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posted ago by keoyome ago by keoyome +81 / -0

This post is for fellow Christian Trump supporters.

Why are God's people so silent? I get so tired of moderate, non-confrontational posts by fellow Christians. The Bible is so based and redpilled (and christpilled obviously), and everyone is shaking in their boots to make blatant honest statements about what it says. The other day, I made a statement that "Utilitarianism is anti-biblical." If you don't understand why, then do your own study and research. The point is that a Christian friend accused me of being too confrontation because I made a straight-forward statement about biblical truth. Is anyone else as frustrated as I am???

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Jabblemonkey1 10 points ago +10 / -0

Many churches and seminaries have been infiltrated by commies and SJW cucks.

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keoyome [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is certainly the case, but there is also the case of Christians thinking that a word that sounds good must be good even if that concept isn't present in the Bible. It's more so that so many Christians are ignorant of what the Bible says. That is the thing that bothers me the most.

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Jabblemonkey1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, and the SJW and "liberation theology " types are among those promoting this error.

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1DontTreadOnMe1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Like the modern definition of meek vs the biblical definition

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JD12 8 points ago +8 / -0

Matthew 23:23

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

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Choppa_Pilot 7 points ago +7 / -0

Because most branches of Christianity these days have devolved into moralistic therapeutic deism: God exists to affirm all of people's terrible life-choices and let them feel all warm and fuzzy about themselves because they're "nice" and "a good person". They don't want to be confronted about their shortcomings.

The entire purpose of any religion (especially Christianity) is to challenge you to be a better person. The adherents of the Church of Niceness have forgotten that.

I'm gonna quote from a post I found on 4chan regarding the "Nice Jesus" myth:

Be nice to me, I'll be nice to you, and we'll all be happy. This is the 'whole message' of Christianity? Really? Jesus Christ preached a Truth no deeper or more complex than a slogan on a poster in a Kindergarten classroom? Really?

A provocative claim to say the least. I decided to investigate this matter, and sure enough, I found this excerpt from the Sermon on the Mount: "We're best friends like friends should be. With a great big hug and a kiss from me to you, won't you say you love me too?" Actually, wait, sorry, that's from the original Barney theme song. God help us. We've turned the Son of God into a purple dinosaur puppet.

There's no way to be certain, but most theologians believe that, despite popular perception, Christ looked nothing like this. I don't recognize this Jesus. This moderate. This pacifist. This nice guy. He's not the Jesus I read about in the Bible. I read of a strong, manly, stern, and bold Savior. Compassionate, yes. Forgiving, of course. Loving, always loving. But not particularly nice.

He condemned. He denounced. He caused trouble. He disrupted the established order. On one occasion -- or at least one recorded occasion -- He used violence. This Jesus saw the money changers in the temple and how did He respond? He wasn't polite about it. I'd even say He was downright intolerant. He fashioned a whip (this is what the lawyers would call 'premeditation') and physically drove the merchants away. He turned over tables and shouted. He caused a scene. [John 2:15]

Assault with a deadly weapon. Vandalism. Disturbing the peace. Worse still, intolerance. In two words: not nice. Not nice at all.

I'm going to add that if today's Christians are effete and nonconfrontational, it's not because we're failing to transmit the faith: it's because our society has done an extraordinarily good job of teaching the younger generation what we actually believe: that Christ and the Truth He preached are not a big deal, that God requires little of us and exists only to help us with our problems, and that church is little more than a helpful social institution filled with nice, smiling people.

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keoyome [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I love this. This is so based and so true. I tried to explain that to the guy that I was talking to that Jesus says that he came here to divide (Luke 12:49-51), so naturally, Christianity is inherently divisive. Anything that says that there is a particular objective reality is divisive by default. That's what the Bible says.

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DeadOverRed 2 points ago +2 / -0

What people miss, is that Christ's version IS nice. It is love. God is love. Love is not letting people do what they want, it's telling them what is best for them, and holding them to those expectations. We do not let our children eat candy nonstop and play in the street; we should not let our teenagers mutilate their bodies, or their purpose. That is love.

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1DontTreadOnMe1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household.

37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38 and whoever does not take up the cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Those who find their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will find it.

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massivehairycleaner 6 points ago +6 / -0

Christians have been beating each other over the head quite literally for a long time over doctrinal interpretation.

That said, I guess Christianity hasn't been safe from the cucking of western culture.

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Grillervative 5 points ago +5 / -0

I agree with you.

Walk them through Matthew 5:38-42, and explain that these are not examples of being submissive, but are examples of taking control of a situation, therefore removing others' power over you.

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America_No_1 4 points ago +4 / -0

We need a modern day version of the Knights Templar

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keoyome [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

this is how I'm feeling rn...DEUS VULT!

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DeadOverRed 2 points ago +2 / -0

He willingly went to death. He could have justifiably killed them all. He did not rebuke his follower who struck out for violence, only for not knowing it wasn't the time. He never told centurions not to be violent.

