Contrary to urban myth, NASA did use the metric system for the Apollo Moon landings. SI units were used for arguably the most critical part of the missions – the calculations that were carried out by the Lunar Module’s onboard Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC) during the computer-controlled phases of the spacecraft’s descent to the surface of the Moon, and for the journey of the Ascent stage of the craft during its return to lunar orbit, where it would rendezvous with the Command and Service Module (CSM).
NASA has decided to use metric units for all operations on the lunar surface when it returns to the Moon. The Vision for Space Exploration calls for returning astronauts to the Moon by 2020 and eventually setting up a manned lunar outpost.
Fahrenheit is the superior measurement for day to day temperature. If you have to add a decimal place to get an accurate scale for comfortable weather it’s a garbage metric (pun intended).
Scientists use metric, as they should. But for the average person day-to-day, imperial is better.
I am not water. I don’t need to know if I can boil water by setting a pan of it outside my door (well I would if it were the case but it’s not an everyday occurrence). A 0-100 scale where 0 is pretty damn cold and 100 is pretty damn hot is intuitive.
If celcius was superior for this purpose you wouldn’t need decimal places. I’m not arguing its use in the scientific community
Wow, that’s so helpful when deciding how to dress in the morning! I’m glad that celcius makes it so easy for me to know whether I will boil off into the atmosphere or freeze into a solid block (or at least 75-80% of me)!
Learning imperial first is my guess as to why people hold it so dear. But when working with units of measurement there's hardly a debate at which one is preferable. Which is why most of the world uses the metric system.
I have used a mix of metric and imperial my entire life. We have to fluently switch because different fields of study and practice hew to one or the other.
The only thing "better" about metric is its base-10 orientation, and not only does that not survive contact with the real world, but it addresses only the least meaningful part of science or engineering: Arithmetic.
If slightly more complex arithmetic is a barrier to somebody's entry into a field of study, then perhaps that particular individual has no business pursuing that field.
Metric for construction makes sense. Everyone arguing in favor of imperial is doing so for its day to day use. Fahrenheit is superior for measuring comfortable air temperature.
It’s easier to quickly asses a persons height in feet and inches than cm because each foot is almost a different category and inches are the range within it. In cm it’s averaged somewhere In the 150s.
Weight doesn’t make too much of a difference, and as someone who bakes I use grams for dry measurements but cups and tbs is better for liquid measurement. Also I want to know the price of gas in gallons since it makes multiplication and estimating my bill easier.
There are good arguments for each in context. Canada using a mix of the two systems is one of the few things they get right (except they should put gas in $/gallon).
Let me chime in here with a word in favor of “Customary Measures”.
12 is a great number. 3x2x2 means it divides evenly into thirds and fourths. That’s useful for carpenters etc.
Consider the calendar, the year divides into three month quarters by equinoxes and solstices. The French Revolution did away with that. There was a strictly decimal calendar. (It started with 1789 as year 1).
The Clock is another example 12x5 is 60. It’s very convenient to reckon in quarter hours. Again the French Revolution did away with it. There was decimal time.
We retain the metric measures from that Lunatic asylum of a country, (Revolutionary France) because it seems logical to decimalize measures, but it’s not.
12 is your friend. Even the Sumerians were big fans. The 12 hour day, 360 degree circles etc. originate there.
I’ve been searching for evidence of a French Revolutionary Zodiac, but haven’t found it.
Finally; Plato’s Atlantis number, 5040
Earth diameter 3960 miles.
Moon diameter 1080 miles.
1080+3960=5040. 5040 is 1x2x3x4x5x6x7, also 7x8x9x10.
Try that with kilometers.
What’s 1/3 meter? 333.33333333... mm. That is there IS no accurate 1/3 meter.
If you ever worked with the metric system you realize it has downsides as well as upsides. Just like imperial. But the downsides for metric are far less egregious. Which, again, is why most of the world still uses the metric system.
Don't let public school indoctrination and misguided patriotism dictate something as useful as the metric system.
For casual laymen's discussiona I'll grant you and everyone else fahrenheit is easier but that comes at a cost its ass can't check when it comes to anything else. Metric can cover that cost and more. And it does every second of the day.
Of course I’m somewhat anachronistic.
