become available.
The problem is a lot of people are married to thier initial opinion. And WHEN Chauvin walks, more riots are expected because people don't want to admit the were wrong initially.
To deny an individual’s right to a fair trail but won’t because of political repercussions is no longer a free and fair country. I would rather see a city burn than to see an innocent man go to prison.
What now every PD officer needs a companion medic? Couldn't the FD consider this an unnecessary burden on their force and charge them directly for services? Taxpayer watchdogs should be all over this.
oh so now they're pushing this bullshit that all arrests lead to cardiac arrest? fuck that.
They're trying to excuse a perp resisting arrest. All they have to do is wind themselves up into a frenzy they cause themselves to have heart problems, induce a heart attack or pass out from anxiety and extreme duress and they're supposed to release the guy.
Shame on Levin, Rush, et all for condemning this guy so quickly, lost tons of faith in those guys. Same republican apologetic BS that got Obama elected, cowards. Naturally they haven't covered this
Republicans need to stop cucking
It’s in their DNA. Leopards and spots....
We need to stop voting for them.
And no, I’m not suggesting we vote for AOC to spite her Republican (I’m not saying RINO anymore, because almost all of them are “RINO”) opponent.
I’m saying we need to get off our asses and stop letting cucks like Grahmnasty get past the primaries.
Hold your nose and vote for the cuck in the general election if your Republican neighbors let you down in the primary, but damn it, the primaries is where we need to fix this shit.
“But my guy is one of the good ones! All the other Republicans are RINOs!”
No. With a few exceptions, “your guy” is a cuck too. Stop re-electing these turds.
THANK YOU!
Almost any Republican is better than any Democrat. A Republican glass of milk is better than any Democrat, and most Republicans for that matter.
By no means, in a general should you vote Democrat. That is why we need to primary that bad Republicans as stated above!
I'm a glass of whiskey republican, not a glass of milk.
MAGA Republican: Dragon Energy drink
RINO Republican: Glass of water
Democrat: Glass of pee
Communists: Glasses only for the elite.
rinos are dirty water
BLM: glass of Kool-Aid, fortified.
Reminds me when I had dinner with my black friends family, literally the sweetest kool aid i've ever drank in my life and I spent a week drinking basically nothing but kool aid in the boundary waters to take away the horrible iodine water purification taste.
Good one.
Add some soy milk to that piss warm changa.
It really is a choice between consistencies of shit, the republicans are just easier to pass and less damaging to your ass....
I think what we're seeing with both parties is that Republicans are mostly individualists whereas the Democrats are collectivists..... Ergo, it would only make sense for the politicians that represent their respective parties to hold similar values. As a result, we see the former succumb to bribery, blackmail, and intimidation, whereas the latter are more akin to organized crime.
While money is clearly a part of it, Democrat ideologies are so entrenched in obsequiousness that they are willing to do things for upvotes. It's why this twattersphere by which their entire worlds revolve is so easily subject to abuse. If you can generate likes so easily, you can make them bend over as they've done repeatedly, all for that cultlike obsession for acceptance.
This is the first election I'll vote down ballot republican because Democrats are openly destroying the country with their TDS.
Be careful, especially when the word "nation" is part of the name. That's the Roman word for a group of people united by their birth.
Oh, and see how they react when you point out their abbreviated name would be NatJu's.
They’re clearly a white identitarian group. “White” is always capitalized in reference to the group, just like the commies are trying to get everyone to capitalize “black.” Oh, and saying “Jewish Fox News correspondent Chris Wallace.” Oh, and whining about people who are critical of “pro-White” movements.
BuT wE’rE NoT WHitE sUPrEmaCisTs bRUh
Yup.
Copied from above to arm more folks with some talking points against this pernicious lie.
Socialist Germany learned from and admired American progressives.
The old and modern progressive platform is one directly targeting minorities for exploitation and population reduction.
The Democrats have said they want Hispanic illegal immigrants here so they can indoctrinate on abortion.
White supremacists need the Democrats in office to achieve their goals.
When Republicans are in office, minorities prosper and thrive.
And don't forget the intrepid progressives FDR and Wilson. The party switch is a lie.
Has he disavowed yet? Lol, just kidding, I know that Biden loves being supported by the KKK. He's old school Democrat, after all.
