OP is right, and Trump has said as much. He does not want his supporters fighting in the streets, leave it to law enforcement.
The law and order issue will sink Democrats in the Fall. If Trump supporters continue to go out and get into melees in the streets it will muddy the waters and prevent the Democrats from destroying themselves on this issue. And, it won't do anything to actually solve the problem.
What's even the goal of Proud Boys going to Portland? It serves no purpose to our goals and is only a risk and a liability if something goes wrong.
Public opinion is shifting our way. The public now sees that BLM and Antifa are violent. Polling shows this. Don't mess it up with some dumb Proud Boys march.
STAY OUT OF PORTLAND. The business owners are turning on the protesters. Let them figure it out for themselves and it let be an example of how Democrat run cities are failures.
We can all reach out. Go to their website endantifa.com and email them, tell them not to go and to play it smart until after the election. That's when the gloves come off
My account is not new. We've seen this set-up, before. Let's not be gullible. The riots exist where the Democratic mayors encourage them. They want another Charlottesville.
Don't be stupid.
Pay attention to what Trump said. Leave it to law enforcement.
No worries. Glad you cleared it up. I was just curious if this false flag was real, because I don't think PB going to Portland is a good idea. I actually wanted that to be a false flag.
Thats not a source for what the OP was saying. Thats a false site gathering PB info to dox them. Im wondering where the info is that says the PB coming to Portland is fake.
endantifa.com is not the proudboys website and not where they release information. I'm trying to find the quote.
Interestingly, it was registered in 2019 and until this week has been nothing but a URL redirector to a change.org or whatever petition site to "label antifa a terrorist organization". Not something "Proud Boys" would do with a URL.
If they can spin an unprovoked execution into 'muh yt supremecy' then they will spin he ever living fuck out of anything the proudboys do. The proudboys could do CPR on a collapsed black person and the media would run the headline "Proudboys crush black man's ribs in violent mob confrontation".
Yes patience is key. Listen to your president. He has a plan and it is working. The Wokeists are turning the entire country on themselves. If Proud Boys show up it will be massively used against Trump supporters in the media.
The day after elections day? Do whatever the damn hell you want. They will be rioting like never before after Trump wins so roll up with a van full of miniguns for all I care at that point but not now.
Patience now will win this propaganda battle... so we can all win the war.
I like the proud boys and think they have the right to protest peacefully wherever they want.
HOWEVER, you have to be fucking retarded to think the antifags aren't going to instigate them into fighting. Then that footage is going to be edited and blasted everywhere right before the election.
If the proud boys really want to be useful they should
All volunteer as poll workers and serve as protection
For conservative voters in liberal areas on the day of the election. Just my 2€
Trump needs to call them out, on Twitter, before anything happens. Just say something like 'I admire your spirit but please leave it to law enforcement. I do not condone violence of any kind'.
The problem is, now that it's announced, even if they now don't go to Portland, all Antifa has to do is dress like a Proud Boy, have them "attack" Antifa or anyone else, and then the media has all they need to smear them until the election. This won't help Trump or anyone else.
1000% agree, the left will continually do things to make us angry to get us to lash out. The key is to make them keep looking like chimps in the street, the more they riot and destroy things the worse they look.
It's too late at this point. They've published the appearance. As Tim Pool was pointing out, at this point it doesn't matter if they show up or not at this point. Someone will dress up as a PB and get a photo op of doing something horrible.
I think as long as the Proud Boys fly their flags and are surrounded by police and then leave, it should be fine.
No use having pitched battles but if they are going to have them, stay close to each other, fight hard and then get the fuck out of Portland in a tight group.
Check out timcast IRL from last night. Tim talks about exactly what a lot of people here are thinking. Antifa will start shit, proud boys will retaliate and media will only report on what the proud boys did to make right wingers look bad and evil. Charlottesville 2.0.
Unfortunately, the right isn’t a monolith in lockstep with orders coming from the top down that everybody follows like the left. Sometimes you get certain groups that want to do their own thing without contemplating the national repercussions or optics of their actions. Cracking commie skulls seems like the right thing to do but the country is already stressed with the violence and we need a de-escalation. Let the left destroy themselves and law & order run its course.
by this time it is pretty much whoever was capable of looking at things rationally has already done so and whoever has not done so yet, is incapable of changing or making up their minds.