I understand the military using metric to be compatible with allies. Numbers however are more than utilitarian. They exist independently of humanity. (They’re sacred) They have properties and symbolic meaning beyond their mundane usefulness. Of course it seems arcane, or even obtuse to bitterly cling to my 12 Apostles, 4 Gospels, 3 Persons of The Holy Trinity, 7 days of creation, to say nothing of Pythagorean and Iamblichan numerology. The Revolutionary French were insane, thus their insistence on “Reason”. (If you’re really crazy, you’ll utterly deny it.) They wished to purge the world of religion and tradition, and I’m opposed to them with all my heart. They hated 12. I hate them back for 12s sake.
Antifa and BLM are the new sans coulottes. Jacobins! They’re the terror all over again. So I say, Decimal! Bah, Humbug!
Yeah all right you definitely lost any credibility when you start bringing up the bloody bible, of all things, in the defense on the imperial system.
Religion has nothing to do with numbers, science, or math. Take your tinfoil hat off man, those of us in favour of the metric system think about the bible as a reason for adopting it as much as we think about flamingos.
It was a joke, at my own expense.
I’m a funny old crackpot.
Ancient mathematicians had no decimals, and no concept of Zero. Everything was proportion. Pi was 7/22 for instance. They revered number for its own sake, and took it as evidence of divine organization in creation. They also believed Earth to be the center of the universe, so they seem idiotic by today’s standards. Maybe my humor is obtuse.
The joke is: Someday we’ll seem stupid to our descendants.
I once expended considerable mental energy on ancient metrology. Maybe you weren’t aware that the meter was originally intended as a geodetic measure.
1 Ten Millionth of one quarter of the earths
circumference. The observational astronomic methods employed in 1793 were insufficient, so they fudged it. (Yes, they did) Now it’s precisely defined by wavelength of light. It’s a fine system. 10 to 6 is a good ratio. Pine cones are 10 to 6.
Flamingos I don’t know, but if one mapped their dynamic symmetry they’d find our old friend Phi (1.61803...) It’s everywhere.
All of science is based around the metric system. Chemistry, physics, medicine, ect. It's not the common core people. It's literally every other country and the entire scientific community.
Komarov was murdered by the Soviets because they couldn’t stand to lose but their engineers were horseshit. They all knew that ship wasn’t going to land. Have you ever seen the photo of his corpse? It could fit into a small suitcase. They all knew it was a suicide mission, but he chose to fly it to protect his friend, Gagarin, who had a young child.
The metric system is inferior for one reason: The centigrade scale. It's an objectively worse temperature scale, for normal, every-day human use. Celsius compresses the normal range of surface temperatures into basically 50 degrees, a quarter of which are in the negatives. Negative 5 degrees Celsius isn't even that fucking cold!
You hardly ever see people express a Fahrenheit temperature as a decimal number, but it's common with Centigrade. I rest my case. Shit scale, shit system.
Exactly. Centigrade should have just been replaced by Kelvin, and been used only as a scientific scale. Fahrenheit is still best for normal human uses.
I have never seen anyone use a decimal point to refer to the temperature in celsius. It is simply that you don't like it. Honestly it is better for me because in my climate, 0 is pretty much as cold as it gets.
And you go to Canada and they use the imperial system. The only metric is the speed limits. Weights and lengths they use imperial. Except at the grocery store they show you a price in imperial eg 0.46/lb for bananas and on the receipts they charge you in metric so you can’t tell if they made a mistake.
Don't they use liters for gas as well? That way when you cross the border and see $1.25/liter you think it's a good deal, meanwhile they are ass raping you because it's more like x4 per gallon. Canada's confusing.
They do. The first time I drove through Canada I pulled up to get gas and was like "Hot damn a 1.25!" only to have my dreams shattered when I saw liters.
I know the metric system is easier to convert blah blah blah, heck I still can't remember how many feet are in a mile. But I tell yah wat. An inch and a foot just feel like very natural, human measurements to me.
My issue with the Metric System is the constant need for scientists to redefine what each measurement is. It used to be a cubic centimeter of water at sea level was a gram/milliliter - giving volume, mass, and distance measurements all in one. But over the years each one of those has constantly been redefined to the point where it's ridiculous like how a centimeter is the distance light travels in 0.000000000001 seconds or something stupid like that.