America was the gold standard for the ideal of Universalism: the greatest prosperity comes when all are treated equal by each other and the government. Shifting back to Particularism would be suicide.
The problem is our voting system has a spoiler effect. So splitting votes screws the parties we would otherwise prefer. I don't see the institutional Ds & Rs changing that, either, at this point :/
Well, it's kinda because they are: https://national-justice.com/trump-needs-white-nationalist-votes-and-he-knows-it
Edit: OH noes! I lost fake internet points for expressing my opinion. Look at the font on their podcast: https://national-justice.com/current-events/interview-thomas-rousseau-patriot-front-live-tonight-9-pm-et-n2230
Fucking leftist run shit if I ever saw it.
I am white. I am a nationalist. The two together have a negative connection with national socialism that they will probably never be rid of.
But I wouldn't think defending my homeland with the skin I was born in would be a crime. Trump helps do that.
So yes he needs the white nationalist vote. But I do not think that means what you think it means
The problem here is a conflation of terms. There's white nationalists and white nationalists. One is a pejorative, the other a description and the pejorative is usually conflated with the description. This is how the left won over generations of useful idiots. Language. You control words you control thought. What institutions control these things? Aside from the obvious answer in government, it's academia, media, and tech.
Nationalism is not the same as patriotism. If you love your country, you are a patriot. If you only love the people who share your culture (race, language, cuisine, etc), then you are a nationalist. Learn the difference, and don't allow patriots to be lumped in with white nationalists.
If I may: are you a hard nationalist? Or a soft nationalist?
Let's say the scale between nationalist vs. globalist runs between 100 and -100. A hard nationalist thinks the world should be split into 10,000 nations, each with its own ethnicity, religion, language. A globalist thinks we should be under one world government, with open borders, and no restrictions on travel.
I am not a hard nationalist. I am a soft nationalist. I don't mind some give, but things are completely out of control.
A white nationalist by definition desires a white nation. A nationalist simply believes that his or her country should come first. These are the definitions white nationalists and black nationalists use. You should believe people when they tell you what they want.
Richard Spencer is a Biden supporter.
Socialist Germany learned from and admired American progressives.
The old and modern progressive platform is one directly targeting minorities for exploitation and population reduction.
The Democrats have said they want Hispanic illegal immigrants here so they can indoctrinate on abortion.
White supremacists need the Democrats in office to achieve their goals.
When Republicans are in office, minorities prosper and thrive.
all of what you said is true. Spencer is also a socialist...as are all neonazis. They are leftists
Richard Spencer is an idiot.
I see you got hit with some downvotes so Imma give you an upvote. I understand your point and also understand why my original comment with the link to the website was removed.
THE reason is because the President wouldn't like it. He really wouldn't and it's that simple. This is a Trump rally, after all.
OTOH, I can also understand the opinion of people who feel demonized in the current anti-white environment of Western society in general.
It's so ironic because, globally, white people are very much the minority race. And... we all know how much globalists love, well, globalism. Hypocrites as always.
username checks out
these guys? https://national-justice.com/trump-needs-white-nationalist-votes-and-he-knows-it
I'm white and l love my nation, if that makes me a "white nationalist" then the America hating commies can kiss my ass
You know damned well the difference between someone who pushes for a white only nation and a nationalist who happens to be white. Don't act daft.
Youre getting sucked into the narrative that a white nationalists is a white supremacist. Dont buy into their bs catch phrases, be smarter that that.
This type of talk is great during a primary. But those are all over now. You MUST VOTE R. Straight ticket on the General. This is no time for ideological stances.
Straight R on general ticket, yes.
But I respectfully disagree with you on the rest.
The 2020 primaries may be over now, but by the time you are worried about the 2022 primaries, it may be too late to get this message across to people.
Your reasoning is part of the problem. You see, the cucks know that we don’t like them, so when primary season comes around, they all put on a big show of being true conservatives, they make great speeches, buy a lot of ads playing that one nice thing Trump said about them that one time, they write strongly worded letters, and then everyone votes for them, because “their guy isn’t a RINO like the rest of them!” (if they even vote in the primaries at all).
We need to constantly remind our fellow conservatives that the republicans keep fucking us, and not let anyone forget it come next primary season.