This is a terrible idea and does nothing but hurt Trump. I suggest everyone emails them on their website and asks them to be smart and wait until AFTER the election. We need to look to Trump for guidance and outsmart the commie scum, don't play into their hands. The dems tried for months to force Trump into invoking the insurrection act so they could scream fascist, but he instead out smarts them and deputizes state police. We MUST follow the lead of our commander and chief and play this smart until election day. 4D chess, not checkers
Antifa does what the MSM wants. You want 'Moms' and 'Dads'? Antifa puts on costumes. What is going to stop Portland Marxists from dressing up in black polos and Hawaiian shirts, burning shit down, and then blaming Trump supporters? Remember, their new marching orders are 'This is Trump's America.'
I do not live in America and can tell that the left are just looking for an excuse to make unfavourable headlines about anyone who is not BLM or a communist.
Leave it to the police! Even if they, the police, don't show up then it looks bad on the democrats for not upholding the law. Don't give them any reason to show descent or violence on TV for the next 60 days! Be strong pedes, the best is to win in November. Please boys, the world is watching.
Check out timcast IRL from last night. Tim talks about exactly what a lot of people here are thinking. Antifa will start shit, proud boys will retaliate and media will only report on what the proud boys did to make right wingers look bad and evil. Charlottesville 2.0.
If antifa is still emboldened enough to try and make a Charlottesville 2.0 in 23 days, then we have greater issues to worry about.
When should we do something? After they come into your neighborhood and burn down your house? At that point I won't care, you made your decision, at least I did something and my house will still be standing.
NO, The time is AFTER we win the most important election in the history of the free world. Is beating the piss out of a few Portland antifa fruitcakes really worth potentially losing support for Trump? One thing we have to pride ourselves on over the left is superior intelligence, we MUST use it.
I posted a month ago. I'm not a brigader but make up your own mind. Who would profit from a clash in Portland? Whom would the MSM portray as a NAZI DEATH SQUAD EXTERMINATING PEACEFUL PROTESTERS! Just because I don't post here all the time doesn't mean I'm a brigader.
Hey there. I am a lurker from KIA2.win. Looks like one the resident trolls from there got out of his enclosure and is bothering you. Hopefully a jannie will be along shortly to put him back in his enclosure where he belongs. I agree that PB going to Portland is very bad for trump's reelection chances. Better to retain momentum at this point than to lose it.
Your oldest post is 3 days old. You're the leftist who want violence to happen, you think people in this sub are dumb as to not check that? LOL. God willing, you will not succeed.
Why do you lie? My oldest post is SEVEN days ago, and I didn't say shit about wanting violence to happen. Once again, you did not answer my question and instead tried to change the subject to draw attention away from yourself. Don't reply to me again. You are fishy as fuck.
I am older than both of you and I agree with OP. This is a trap and media will use this for orange man bad. If you can’t see that then you are either naive or a leftist who wants this to happen.
You are being naive. Have you not seen what media did to Kyle? PBS is literally reporting Kyle killed unarmed protestors. You think these people will report the truth?
Plenty of old accounts agree too. Check out timcast IRL from last night. Tim talks about exactly what a lot of people here are thinking. Antifa will start shit, proud boys will retaliate and media will only report on what the proud boys did to make right wingers look bad and evil. Charlottesville 2.0.
Check out timcast IRL from last night. Tim talks about exactly what a lot of people here are thinking. Antifa will start shit, proud boys will retaliate and media will only report on what the proud boys did to make right wingers look bad and evil. Charlottesville 2.0.
OP is right, and Trump has said as much. He does not want his supporters fighting in the streets, leave it to law enforcement.
The law and order issue will sink Democrats in the Fall. If Trump supporters continue to go out and get into melees in the streets it will muddy the waters and prevent the Democrats from destroying themselves on this issue. And, it won't do anything to actually solve the problem.
Yep, the media is desperate for violent Trump supporters and all they got was Kyle Rittenhouse rightfully defending himself.
There is literally no upside to engaging the lunatics in Portland.
Media will blame any violence on the PB, doesn't matter who the aggressor is.
No police assistance, hostile mayor and DA.
You aren't going to flip Portland red, the people who live there got what they voted for.
This will turn onto NYC 2.0, where the Proud Boys got baited into a fight and only one side was arrested, charged and prosecuted.
It's a question of doing what feels good right now vs what will help lead to ultimate victory.
Fighting in the streets today will lower the chances of Trump winning reelection which will cause us to have a drastically worse future.