Millions will die, and Christians first, if we do nothing. What is true violence? That we mete out justice, or that we condemn generations to death?

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DeadOverRed 2 points ago +2 / -0

Me too. I try not to judge those who don't fight- it seems to be an area where we're free to choose, and live by our conscience. I mean, Jesus never said "go to war," or "don't go to war." Those who must, will, and those whose conscience urges them to die rather than fight do, I think, have that choice, and I admire it. I have kids, though, and friends, and I say we fight.

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kalokagathia 3 points ago +3 / -0

You'll like Mario Murillo.

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keoyome [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I just watched a hour long podcast with him in it. I loved it!

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Kaarous 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why are God's people so silent?

Because they aren't God's people.

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aveydey 3 points ago +3 / -0

Afraid of offending people. That's all it boils down to.

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keoyome [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

So true

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Verrerogo 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm reading William Manchester for the first time. Just a little. About early Europe, Europe after the Roman Empire, the Dark Ages and beyond into the Middle Ages. Oh boy. Some of it is scary and sad. Christianity has had, in its long past, some harsh internal conflicts. That may have left it with a legacy of over-nicey-niceness just to avoid that again.

That said, you will be fine, if you are clear on a few core verities, stick to them, and understand how they are part of the American story, because they are. And that is subtle.

The Founding Fathers had it right. They had an internal virtue that wasn't churchy, that was protestant not catholic, but that wasn't hero-worshippy, like the English veneration of the monarch as head of the church.

They forged something new. But unlike the French Revolution people, they did NOT walk away from Christianity. They re-engaged with new and simple hands.

I would say, be clear on all that, and nobody will have a word to say to you. You will be as invincible as they were.

So no it's not about yelling. MODEL and DO what those people should do. They will get the point.

That might involve regular prayer and study, and it might involve getting married and having kids, and it might involve having people eat at your house. They will get to see you calm and fine with thanking God for the food they are about to eat.

It's the calm and the action that teach the best.

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keoyome [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I definitely believe that modeling is the best way to teach someone, but with regards to our day, a lot of what needs changing is cultural. The only way to address culture is to confront it head on. I don't yell at people. I simply tell them in straight-forward terms that the Bible doesn't say this or that. Ultimately, the reason the left has taken so much ground is because they go around screaming about this or that, and the conservative and conservative Christian response is to ignore and live righteously; however, this does not address the leftist screeching and allows many to be "converted" to the left's new secular religion. The only way out of this is to speak up. When someone shouts that "abortion is healthcare," I've made up my mind to shout back "abortion is murder" because I've realized that the calm approach is much less effective because it is often drowned out by leftist screeching.

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Verrerogo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good point. Agree.

Abortion is not often done inside marriage, as far as I know. In general, marrying is the cure for most of the abortion issue, perhaps.

But what I meant is that Christianity needs every breathing body it can get.

And it has to be a balance between uplift and self discipline. While Christianity suffers from too-nicey-nice, it also suffers just as much from "oh that's the fire and brimstone, monsters under the bed, needlessly mean and scary stuff. Nope. Life is for living and enjoying. No need for all those freaky terrors."

So some kind of balance has to be restored, perhaps. Not easy. Yes, yell away. You convince me.

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thewordwolf 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wait till the true apostate church shows up.

They'll be endorsing anti-christ.

Just read about Jesus going into the temple and what he did to the moneychangers. He WHIPPED them. That's the real Christ we serve.

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omnigamer777 2 points ago +2 / -0

Me too. I'm tired of everyone being too afraid to speak out against the blatant attack on our freedoms.

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Kozio_ 2 points ago +2 / -0

This guy explains the failure of modern day christianity perfectly https://youtu.be/blTBjvWRPHk

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keoyome [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

YAAAAAAAAAAS! I just watched something from Lance Wallnau as well. I'm glad there are more and more based Christians in media!

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1DontTreadOnMe1 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'll give you a hint. It's because they aren't really Christians.

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keoyome [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Definitely pray about it. God definitely has a place for you. He can lead you to right where you need to be.

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DeadOverRed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because they aren't Christians. Yes, I'm with you, so frustrated.

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keoyome [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

You know, I disagree with you on this point. I think many are Christians, but they don't see God's identity correctly. They only see the lamb when the Bible depicts God as a lion and a lamb. Modern Christianity has tried to be so "seeker-friendly" that the notion of the fierce side of God (depicted both old and new testament) has been completely phased out of their theology. They believe in God, but they think that God is here to serve them rather than the other way around.

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DeadOverRed 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think it's a tool of Satan. "Live and let live" is not a Biblical strategy. We are to rebuke our brothers when they are wrong, and help them to the path of right. Letting people continue in sin is not love. Christians don't let brothers leave the path without a fight.

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keoyome [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree!

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thewordwolf 1 point ago +1 / -0

'These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me.'

They're not real Christians. The scripture is clear on this. You know how we (unfortunately) have RINOs?

These are CINOs.