Yes, republicans are the lesser of two evils, and we need to vote for them in November, straight ticket. But that doesn’t mean we should forgive, or ever stop talking about their betrayal, lest we forget.
That's not even to mention all the games that get played with horse trading votes in Washington. If your constituents are acutely Republican, you might be allowed more Republican-aligned votes to appease them but if your vote is needed or it's someone elses turn to look sincere, you're going to be expected to fall in line.
Imagine how much more fucked up things would be if republicans didn’t acknowledge the “murder” of George Floyd
Fake News would make a Democrat ( George) shot in a Democrat city in a Democrat State by a Democrat cop a Republican problem even more than they already are doing.
Correct. Keep ceding ground because of 'muh optics' and lo-and-behold an actual communist is in the White House in January, 2009. Eleven years later, the republic is on the brink more so than at almost any other time.
All because "the media will smear me". It's time for action.
The bottom line is that we are facing our own paradox of intolerance. How do you support freedoms when demons and traitors will actively use those freedoms to advocate and conspire to destroy them?
We foolishly put faith in the "freedom of the press" and let them foment their treason.
The first strike must be to obliterate these entities and the animals who power them. And I don't mean in a legal sense.
That's a good point, I wonder how much of this jumping on the band wagon for republican politicians is just them picking their battles wisely. At a certain point it's too late to change public opinion.
It's perfectly possible to use sympathetic sounding language without jumping to the 'M' word.
Then we must teach them
They also need educating on crime statistics vs race. The RepuliCANT establishment is ignorant and out of touch. Many people on this site are aware of the crime stats FFS.
George Floyd was a violent thug, nothing of value was lost. And now his family are multi millionaires because he overdosed on fentanyl. Given the flag of honor and a golden casket with a mass funeral. George Floyd KILLED HIMSELF
And few Republicans have the courage to mention this. A POS junkie is celebrated and paraded about in a gold casket and people bend their knee to this. It's unbelievable.
Do you happen to remember which Republicans brought this up? I like to keep a mental list of politicians who make a stand even when it's unpopular.
The media and Big Tech create a narrative and censor and castigate anyone who dissents. They're 90% of our problem.
he was a gay porn star on meth.
He was in one porno. To call him a porn-star is kind of slug to the professionals lmao.
Lol, I call him a gay porn star to trigger his fan base.
Floyd can get fucked. Dude beat the shit out of a pregnant lady and was a drug addicted thief.
Floyd murdered himself. Only person ever to die with covid and not of covid.
Fucked around with Fentanyl and Found Out.
Fuck Around and Find Out is hands down my favorite phrase of 2020.
He's still a "COVID death" statistic, so he was obviously murdered by Trump. /s
I didn’t down vote you, but he did not die of covid in the court of public opinion.
Someone tell Bongino and the rest to stop defaming before the facts are in. Every conservative commentary was jacking off the commie narrative, cupping the balls, and swallowing.
Don't fuck with Rush. That man has done more for Trump and conservatives than any other person in this world. Everyone makes mistakes. That original video of the police on Floyd's neck was very hard to defend (on it's own). Fortunately we have the rest of the tape, which changes the ENTIRE story. I knew at the time there was more to it, but you pretty much seemed like an asshole if you defended the cops after seeing that original 8 min video.
They all know he wasn't murdered, but it would turn a lot of centrist people off who aren't aware of all of the details.
For people that work 14 hours per day and the only news they get when they come home is MSM, they probably still think George Floyd was "murdered".
If they started going out there and saying George Floyd was a felon junkie that had it coming either way, it would just taste sour.
Personally, if they went out there and did a cartoonish re-enactment of George's death, I would've overdosed on laughter on the spot.
It is entirely plausible that jurors, even after having been convinced by the evidence that no crime was committed by the officers, may nevertheless vote guilty simply because they know that if these cops walk there will be chaos in the streets, maybe worse than we've ever seen. This would would be justice murdered by mob rule, this would be yet another milestone in the un-invention of America, and there is a very good chance that this is what in fact will occur.
"It's the very thing our founders sought to prevent."
Exactly.
I was raised a Democrat, and over the years I slowly found my own way, but the thing that pushed me over the edge, to where I am today (fully based Trump supporter), was the Ferguson/Michael Brown incident.