Plus, fighting in the streets won't solve the problem. To solve the problem we need to elect better leaders who will hold criminals accountable.
Reschedule for November 5th
You are obviously not capable of seeing the big picture so I'll stop trying to convince you.
100% agreed. It's exactly what they want. They created this situation. POTUS offered to help. They turned it down.
In November, we will win. We will continue our work cleaning up the swamp and putting in good judges.
What's even the goal of Proud Boys going to Portland? It serves no purpose to our goals and is only a risk and a liability if something goes wrong.
Public opinion is shifting our way. The public now sees that BLM and Antifa are violent. Polling shows this. Don't mess it up with some dumb Proud Boys march.
STAY OUT OF PORTLAND. The business owners are turning on the protesters. Let them figure it out for themselves and it let be an example of how Democrat run cities are failures.
At this point I think it is to hurt Trump.
I think it was planned because it sounded fun and people weren’t playing it out. I highly doubt there’s a sabotage element here
This had definitely been arranged by somome not on Trumps side
Yeap, far too convenient fro the left.
Oh bs
They like conflict. It's a pissing contest.
They should waite till after election
THAT IS EXACTLY CORRECT....
ANTIFA WANTS A WAR - THEY CAN HAVE IT - "AFTER TRUMP IS ELECTED"
I hope Trump reaches out personally and asks them to stand down. This is a major trap.
Trump has stated directly in public that no one should go engage the rioters intentionally...
let the police and law enforcement handle it...
and going to a Blue City - stacks the odds against ANY TRUMP SUPPORTER.
PLUS - You see what the MSM is doing to Kyle....
The Media is DESPERATE FOR ONE SINGLE STORY that shows a Trumper being violent.... Don't give it to them.
We can all reach out. Go to their website endantifa.com and email them, tell them not to go and to play it smart until after the election. That's when the gloves come off
Good advice, and there are already tons of comments on the announcement post saying the same -- please don't do this now, wait until after election.
That's NOT their website, it's a fake to harvest your info.
Are you sure about that? If you are, I appreciate the info
It was mentioned previously in the thread.
The person who mentioned that corrected himself and said he had mixed endantifa.com up with another site that was fake bro. I read the same thread
My account is not new. We've seen this set-up, before. Let's not be gullible. The riots exist where the Democratic mayors encourage them. They want another Charlottesville.
Don't be stupid.
Pay attention to what Trump said. Leave it to law enforcement.
THE MSM will just turn the REALITY of what happens into yet another FICTION STORY
that will AGAIN try to make TRUMP/TRUMPERS look bad.
VOTING TRUMP IS EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW....
PANTIES'FA and their RIOTS only scares more suburbanites to Drop Biden and support the Law and Order President.
When the opponent is digging themselves into a hole... don't stop them.
Could not agree more! This is BAIT!
The website quoted is fake. Per Gavin McGinnis. Its all part of the false flag democrats are setting up.
Do you have a source for this?
Second reply. looks like i had my facts crossed up. My apologies Pede.. There was a DIFFERENT site setup that was fake... Details on that one here.
Again my apologies for the mix up! I will not edit my posts for full transparency.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/exclusive-proud-boys-website-attacked-taken-offline-two-days-malicious-fake-website-created-gather-peoples-info/
No worries. Glad you cleared it up. I was just curious if this false flag was real, because I don't think PB going to Portland is a good idea. I actually wanted that to be a false flag.
https://share.par.pw/post/ab9eec3cdd8548c58486d828f1bbbd60
Thats not a source for what the OP was saying. Thats a false site gathering PB info to dox them. Im wondering where the info is that says the PB coming to Portland is fake.
endantifa.com is not the proudboys website and not where they release information. I'm trying to find the quote.
Interestingly, it was registered in 2019 and until this week has been nothing but a URL redirector to a change.org or whatever petition site to "label antifa a terrorist organization". Not something "Proud Boys" would do with a URL.
Agreed - Things like this are pure stupidity.
Like the Maga guy's murder (Jay I believe). It's inciting violence so they can use it against us.
I'm all for taking action, but we have to be strategic here.
Exactly, we will lose if we're not very, very strategic.
If they can spin an unprovoked execution into 'muh yt supremecy' then they will spin he ever living fuck out of anything the proudboys do. The proudboys could do CPR on a collapsed black person and the media would run the headline "Proudboys crush black man's ribs in violent mob confrontation".
