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My_mobile_account 75 points ago +75 / -0

I agree with you. Cheating only goes so far. You have to actually have people vote for you too. I don’t know anyone excited to vote for joe. One or two will, some will abstain , plenty will write in Bernie. But the absolute majority are voting Trump.

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America_No_1 40 points ago +40 / -0

There will be cheating, but Trump is putting a spotlight on it and putting Democrats on notice. This serves three purposes: 1) Makes people who were thinking about cheating second guess if they should. 2) Makes people who were going to cheat back out of their plans. 3) Lets people who are going to cheat know that there could be consequences and it isn't something that will be simply overlooked or excused.

Trump's 4D chess move here is to get ahead of it and make it an issue before it can occur. It doesn't eliminate it, it just simply exposes the possibility of it which could prevent some of it from happening in the first place.

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doug2 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's not exactly 4D chess. There are much better courses of action but alas, I'm not a presidential advisor.

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My_mobile_account 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wait hold up. That was an actual thing. Republicans were banned from watching polls for three decades. What the fuck kind of bullshit is that. Is that true?

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minttea2 21 points ago +21 / -0

The Hidin campaign did not ignore the violence - they prompted and likely paid for/helped organize much of it. They just leaked to early.

And re cheating, it only works really well large scale in D dominated areas where they can cover their own back. Or involving USPS employees junking mail in ballots in Red areas of swing states.

So, in general, the best it can do (without being super obvious) is 1-4% in swing states (not including votes by illegal aliens and criminals not entitled to vote, and Dimentia parents where a nurse or similar person votes "for" Hidin).

And Hidin (or his handlers) must be worried that collusion with all the Prestitutes and Google/Facebook types (concerning what is really in-kind political contribution s) + massive unreported PAC related spending, plus the D pet unions and "free to use" paid staff + 1-4% just straight out organized fraud - - may simply not be enough.

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AmericanFreedom 15 points ago +15 / -0

Covid is redpilling more people over time.

The misrepresented risk added to the day by day pain in the ass 'New Normal' and community businesses going bust, is potent.

People are getting disillusioned on multiple fronts.

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Liberty123 30 points ago +30 / -0

Its a multi prong approach, lying, cheating, and trying to win legitimately.

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debacle 11 points ago +11 / -0

No one is going to buy a post 11/3 flip of n > 1 states.

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T_Downs 26 points ago +26 / -0

His responses to the press’ question a little bit ago seemed way off. Almost like his handlers got his pages mixed up and he couldn’t find the right sheet. Lots of staring at the podium

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Sun_Tzu 15 points ago +15 / -0

I think they are cheating, but that their cheating relies on thin margins in order to not get caught. If it was too overt it would be too easy to spot. They know he's on track to get blown out well past the point of the ballot harvesting cheat threshold.

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CisSiberianOrchestra 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yep. Cheating can only be pulled off if the race is close. The fact that Biden has decided to leave his basement makes me believe that Trump is absolutely crushing Biden in the internal polling.

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hmflagler2 14 points ago +14 / -0

No I think they need the polling to be close enough that they can continue to fudge the numbers by 10-15%. So when they steal the election over a matter of weeks of the Election Day it won’t be so obvious

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Dominick 11 points ago +11 / -0

They'd prefer that it be at least somewhat believable, but they're planning to steal the election via mail in voter fraud regardless.

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hmflagler2 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yeah well I’m also seeing that they may be doing less polling. Perhaps it will get to a point that they can’t hide it in the polls anymore. My suspicion is polling models are based on past elections and that they have no idea how many hispanic people are going to vote for Trump. And they are completely fucked

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BeerAndCope 2 points ago +2 / -0