I remember watching as the network news, and all my liberal friends, convicted the police officer BEFORE ANY ACTUAL EVIDENCE was considered. They praised the riots as if Michael Brown's murder was a foregone conclusion. And when I tried to point out that, in fact, we had very little actual evidence to condemn the police officer in question, i was scolded, with the not-so-subtle insinuation that I must be a racist for even bringing up such considerations.
I was never the same after that.
If you want to hear an interesting discussion of this issue (mobs vs. justice) I recommend you check out the start of hour two of Joe Rogan's most recent podcast with Bret Weinstein. Really worth watching. I'll leave it at that. #MAGA
Agreed and it really solidifies a very bad precedent. There will be untold unintended consequences from this all that will be devastating.
Another point, no one has ever explained how George Floyd happened because he was black. How is this even a race issue FFS!
I'm convinced liberals do not operate on the same thinking level as the rest of us. Since emotions clearly dominate their thinking, you could say they're closer to their lizard brain i.e. not as advanced.
? The fuck ?
You basically repeated what I said.
No one here is disagreeing with you. Are you having a PTSD attack and think you're on /r/politics or something?
Calm down, pal. You literally basically parroted exactly what I said but added a bunch of contrived technobabble to sound more educated while ignoring my message entirely.
Chauvin’s charges will be dropped. This seals it. The case against him was weak anyway, but this is proof he did exactly what he was trained to do.
Ellison knew he was overcharging Chauvin, they want a riot when they announce the charges are dropped.
Just like Kenosha Kyle.
Hero. Legend.
Yup. They’ll drag this out until a week or two before the election. Rioters’ handlers will be instructed to target polling locations. Stolen election via USPS.
I predicted that Chauvin would be their October Surprise, and I still think that's the case.
No doubt.
I wonder if DHS (or similar) could be tasked with guarding physical polling locations. As in some kind of election integrity quick reaction force. If Democrats can’t use Coronachan to mandate mail-in voting, they’ll certainly use their cadre of useful idiots to tear shit down and/or intimidate voters (i.e. actual voter suppression, not the made up kind).
I think they're gearing up for mail-in voting fraud, based on their recent articles about Plugs coming from behind to win 4 days later, as well as this (apologies, archive didn't like it):
https://www.newsweek.com/if-donald-trump-refuses-accept-election-results-dnc-lawyers-are-fully-prepared-fight-1519959
I'm thinking it's going to be Jizzlane Maxfail lying about GEOTUS to get out of prison time, or stop a prison hit.
Why not both? I wouldn't put it past them to unload with everything they've got in October, whether real or not.
They have to know we won't care what they have.
They could have a video of him beheading kittens on the White House lawn, and I'd still vote for GEOTUS.
It's all about those in the middle, and #walkaway folks.
Considering the riots are not polling well for the Dems to the point Biden got flushed out of his basement I seriously doubt the dems want large scale riots in October to remind everyone not to vote Democrat again.
AFAIK if a charge doesn't hold in MN, it get downgraded to a lesser one.
They will be dropped around mid September and mass riots and media propaganda will ensue.
Correct. If he drops the charges all that hate and vitriol will be directed solely at him. When the jury finds him not guilty the rioters can blame racism inherent in the justice system. We all know how you fight the racism inherent in the system, you burn down Wendy's and loot your local Bestbuy.
You know how many people still try to argue that he should have known to get off his neck anyway? Once people decided to believe something, they just can't seem to let it go.
Oh, no doubt. The media won’t let the truth be known. There will be mobs of Biden supporters out there screaming Floyd was a saint and was strangled with a clean toxicology report.
Isn’t it the cops job to try to resuscitate when someone stops breathing or passes out? This is a genuine question because I’ve seen this sentiment a bunch of times, and I still am under the impression that police officers are supposed to try and help perps if they pass out.
It will entirely depend on the protocols of the jurisdiction and from the slide pictured it doesn't seem that was theirs under those conditions.
I've seen videos of cops attempting to resuscitate, but we sometimes forget that the country is complex with a plurality of jurisdictions with their own statues and way of doing things.
Well considering they couldn't seem to get him into a seated position in the back of SUV, I think pinning him down and waiting for EMS was probably their only move aside from tazing the living shit out of him.