This.
Yes patience is key. Listen to your president. He has a plan and it is working. The Wokeists are turning the entire country on themselves. If Proud Boys show up it will be massively used against Trump supporters in the media.
The day after elections day? Do whatever the damn hell you want. They will be rioting like never before after Trump wins so roll up with a van full of miniguns for all I care at that point but not now.
Patience now will win this propaganda battle... so we can all win the war.
I like the proud boys and think they have the right to protest peacefully wherever they want.
HOWEVER, you have to be fucking retarded to think the antifags aren't going to instigate them into fighting. Then that footage is going to be edited and blasted everywhere right before the election.
Stop playing checkers, play chess.
If the proud boys really want to be useful they should All volunteer as poll workers and serve as protection For conservative voters in liberal areas on the day of the election. Just my 2€
Trump needs to call them out, on Twitter, before anything happens. Just say something like 'I admire your spirit but please leave it to law enforcement. I do not condone violence of any kind'.
there must be a way to get this message to trumps PR team
Tell them on gavinmcinnes.win
Its already been discussed there. Same sentiment as here.
The problem is, now that it's announced, even if they now don't go to Portland, all Antifa has to do is dress like a Proud Boy, have them "attack" Antifa or anyone else, and then the media has all they need to smear them until the election. This won't help Trump or anyone else.
TIM POOL IS THAT YOU????????🙄
hahaha good one pede
1000% agree, the left will continually do things to make us angry to get us to lash out. The key is to make them keep looking like chimps in the street, the more they riot and destroy things the worse they look.
Nothing good can come of it.
If they want conflict with antifa they should at least wait until after the election.
It's a trap.
It's too late at this point. They've published the appearance. As Tim Pool was pointing out, at this point it doesn't matter if they show up or not at this point. Someone will dress up as a PB and get a photo op of doing something horrible.
I think as long as the Proud Boys fly their flags and are surrounded by police and then leave, it should be fine.
No use having pitched battles but if they are going to have them, stay close to each other, fight hard and then get the fuck out of Portland in a tight group.
Yes, and they will be forced to defend themselves. Guess which footage will be shown on air.
This is why they shouldn't go. If anything have a rally in a more conservative neighboring area with support of the sheriff. Portland is a honeypot.
Much as I enjoyed repeatedly watching Rufio knock that faggot out cold, I hope they have the smarts not to fight prior to the election.
Also, some OR troopers might enjoy arresting Poor Boys on Federal charges.
Check out timcast IRL from last night. Tim talks about exactly what a lot of people here are thinking. Antifa will start shit, proud boys will retaliate and media will only report on what the proud boys did to make right wingers look bad and evil. Charlottesville 2.0.
Not if they dont show up and it is exclusively nutcase Woke zealots on the streets as has been for the last three months.
Don’t feed the trolls! That’s what this is. Don’t interfere with these Hidin voters. Watch them implode while taking the losers in the MSM with them.
They hang out on the CHAN site. CHAN alert Proud Boys.
Unfortunately, the right isn’t a monolith in lockstep with orders coming from the top down that everybody follows like the left. Sometimes you get certain groups that want to do their own thing without contemplating the national repercussions or optics of their actions. Cracking commie skulls seems like the right thing to do but the country is already stressed with the violence and we need a de-escalation. Let the left destroy themselves and law & order run its course.
by this time it is pretty much whoever was capable of looking at things rationally has already done so and whoever has not done so yet, is incapable of changing or making up their minds.
No one should go to Portland. It’s a shit hole!
This is a terrible idea and does nothing but hurt Trump. I suggest everyone emails them on their website and asks them to be smart and wait until AFTER the election. We need to look to Trump for guidance and outsmart the commie scum, don't play into their hands. The dems tried for months to force Trump into invoking the insurrection act so they could scream fascist, but he instead out smarts them and deputizes state police. We MUST follow the lead of our commander and chief and play this smart until election day. 4D chess, not checkers
Antifa does what the MSM wants. You want 'Moms' and 'Dads'? Antifa puts on costumes. What is going to stop Portland Marxists from dressing up in black polos and Hawaiian shirts, burning shit down, and then blaming Trump supporters? Remember, their new marching orders are 'This is Trump's America.'
Lol no, go remove some commies proud boys.