2016 Michigan Polls - Clinton +5 2016 Michigan Result - Trump +0.23%

2016 Wisconsin Polls - Clinton +6 2016 Wisconsin Result- Trump +0.77

2016 Pennsylvania Polls - Clinton +4 2016 Pennsylvania Result-Trump +0.71

2016 Minnesota Polls - Clinton +11 2016 Minnesota Result - Clinton +1.51

2020 Michigan Poll - Trump +2 2020 Michigan Result - ?

2020 Wisconsin Poll - Trump +2 2020 Wisconsin Result- ?

2020 Pennsylvania Poll - Biden +2 2020 Pennsylvania Result - ?

2020 Minnesota Poll - Tie 2020 Minnesota Result - ?

I’d say looking at the polls from 2016 and their actual result and compare that to the 2020 polls the results should be solid Trump wins. There seems to be around a 4-6% silent Trump vote. Add that on to the 2020 polls and Trump wins MN, WI, MI, and PA with comfortable leads. That’s my theory at least.

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chewsoap 12 points ago +12 / -0

God I hope this is correct.

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DonJrJr 12 points ago +12 / -0

They will cheat just like they did in 2016. Remember when they called FL for Trump then backtracked and said "Oh we need to count ore ballots"? They didn't think FL would be absolutely necessary for a HRC win until it was too late. They're trying to avoid that happening again.

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FuckCommies 6 points ago +6 / -0

Slam Pig. Kek.

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Chuj 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is ludicrous. They want to win everything. They do not accept loss

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thisisatestof2 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yep. Just days ago, no appearance for 2+ weeks. The Trump holds rallies or makes visits and Biden comes out.

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QuantumReality 1 point ago +1 / -0

Biden has no idea what bidens positions are.

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Gulleyfoyleismyname 7 points ago +7 / -0

Like he's got ANYTHING to say about the campaign!

This fucker is a puppet with several hands up his ass!

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AngelMark 5 points ago +5 / -0

He doesnt care because he knows it doesnt matter because he will be switched out end of Sept!

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Yeahigotgoats 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's not Biden that makes the decision it's his staff, and they are well informed of the con, but even you plan on cheating you can't get blown out

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MagaMita 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's gonna be epic! Trumps's numbers will be so huge, they're gonna have a tough time adding enough ballots to win. It'll be so obvious when there's more votes than voters all over the fucking place.

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OrangeElvis 3 points ago +3 / -0

As we all now know - "insurance policies" are not enough.

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Equality72521 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think there is some marginal percentage that you are just unable to cheat past without getting caught. I mean if you get 100% of the vote it's hard to cheat another 101% to declare victory.

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LeftiesAreTheRacists 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've come around and I now think this will be the cleanest election in a while. The Democrats in 2016. It's possible without it Trump would have smoked Hillary. It will be harder this time since Trump is ready for them.

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Lol_Garrus 2 points ago +2 / -0

At some point, cheat by mail can only go so far. Theres only so many voters in the country, state, county, etc.

An overwhelming vote in person for Trump would nullify any cheat by mail fraud.

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doug2 2 points ago +2 / -0

They need to keep it close to cheat. Cheating isn't a gaurenteed victory, it sure helps, but it doesn't gaurentee anything.

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HighVoltage 2 points ago +2 / -0

Biden is not even involved in this process. He is waiting for some one to come mash his peas and bananas, feed him, and change his diaper. He has no idea where he is or where he is going.

His campaign is run by people we are not even seeing.

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Scumbag-reddit 2 points ago +2 / -0

Half true; they need to be within a 40 million vote split in order to steal it with the mail in ballots. Right now they don't have it.

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Chuj 2 points ago +2 / -0

True. The Dems are clearing paying attention to polling data (e.g., riots drive people from Dems), and changing to suit public opinion.

They scared

If they had a rock solid cheat plan they would have no reason to care

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Bianceziwo 2 points ago +2 / -0

The media wants trump to win so they can keep printing news about how the world is ending 24/7 for the next four years to make more money

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mathteach314159 2 points ago +3 / -1

Both can be true, not necessarily mutually exclusive. They probably dont want to blow their cheating scam if they don’t have to actually use it. Save it for a future election if Joe can pull this election off legitimately.

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cuntard 1 point ago +1 / -0

biden has absolutely nothing to do with his campaign. he does and says what he’s told when he’s told to.