The charges aren’t about justice, they’re about political activism, and hatred of police
I’m sorry is that photo from the Floyd arrest? Because that looks FUCKING IDENTICAL TO THE FLOYD ARREST. That is all.
Needs more fentanyl overdose.... and bifentanyl, pro-fentanyl, lgbtanyl and whatever else was cocktailed into his system.
Plus some audio “I’m not that kinda guy!!!!!!”
And “I can’t breathe!” While clearly speaking so he can breathe. That’s the whole reason he wasn’t in the cop car to begin with.
Thats because he was feeling the pulmonary edema, which is where the lungs fill with fluid due to fentanyl overdose.
His lungs were 3 times normal weight. He was foaming at the mouth.
He was literally breathing foam, the struggle to breathe caused his enlarged heart to fail.
I should’ve known that after watching all the seasons of House. We have the smartest pedes.
And "I can't choke."
also needs more gay porn stars
No, this photo clearly lacks the bags of drugs on the floor seen in the Fentanyl Floyd incident. Otherwise they are the same picture.
The suspect in this photo is white.
Did you just assume his skin color based on what you're seeing with your EYES?!?!?!
Imagine trying to save some gang member while his psychotic buddies are breathing down your neck and when you fail they blame you.
Liberal utopia.
You think that sounds bad? In my state they are trying to make it no longer a felony to assault not only police officers, but firefighters and EMS. I can understand being against the overuse of charging people with assault on police for merely touching a cop, but nobody has any business whatsoever of putting hands on EMS or firefighters.
What state? And awesome username.
Virginia, and it goes further than that. It gets rid of the mandatory minimum for assault on not only police officers, firefighters, and EMTs, but also judges, magistrates, correctional officers, and prison doctors and nurses. If I was a CO I would be pissed. It's now open season for these animals to all but shank you.
They need to stop poking the bear. This is getting ridiculous.
"Why he do dat? WHY HE DO DAT??" >:[
Like a modern day western tv show, maybe it was "Gunsmoke" where the gang threatens the doc if the injured member dies.
Giving a sedative before finding out what else is running through their veins could end badly. They would probably stick with physical restraints until they could get him to the hospital and run blood tests.
So, the Evil people know exactly what they're doing. They want to topple our governments. They want to destroy America. Their calls for justice/reform are completely disinginuous. The libtards are just useful idiots who have no clue how things work. They can't think more than one step ahead. They only think with their hearts, being oblivious to the unintended consequences of what they're demanding.
no they won't. Case in point Seattle. Scene not safe? Sorry EMTs can't come. Enjoy your CHAZ without first respondents.
Suddenly CHAZ out. Suddenly city getting sued for 2 billion dollars for denying emergency services to residents.
Lefties don't get this - things in real life are usually the way they for good reasons. But as this year showed, they get educated pretty fast - see all the 'why do we need guns' people from 2019, suddenly needing guns.
Yes, St. George was having excited delirium. If he was not restrained, who know what would have dond to the police and EMTs.
Is it over now!?
Of course not. The race baiting liberals are just gonna scream “racism!” some more and keep blaming it all in GEOTUS.
"It is proof the system is racist. See systemic racism is real this is proof reeeeeeeee"
Liberals probably
It's not over until Nov 3rd.
No, that's when they sue and claim Trump cheated. Also, more riots.
Recovery position!!??
Not a murder pose?!!?
You are telling me they lied!?!?
But he can't brief!!!!
It's breev bigot.
according to their training it IS one. So your argument is with the department, not the cops.
Imagine getting a girthy prison sentence because you followed your training and protocol exactly
Goodbye cuck.
Well I'm looking at the picture.
You didn't even attempt to refute it.
So fuck your opinion then?
looks like 'i can't breathe" is as big of a joke as "hands up don't shoot".
Any catchphrase like these are pretty much guaranteed bullshit.
"I can't breath" has been a thing since Eric Garner and it can be heard at almost every single arrest of a black person since. They think it's some sort of get out of jail free card I think.
Let’s be honest, it is. In Dem run cities at least...
Do you hear that whistling sound??
That's the sound of charges dropping!!
I can already smell the smoke from the inevitable riots to follow.
Yup. Ellison knew he was overcharging Chauvin, they WANT riots.
At first I thought they were just trying to print it down the road a few years when the charges were eventually dropped and be the next guys problem after the current people kept failing upwards but then they suppressed the body cam and it was pretty clear what they were doing.