Meanwhile, the Imperial System hasn't had to change its definitions for squat. The Foot now is the same as a foot a hundred years ago.
Metric bros might say they're more exact/precise now, but to me, that comes off as an excuse.
Scientists constantly redefine everything with extra rules. It's kinda their job...to complicate things....then charge you money to explain said overly complicated things.....kinda a scam but what are you going to do?
The argue over the diameter of the Earth, the height of Mt. Everest, the definition of life, dark energy, ect.
‘Say millimeter again!’
So that's why ammo is so confusing.
There's also a lot of other reasons too tbh.
The vast majority of countries on this planet have adopted the metric system.
One of the minority of countries that have not is the only country that ever planted its flag on the moon.
"How many Kilometers is it to the moon you landed on. Oh... wait..."
This burns... in Fahrenheit.
https://ukma.org.uk/why-metric/myths/metric-internationally/the-moon-landings/
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2007/08jan_metricmoon/
It was a joke. We've been using a mix of the metric system forever.
Metric system accepts you apology. Be well fren.
And it's not even true, we use millimeters and caliber.
The military uses the metric system too.
Despite all the circle jerking I think the metric system is better. Wish we'd adopt it.
Fahrenheit is the superior measurement for day to day temperature. If you have to add a decimal place to get an accurate scale for comfortable weather it’s a garbage metric (pun intended).
Scientists use metric, as they should. But for the average person day-to-day, imperial is better.
Fahrenheit is not good. Celsius is so much easier.
0.is freezing. Water turns to ice at 0 degrees celsius.
100 is boiling. Water boils at 100 celsius.
In comparison Fahrenheit is a cluster fuck
I am not water. I don’t need to know if I can boil water by setting a pan of it outside my door (well I would if it were the case but it’s not an everyday occurrence). A 0-100 scale where 0 is pretty damn cold and 100 is pretty damn hot is intuitive.
If celcius was superior for this purpose you wouldn’t need decimal places. I’m not arguing its use in the scientific community
Hey Dr. Big Brain. You are literally 75-80% water. So yes you are indeed majority water. Please stop!
Wow, that’s so helpful when deciding how to dress in the morning! I’m glad that celcius makes it so easy for me to know whether I will boil off into the atmosphere or freeze into a solid block (or at least 75-80% of me)!
Learning imperial first is my guess as to why people hold it so dear. But when working with units of measurement there's hardly a debate at which one is preferable. Which is why most of the world uses the metric system.
I have used a mix of metric and imperial my entire life. We have to fluently switch because different fields of study and practice hew to one or the other.
The only thing "better" about metric is its base-10 orientation, and not only does that not survive contact with the real world, but it addresses only the least meaningful part of science or engineering: Arithmetic.
If slightly more complex arithmetic is a barrier to somebody's entry into a field of study, then perhaps that particular individual has no business pursuing that field.
THAT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU DEFINED IT TO MEAN THAT! REEEEEEEEE!!!
Do you measure the temperature of water or air more often?
"My car gets fourty rods to the hogshead and that's the way I like it"
You're a filthy globalist cuck.
Right, okay. My business gives 13 local Floridians jobs.
We work in a construction related field. Metric system is just much more convenient.
But go on then. Stay up on your high horse and call a fellow pede names.
I'm sorry dude I was being totally sarcastic, didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
Preferring one unit of measurement over another does not make you a cuck 😆
No problem, rereading it now I see it. Sometimes hard to tell in the internet ya know.
Yeah no worries, hard to tell on the internet. Keep up the good real world work brother!
Wow a metricpilled Floridian....I'm shocked. Keep up the good fight Florida pede.
Appreciated. Cheers, fellow Floridian!
Metric for construction makes sense. Everyone arguing in favor of imperial is doing so for its day to day use. Fahrenheit is superior for measuring comfortable air temperature.
It’s easier to quickly asses a persons height in feet and inches than cm because each foot is almost a different category and inches are the range within it. In cm it’s averaged somewhere In the 150s.
Weight doesn’t make too much of a difference, and as someone who bakes I use grams for dry measurements but cups and tbs is better for liquid measurement. Also I want to know the price of gas in gallons since it makes multiplication and estimating my bill easier.
