Five countries, with eyes coming in sets of two, so 10 eyes total. Yet only called five eyes. Five on the external enemies and 5 on the citizens within those countries.
Meanwhile at Amazon/Google/Alphabet co/Discovercards: "We're still doing bulk collection, facial capturing, shadow accounts, and pushing public policy to get cameras and AI ID'ing software everywhere right?"
So basically they held that the old collection program- the one no longer in place since enactment of the so called USA FREEDOM act in 2015- violated the FISA statute. They did not reach the question of constitutionality because it was unnecessary for the ruling. So basically, as you suspected this will have absolutely 0 effect on NSA spying.
They only destroy data when they run out of storage, and if they have evidence of crimes and treason they don’t delete. It is kept for blackmail purposes. You will never be allowed to see it, but don’t think they don’t have and use it for nefarious purposes.
If the NSA indeed has all the phone and text records of the global pedo network, which go back over a decade and otherwise have been erased by their service providers and therefore cant be subpoenaed, and a federal court had just declared that the NSA collected all this information illegally, then it stands to reason that this information wouod no longer be admissable as evidence in a court of law. This is a win for the pedos. I want to fix the NSA, but after the pedos are locked up.
As long as Roberts is in charge of FISAs, which are unconstitutional to begin with, we’re fucked no matter. He’s obviously compromised and should be impeached and removed.
The government knew it was illegal and did it anyway Why you ask?
Because they knew that it would take years(decades?) for a court to stop them. This is the M.O. of a corrupt government. They break the law and dare the slow toothless justice system to stop them.
The same thing happens with gun laws, the same is happening with Covid bullshit, the same thing happened with Japanese internment. It's not a glitch, it's a feature.
You can look at this as a loss with partial republican control, while there is a bunch of communist thugs and terrorist cells hiding within our country, who have done horrible things in the past, and have current active plots, but!- the loss of control of intelligence at such a high level for all parties, for the governing party, it is a benefit to us all.
They will always find a way to get around these restrictions though. Can they really dismantle such a powerful utility? Is it as simple as flipping a switch? How about our allies and shared intelligence, circumventing spying on our own people?
My cynical side thinks that it is pretty fucking convenient that this comes after the Trump investigations are over and after Ghislaine Maxwell is arrested about to flip and Antifa is in deep shit, but I guess this is good long term.
How convenient. After 20 years of absolutely pissing on our rights the courts decide these methods are unconstitutional at the exact same time that commies are being surveilled for open insurrection and sedition.
Huh. I didn't know the ACLU still fought for uncucked causes. They might find Trump on their side -here- pretty soon: pardoning Snowden, or such-like. It will irk the ACLU; it will amuse me; it will be glorious. MAGA.
It is amazing to me seeing a headline like this. It's circa 1987 ACLU. The ACLU being compromised by foreign states and leftists completely discredits them today. While I support civil liberty, and am thankful that the demoncrats won't have this power, I'd rather see the ACLU deported to their new masters in Mexico City.
Meanwhile at the NSA:
"So, we're still doing the bulk collections, right?"
"Yep."
No, no, they stopped. Now they do mass collections.
I read your statement as they're doing mask collections.
Hahah that would be great. Back on our side.
Pelosi heard flask collections. 🏃🏻♀️💨
Five Eyes needs to be scattered to the winds
so each country is only using one? wtf is the other 5 doing? that is the real question
Each of the five is sharing their mass data collection with one another. It's dystopian. What?
Five countries, with eyes coming in sets of two, so 10 eyes total. Yet only called five eyes. Five on the external enemies and 5 on the citizens within those countries.
Yes it is dystopian and a total shit show
What, you don't want Sadiq Khan's office submitting requests for a 'security assessment' of you and your family?
"Just find a more secret storage location first."
Why do you think we're going back to the moon.
So do I get paid now or something? Or is this just another sternly worded letter of shame.
Lindsey Grahamcracker will write it up
Meanwhile at Amazon/Google/Alphabet co/Discovercards: "We're still doing bulk collection, facial capturing, shadow accounts, and pushing public policy to get cameras and AI ID'ing software everywhere right?"
ACLU thinking the ruling is good makes me question the ruling. Anyone got a link?
So basically they held that the old collection program- the one no longer in place since enactment of the so called USA FREEDOM act in 2015- violated the FISA statute. They did not reach the question of constitutionality because it was unnecessary for the ruling. So basically, as you suspected this will have absolutely 0 effect on NSA spying.
They only destroy data when they run out of storage, and if they have evidence of crimes and treason they don’t delete. It is kept for blackmail purposes. You will never be allowed to see it, but don’t think they don’t have and use it for nefarious purposes.
That's what I thought.
https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2020/09/02/13-50572.pdf
Haven't read it yet, but given the summary- violation of FISA act didn't warrant suppression of evidence- seems like a nothing burger.
This is the onw thing they're still good on!
ACLU hasn’t gotten the memo from Soros yet.
Also the ACLU: "Sex with children is a civil right and self defense isn't!"