When he does get off I do hope they crank up the riots. Let’s stop with all this hand waving and just get this thing over with.
We’re at a point where this country is very much split and in need of a good reset. Only issue is I feel China and/or Russia will see it as an opportunity to take us.
Did you ever watch two big dudes in a knock down, drag out fight, and think to yourself, "I'm getting in on that!" ?
I don't think they're dumb enough to jump in the middle of a civil war. Will they try to manipulate it? Of course! But get involved physically? Not likely.
Plus Mexico
What, like from a helicopter?
It looks like MPD's approach may have actually made the positional asphyxia worse:
https://policemag.com/524139/how-to-prevent-positional-asphyxia
https://qualifications.pearson.com/content/dam/pdf/subject-updates/wbl/Advice%20on%20Positional%20Asphyxia%20FactSheet.pdf
Either way, this is just more proof that it wasn't Chauvin's fault. It may open up the department to a lawsuit depending on how the trial goes, but Chauvin is going to walk on everything but tax evasion (and possibly voter fraud).
Doesn't subsect c go against Chauvin though, since Floyd wasn't even passively resisting after going unconscious?
He was unconscious and showed no signs of life for the final 3 minutes Chauvin kept his knee there, couldn't even see any breathing.
I never said he was guilty of manslaughter or anything.
I asked if he broke protocol because protocol specifically says to stop the neck restraint once the subject isn't physically resisting, which Floyd stopped after going unconscious. It doesn't mean Chauvin killed Floyd or anything.
It's not about going hands free, it's about the handbook itself specifically saying the neck restraint must end once there is no physical resistance.
I'm not arguing Chauvin killed Floyd, again, we know it didn't. I'm asking about the chances he broke plain language protocol and how that could affect his chances of getting charges dropped.
No, I'm not.
Where in my post asking about action vs protocol could you possibly have drawn that conclusion from? It's obvious Chauvin didn't kill Floyd, that doesn't mean we can't ask if he violated plain language protocol about ending a neck restraint after there is no physical resistance.
That's the part I'm having trouble with, I don't know how 'neck restraints shall not be used on any person in passive restraint' can be interpreted differently. Unconscious, or appearing so, is definitely not active restraint and thus I feel the restraint should have ended per protocol language(even though we know it didn't kill Floyd at all).
touche but keep a few things in mind.
A knee is not a monitoring tool for life signs.
A deranged suspect going still for a while does not make them less deranged. This is not a case of a normal person freaking out a bit where you can assume that if they went still, they probably calmed down.
The officers are distracted because there is a hostile crowd around them, screaming and shouting at them and they need to keep an eye on everyone around them in case someone decides to attack them. Also the noise is probably not helping with tracking whats going on with the suspect.
And finally, and this is the big one - the knee, assuming properly applied that hold, should not have been interfering with his breathing. You might as well argue that they kept his shoes on him for a whole 3 minutes after he stopped moving.
I get that, but the image linked to plainly states 'resistance', not 'sign of life'. Floyd wasn't actively or even passively resisting beyond a point and Chauvin still kept his knee there.
Agreed, and that's something that can be argued in court if it makes it that far. I'm asking specifically about the restraint applied vs the letter of the law(handbook) , so to speak, about restraint vs resistance.
This I have to disagree with you on principal. There were multiple police on scene and the bald one was dedicated to crowd control. That leaves the other 3 officers around Floyd to focus on him. One of the officers suggested to turn Floyd on his side as well, which means they were paying attention.
That is true. I'm not assuming the knee affected his breathing, we're past that and know it didn't due to the autopsy. My only concern is about the protocol linked specifically states to stop the neck restraint once the perp isn't actively resisting, and Chauvin didn't.
Even though we know it didn't kill Floyd, I'm afraid an overzealous prosecutor and sympathetic jury might convict him on wanton disregard for life simply because Floyd picked the wrong time to overdose and die, while Chauvin violated protocol about the neck restraint.
Passive resistance can include making your body limp so that it's difficult to arrest you. And Floyd transitioned from a state of actively resisting to passively resisting so (c) doesn't necessarily apply. I would interpret (c) not as implying "Stop using this technique immediately once they are no longer actively resisting", but rather "Don't use this technique on someone that is merely passively resisting."