There are good arguments for each in context. Canada using a mix of the two systems is one of the few things they get right (except they should put gas in $/gallon).
Let me chime in here with a word in favor of “Customary Measures”.
12 is a great number. 3x2x2 means it divides evenly into thirds and fourths. That’s useful for carpenters etc.
Consider the calendar, the year divides into three month quarters by equinoxes and solstices. The French Revolution did away with that. There was a strictly decimal calendar. (It started with 1789 as year 1).
The Clock is another example 12x5 is 60. It’s very convenient to reckon in quarter hours. Again the French Revolution did away with it. There was decimal time.
We retain the metric measures from that Lunatic asylum of a country, (Revolutionary France) because it seems logical to decimalize measures, but it’s not.
12 is your friend. Even the Sumerians were big fans. The 12 hour day, 360 degree circles etc. originate there.
I’ve been searching for evidence of a French Revolutionary Zodiac, but haven’t found it.
Finally; Plato’s Atlantis number, 5040
Earth diameter 3960 miles. Moon diameter 1080 miles. 1080+3960=5040. 5040 is 1x2x3x4x5x6x7, also 7x8x9x10.
Try that with kilometers.
What’s 1/3 meter? 333.33333333... mm. That is there IS no accurate 1/3 meter.
If you ever worked with the metric system you realize it has downsides as well as upsides. Just like imperial. But the downsides for metric are far less egregious. Which, again, is why most of the world still uses the metric system.
Don't let public school indoctrination and misguided patriotism dictate something as useful as the metric system.
For casual laymen's discussiona I'll grant you and everyone else fahrenheit is easier but that comes at a cost its ass can't check when it comes to anything else. Metric can cover that cost and more. And it does every second of the day.
Of course I’m somewhat anachronistic.
I understand the military using metric to be compatible with allies. Numbers however are more than utilitarian. They exist independently of humanity. (They’re sacred) They have properties and symbolic meaning beyond their mundane usefulness. Of course it seems arcane, or even obtuse to bitterly cling to my 12 Apostles, 4 Gospels, 3 Persons of The Holy Trinity, 7 days of creation, to say nothing of Pythagorean and Iamblichan numerology. The Revolutionary French were insane, thus their insistence on “Reason”. (If you’re really crazy, you’ll utterly deny it.) They wished to purge the world of religion and tradition, and I’m opposed to them with all my heart. They hated 12. I hate them back for 12s sake.
Antifa and BLM are the new sans coulottes. Jacobins! They’re the terror all over again. So I say, Decimal! Bah, Humbug!
(I joke around a lot too)
Yeah all right you definitely lost any credibility when you start bringing up the bloody bible, of all things, in the defense on the imperial system.
Religion has nothing to do with numbers, science, or math. Take your tinfoil hat off man, those of us in favour of the metric system think about the bible as a reason for adopting it as much as we think about flamingos.
It was a joke, at my own expense. I’m a funny old crackpot.
Ancient mathematicians had no decimals, and no concept of Zero. Everything was proportion. Pi was 7/22 for instance. They revered number for its own sake, and took it as evidence of divine organization in creation. They also believed Earth to be the center of the universe, so they seem idiotic by today’s standards. Maybe my humor is obtuse.
The joke is: Someday we’ll seem stupid to our descendants.
I once expended considerable mental energy on ancient metrology. Maybe you weren’t aware that the meter was originally intended as a geodetic measure. 1 Ten Millionth of one quarter of the earths circumference. The observational astronomic methods employed in 1793 were insufficient, so they fudged it. (Yes, they did) Now it’s precisely defined by wavelength of light. It’s a fine system. 10 to 6 is a good ratio. Pine cones are 10 to 6.
Flamingos I don’t know, but if one mapped their dynamic symmetry they’d find our old friend Phi (1.61803...) It’s everywhere.
The auto industry is entirely in the metric system
All of science is based around the metric system. Chemistry, physics, medicine, ect. It's not the common core people. It's literally every other country and the entire scientific community.
You know what the call a .308 in France?
What?
A 7.62. We don't have the goddamn metric system.
I heard they call it a royale with cheese.
Le big mac
Our Astronauts travestied nearly 70,000 leagues to land on the Moon. While The USSR was Crashing back to earth at 200 kilometers per hour.