Also the ACLU: police can't live stream bodycam footage because it makes our side look bad
They are trying to protect someone. We know it's not the American people so the real question is who.
If the NSA indeed has all the phone and text records of the global pedo network, which go back over a decade and otherwise have been erased by their service providers and therefore cant be subpoenaed, and a federal court had just declared that the NSA collected all this information illegally, then it stands to reason that this information wouod no longer be admissable as evidence in a court of law. This is a win for the pedos. I want to fix the NSA, but after the pedos are locked up.
FISA has entered the chat.
Is it though? NSA does not care. And i wonder what Barr’s rebuilding of FISA will do for NSA
As long as Roberts is in charge of FISAs, which are unconstitutional to begin with, we’re fucked no matter. He’s obviously compromised and should be impeached and removed.
He’s not compromised. He’s a closet pinko commie. Check out his college papers
[Ron]I don’t believe you[/Burgandy]
Either way, remove his ass.
John Roberts, I’ve got something for you: 🖕🏻
ACLU @ACLU
We're fighting for your rights to molest children.
Democrats, State representatives, and mayors everywhere lock people on their homes and take away their rights.
ACLU response:
So now we can change our phone numbers? Guarantee Silicon Valley has it all and China.
ACLU : Which party has the White House again ? The GOP ? OK, NSA is bad !
Actually they were against this program during Obama years also
Like I said the only thing they are good on
Didn’t Barr say they had phone records? I wonder if this is a ploy to invalidate evidence before the hammer comes down.
fuck the ACLU. the only reason they actually pursued this is because the masters told their dogs to protect them.
but nothing will happen
Now that they’re starting a civil war the left (represented by the ACLU) doesn’t want the government listening to calls.
Cool, now do Tic-Tok and Farcebook owned WhatsApp (encripted) which I dumped as soon as Zuck bought it.
I'd rather have the NSA than the ACLU
The government knew it was illegal and did it anyway Why you ask?
Because they knew that it would take years(decades?) for a court to stop them. This is the M.O. of a corrupt government. They break the law and dare the slow toothless justice system to stop them.
The same thing happens with gun laws, the same is happening with Covid bullshit, the same thing happened with Japanese internment. It's not a glitch, it's a feature.
They do this now because they dont want to be caught on tape go ing orders to antifa or cheating the election.
Snowden vindication when?
So Snowden should now get whistleblower protections and/or a full pardon right?
You can look at this as a loss with partial republican control, while there is a bunch of communist thugs and terrorist cells hiding within our country, who have done horrible things in the past, and have current active plots, but!- the loss of control of intelligence at such a high level for all parties, for the governing party, it is a benefit to us all.
They will always find a way to get around these restrictions though. Can they really dismantle such a powerful utility? Is it as simple as flipping a switch? How about our allies and shared intelligence, circumventing spying on our own people?
Question for the Pedes, did they ever stop Operation Mockingbird? I have doubts
So now the ACLU gives a shit about civil liberties again?
My cynical side thinks that it is pretty fucking convenient that this comes after the Trump investigations are over and after Ghislaine Maxwell is arrested about to flip and Antifa is in deep shit, but I guess this is good long term.
How convenient. After 20 years of absolutely pissing on our rights the courts decide these methods are unconstitutional at the exact same time that commies are being surveilled for open insurrection and sedition.
Big govt, Big tech, Big dick up our asses
I'm sure these companies will do the right thing.....
regardless fuck the ACLUe
What about Snowden then....hmmm..
Now do Google, FB, Twitter, Microsoft, et al
Here's the thing. What the fuck is the NSA doing with all that? They're not catching the antifa terrorists.
Fuck the ACLU.
Legal schmegal....it won’t stop anybody
Fuck the ACLU
Great. Now do FISA.
Huh. I didn't know the ACLU still fought for uncucked causes. They might find Trump on their side -here- pretty soon: pardoning Snowden, or such-like. It will irk the ACLU; it will amuse me; it will be glorious. MAGA.
The ACLU is actively against civil liberties. Or maybe this somehow just exposes children to horrific things. Everything they do is shit lately.
Just in time to try to stop connecting the Dems to anti-fuh.
"Riiiiiighttt. Oops! Yeah we're totally gonna stop now."
ACLU only cares now because it affects their ANTIFA and BLM operatives.
This ruling only aplied to analog rotary phones. You can use those safely now. You're welcome!
B. Lamar Whitey Esquire
Speshul Rap-ar-ations Divishun
ACLU
The fact that Obama didn’t get flak for this shows how inept the Republican Party was and still is. Thank god Trump came along.
Now if the ACLU would just jump on board for 1A and 2A, that would be great...
Or, you know, all the parts that come before those two too.
Not no..
Terrific. Now get them to surrender all the databases and wipe them from existence.
It is amazing to me seeing a headline like this. It's circa 1987 ACLU. The ACLU being compromised by foreign states and leftists completely discredits them today. While I support civil liberty, and am thankful that the demoncrats won't have this power, I'd rather see the ACLU deported to their new masters in Mexico City.
Now ACLU should do #2A
The ACLU are shut.