See this interpretation I can get behind and it makes sense. Thank you!
Do you understand what the recovery position is meant to do? If Floyd was released then choked to death on his own vomit because he’d moved you’d likely be complaining about that.
I guess you have problems with the police and I guess I know why.
Must be why one of the other officers suggested turning Floyd on his side. You can take it up with them.
Since when? Do you have a new video with three extra minutes added in?
Nope, it's clear in the first video released.
No.
He used MNPD training for ExSD which is separate from the famous manual rules we like to debate. They are innocent. Chauvin followed his training to the letter.
https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why-derek-chauvin-may-get-off-his-murder-charge-2e2ad8d0911
Gotcha. Thanks!
It's bullshit, but get ready to hear the following refrain from the left when he is acquitted:
THE NAZIS WERE "JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS" TOO
This will be a regular sign at the next set of riots.
"Just following democrat orders"
The counter argument is that these would be Nazis going before a Nazi court for doing Nazi things the Nazis explicitly told them to do.
https://youtu.be/_w9GA1RBQ0o
The comments lead me to believe that more and more people are getting it. Thanks for sharing.
If the judge is fair (not a given in MN), they will not even go to trial
Here's the problem. Everyone is talking about how the judge will be considering the implications of his decision and potential riots. IN WHAT WORLD IS IT OK TO CONSIDER EXTERNAL FACTORS?
Step 1: ensure that suspect has not eaten a lethal dose of fentanyl like the retarded junkie he is
oh boy this was like when a cop in NY was charged with murder for firing on a lady with a baseball bat, and the targets these guys trained on in the academy were of people with baseball bats.
Ok now I’m totally confused. Just watched some of this video and heard none other than Ashleigh Banfield of CNN fame saying that people need to see the full video and not just the snippet of the knee on the neck. The public jumped to conclusions without all the evidence. And that murder is only after a jury trial has determined and ruled a murder. And that joe Biden and other Democrats are defaming Chauvin by calling him a murderer.
This is like triple down hypocrisy. The news media is beyond demonic.
If chauvin can turn this around and actually win a defamation suit I think the world will implode.
Hell for sure get all the back pay for wrongful termination and get his job back through arbitration but I would never be a cop again if I was him especially after a shit load of gangs came out and said they'd shoot on sight any cup who pills their weapon not fire just pull it.
Try it sometime with a friend. You can actually hold a knee on someone to keep their head from lifting, while keeping your hands free, without serious discomfort to that person.
I saw a comment on here recently that said his defense should simply be his lawyer laying down and letting Chauvin put his knee on his neck for 10 minutes. Afterwards they both get up and go sit back down. Gave me a good chuckle.
The idea behind the knee move is if you control the head, you control the body. Resting a hand over someone's head to hold it down isn't effective. Not only does it tie up a hand that could be used for cuffing, but a head/neck is very strong, someone could easily subvert a light hold of a big armed dude. The knee can be held with minimal pressure, securing the head. Then should the subject become agitated and try to wrestle loose, simple forward movement of body weight onto the knee, stops any head movement. I agree, they should demonstrate it during the trial. Further, it should be explained that of the 1,000's of contacts the cop makes with citizens, he only has to kneel on less than 1%. Then follow up with why he would kneel on a subject. Because they're resisting arrest, being unreasonable and potentially can have a dangerous weapon.
Defendant’s exhibit number three, your honor.
Fuck Sean Hannity for gaslighting so many on this. Has he apologized at all?
By the book bitches
Think of all the "conservatives" that called it "murder" because they wanted to virtue signal and go along with the crowd that said "tHeRe'S nO jUsTiFiCaTiOn FoR tHiS".
This is why we can't have political discourse in the United States. The left is full of whiny babies that don't want to reason and the right is full of a bunch of spineless wimps that won't hold the left to task for their BS.
Yeah we lost a lot of good men on this one, Limbaugh, Giuliani, and a bunch more who should know better all cucking on about "what the officers did was wrong" when there was no evidence they did anything at all. 🤦♂️
The real story here is that Court TV is still on the air.
He’s already in the recovery position!
We can’t pull over any further, he’s already pulled over!
Corporate needs you to find the differences between this picture and Fentanyl Floyd's picture
"Officer Derek Chauvin: Not Guilty!"