Komarov was murdered by the Soviets because they couldn’t stand to lose but their engineers were horseshit. They all knew that ship wasn’t going to land. Have you ever seen the photo of his corpse? It could fit into a small suitcase. They all knew it was a suicide mission, but he chose to fly it to protect his friend, Gagarin, who had a young child.
AND he demanded an open-coffin funeral so that when they buried him as a hero, everyone could see how they killed him.
The metric system is inferior for one reason: The centigrade scale. It's an objectively worse temperature scale, for normal, every-day human use. Celsius compresses the normal range of surface temperatures into basically 50 degrees, a quarter of which are in the negatives. Negative 5 degrees Celsius isn't even that fucking cold!
You hardly ever see people express a Fahrenheit temperature as a decimal number, but it's common with Centigrade. I rest my case. Shit scale, shit system.
0°C this is a bit chilly! 100°C my skin is boiling!
Exactly. Centigrade should have just been replaced by Kelvin, and been used only as a scientific scale. Fahrenheit is still best for normal human uses.
I had never considered it in the way you said. I definitely had a hmm moment. Thanks!
I have never seen anyone use a decimal point to refer to the temperature in celsius. It is simply that you don't like it. Honestly it is better for me because in my climate, 0 is pretty much as cold as it gets.
And you go to Canada and they use the imperial system. The only metric is the speed limits. Weights and lengths they use imperial. Except at the grocery store they show you a price in imperial eg 0.46/lb for bananas and on the receipts they charge you in metric so you can’t tell if they made a mistake.
Don't they use liters for gas as well? That way when you cross the border and see $1.25/liter you think it's a good deal, meanwhile they are ass raping you because it's more like x4 per gallon. Canada's confusing.
They do. The first time I drove through Canada I pulled up to get gas and was like "Hot damn a 1.25!" only to have my dreams shattered when I saw liters.
Yeah they do.
It's kind of random which things are metric in Canada. Height is often imperial. Distance is metric, but lengths are 50/50 for both.
"I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing."
"Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead".
hhehe great
Not even all of them, either.
They got the metric system over there. They don't know what the fuck a .30 caliber is.
Do you see a sign that says deciliter storage out front?
Nine millimeter, with cheese.
Position of Fuck You
I know the metric system is easier to convert blah blah blah, heck I still can't remember how many feet are in a mile. But I tell yah wat. An inch and a foot just feel like very natural, human measurements to me.
My .45 says fuck off.
My .308 agrees.
And invented computers deliberately to break the definitions of Kilo and Mega.
ME WOKE BIG BRAIN
.45 acp. Come at me world boy!
Whenever we have this thread:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z5-s-4KPtD8
Fuck the dog shit metric system.
Language needs toned down but very true.
Say 'the metric system is better" one more time! I dare you, I double dare you motherfucker!
Change my mind:
Imperial vs. Metric is a conspiracy to force us to buy twice as many wrenches and sockets.
In Potato, they don't call it 'potato stew', they just call it 'stew'.
Quentin Tarantino is a cuck
I demand my bullets be measured in American freedom units.
"What caliber?"
"Quarter inch."
Bullets, cpu temperatures, and physics
Imperial is great for measuring the body for clothing. It's weird how well it works.
I just spiked my phone on the damn floor
It DOES help the enemies doctors when patching up the holes.
My issue with the Metric System is the constant need for scientists to redefine what each measurement is. It used to be a cubic centimeter of water at sea level was a gram/milliliter - giving volume, mass, and distance measurements all in one. But over the years each one of those has constantly been redefined to the point where it's ridiculous like how a centimeter is the distance light travels in 0.000000000001 seconds or something stupid like that.
Meanwhile, the Imperial System hasn't had to change its definitions for squat. The Foot now is the same as a foot a hundred years ago.
Metric bros might say they're more exact/precise now, but to me, that comes off as an excuse.
Scientists constantly redefine everything with extra rules. It's kinda their job...to complicate things....then charge you money to explain said overly complicated things.....kinda a scam but what are you going to do?
The argue over the diameter of the Earth, the height of Mt. Everest, the definition of life, dark energy, ect.
And alcohol.
Am engineer - we use both all the time and whatever is convenient. It's no big deal and we use software (hello Solidworks) and let it figure it out.