This protest could cost trump the election... Why can't they reschedule for November 5th
I do not live in America and can tell that the left are just looking for an excuse to make unfavourable headlines about anyone who is not BLM or a communist.
You sound like Glen Beck.
Leave it to the police! Even if they, the police, don't show up then it looks bad on the democrats for not upholding the law. Don't give them any reason to show descent or violence on TV for the next 60 days! Be strong pedes, the best is to win in November. Please boys, the world is watching.
Contrary to popular belief we aren't the proud boys and we don't control them.....
People afraid to fight should enjoy the shade of those who are willing rather than try to be their agent.
You mistake fear with cunning. Strategy is paramount.
I'd say call their CIA handlers and tell them then.
Oh come on.
They're going back at the end of the month.
We're not wusses and the narrative will have changed by then anyways.
Check out timcast IRL from last night. Tim talks about exactly what a lot of people here are thinking. Antifa will start shit, proud boys will retaliate and media will only report on what the proud boys did to make right wingers look bad and evil. Charlottesville 2.0.
If antifa is still emboldened enough to try and make a Charlottesville 2.0 in 23 days, then we have greater issues to worry about.
When should we do something? After they come into your neighborhood and burn down your house? At that point I won't care, you made your decision, at least I did something and my house will still be standing.
PBs want blood and retribution for Jay Danielson. I can't blame them.
The police let it happen. The National Guard are neutered. What does anyone expect?
Yes, it is what antifa want. Yes, it's what the MSM wants so they can portray the PBs as evil "instigators"
The time for turning the other cheek is over. Fuck around and find out.
NO, The time is AFTER we win the most important election in the history of the free world. Is beating the piss out of a few Portland antifa fruitcakes really worth potentially losing support for Trump? One thing we have to pride ourselves on over the left is superior intelligence, we MUST use it.
Cool new account, I'm sure you're totally genuine and not a brigader from the left!
I posted a month ago. I'm not a brigader but make up your own mind. Who would profit from a clash in Portland? Whom would the MSM portray as a NAZI DEATH SQUAD EXTERMINATING PEACEFUL PROTESTERS! Just because I don't post here all the time doesn't mean I'm a brigader.
Hey there. I am a lurker from KIA2.win. Looks like one the resident trolls from there got out of his enclosure and is bothering you. Hopefully a jannie will be along shortly to put him back in his enclosure where he belongs. I agree that PB going to Portland is very bad for trump's reelection chances. Better to retain momentum at this point than to lose it.
Why does going to Portland automatically mean killing people in your mind? That's not normal, dude. You smell funky.
The Left wants to provoke violence so they can use the footage and claim that the Riots were Trumps fault all along! How hard is that to comprehend!
Your oldest post is 3 days old. You're the leftist who want violence to happen, you think people in this sub are dumb as to not check that? LOL. God willing, you will not succeed.
Why do you lie? My oldest post is SEVEN days ago, and I didn't say shit about wanting violence to happen. Once again, you did not answer my question and instead tried to change the subject to draw attention away from yourself. Don't reply to me again. You are fishy as fuck.
I am older than both of you and I agree with OP. This is a trap and media will use this for orange man bad. If you can’t see that then you are either naive or a leftist who wants this to happen.
If you're not a leftie, you're not very intelligent, either way, later!
You are being naive. Have you not seen what media did to Kyle? PBS is literally reporting Kyle killed unarmed protestors. You think these people will report the truth?
You start out with an ad hominem, I ignore everything else you followed it with. I don't care to hear from you.
I'm not a proud boy, so any advice you have for them, you can leave me out of it.
So that means you should give me advice meant for Proud Boys? That doesn't make any sense.
LOL okay. 3/10 bait. At least you got me to respond.
Plenty of old accounts agree too. Check out timcast IRL from last night. Tim talks about exactly what a lot of people here are thinking. Antifa will start shit, proud boys will retaliate and media will only report on what the proud boys did to make right wingers look bad and evil. Charlottesville 2.0.
Either join them or hide under your bed..
Check his posts people. They're a couple of hours old.
Found the glowjogger!
NO!
We need to give our undying support to The Proud Boys. You either with them or you with Antifa!
Yes sir, Agent Glowie!
🤣
Check out timcast IRL from last night. Tim talks about exactly what a lot of people here are thinking. Antifa will start shit, proud boys will retaliate and media will only report on what the proud boys did to make right wingers look bad and evil. Charlottesville 2.0.