Why would this take 6 months to surface?????
In the beginning even I fell for it and said it was maybe manslaugher. Now I know Chauvin is 100% innocent. He needs to get Sandsman's lawyer to represent him too and make a few billion from suing the press
Anyone who still calls it a murder, or a bad cop. or a mistake is straight up lying
GEORGE FLOYD DIED FROM A DRUG OVERDOSE
So how common is cardiac arrest during actual arrest?
Very common when the perp keeps struggling after the cuffs are on. It's called excited delirium syndrome. Useless struggling against the cuffs = heart attack
Why are they murdering that poor man in the photo.
I knew this was hoax and even people here at the donald were pissed at me.
It was weird seeing ex-cops and people like Joe Rogan get super emotional and denounce Chauvin immediately. Anyone who has ever watched police take down videos, COPS, Live PD know that cops do this all the time when someone is resisting arrest.
Its easier and more fun to be cool and accepted. It seems to me many conservatives or just people in general get tired of constantly being society's disciplinarians and occasionally just want to give in to evil so they are cool and accepted and seen as good person. Principles matter and if we abandon them at the sight of viral videos we will continue to lose.
man on ground
"I'm Falling! I'm Fallllinggggggg"
I said this after I saw the video, he was placed in this position to help him, not harm him. He was not able to remain still and safe without restraint whether because of the drugs or aggression it doesn’t not matter, had he been unrestrained he could have caused himself more stress, vomited and aspirated it, the cops had no idea he would die right there and they could not do anything to save him except restrain him in a safe position until the EMS arrived. The charges should be dropped, these men went by the book!
100% correct
They did step 3 before step 2. Why do we pay for all this police training?
I was a LEO for 20 years.. Chicago & Las Vegas. Attended two police academies and numerous training seminars. This position (Kneeling on a prone subject) is UNIVERSALLY TAUGHT. It is the safest way (officer and subject) to apply handcuffs.
Because ACEP helped the Minneapolis police dept draft a white paper on excited delirium aka how to keep someone alive and everyone safe when someone is on meth. People keep talking about fentanyl but meth with a history of heart disease and autopsy finding cardiac arrest is the real story. Check out the white paper & see that what went down was pretty by the book. Really hate to see it - cops do things by the rules and someone still dies, but it doesn’t look like murder. Keith Ellison upgrading the charges is guaranteeing there will never be a conviction, honestly it’s almost like he didn’t want one so he can fuel outrage even more.
I fell for the limited video that Ellison released. When the full one released and the toxicology and coroners reports came out I felt I should have listened to my instincts. All this death and destruction because of drug addicted fool.
It's good that you're open-minded and willing to change your mind as more facts and details become available.
The problem is a lot of people are married to thier initial opinion. And WHEN Chauvin walks, more riots are expected because people don't want to admit the were wrong initially.
To deny an individual’s right to a fair trail but won’t because of political repercussions is no longer a free and fair country. I would rather see a city burn than to see an innocent man go to prison.
Just like literally every single other police training manual.
Now we know why Chauvin is allegedly treated so well in jail, the correctional officers know he's being railroaded to please the terrorists.
What now every PD officer needs a companion medic? Couldn't the FD consider this an unnecessary burden on their force and charge them directly for services? Taxpayer watchdogs should be all over this.
oh so now they're pushing this bullshit that all arrests lead to cardiac arrest? fuck that.
They're trying to excuse a perp resisting arrest. All they have to do is wind themselves up into a frenzy they cause themselves to have heart problems, induce a heart attack or pass out from anxiety and extreme duress and they're supposed to release the guy.
I'm pretty sure all the drugs this scumbag had in his systems caused the cardiac arrest.
Shame on Levin, Rush, et all for condemning this guy so quickly, lost tons of faith in those guys. Same republican apologetic BS that got Obama elected, cowards. Naturally they haven't covered this
The second wave of riots will come when charges are dropped in the:
Ahmaud "Jogger" Arbery Lie
George "Fentanyl" Floyd Lie
Breonna "Drug Dealer" Taylor Lie
Jacob "Rapist" Blake Lie
They will be even bigger and start shortly after Trumps reelection.
George Floyd died the way he lived: high as fuck on drugs.