I like it, but CS and its carriers are soluble in a lot of plastics and will soften them, pressure and temperature will accelerate the process. You're probably still going to need steel or aluminium components.
I'm personally unbothered by the thought of a terrorist getting his hand coated in CS-laden molten plastic, but that pull fuse/ignition combo is going to create a lot of heat/pressure very quickly, in a plastic container- anybody picking up this thing would likely suffer debilitating burns. Again, for me, volenti non fit injuria, but for the media, just you wait until some pretty trust fund girl gets her hands melted- you will clock up about 1500 milliHitlers on the CNN Scale of Justice.
For me, I'd suggest switching out the adhesive tip with an impact fuse- the impact of the tip triggers a simple circuit that switches on when pressure in the casing falls to atmospheric (primary payload discharged) or the munition is tilted away from the horizontal (solid state gyro, magnetic sensor, or tilt switch). This circuit operates a one-time valve (for example, melting a solder blob) that dumps an internal, additional payload via a carbon dioxide canister.
Adhesives are a good idea for some munitions, but there are countermeasures (tipping on a solvent, usually) that could leave undischarged CS grenades in the hands of the enemy. Best to have some sort of fail-deadly that will discharge the weapon anyway after a length of time.
I would use something like OC, I have known people who got PAVA sprayed and that stuff is the real deal- the British Army dosed me with what I think was CS to encourage my learning of gas mask fitting, and while unpleasant, it didn't seem to approach the all-consuming burning of PAVA. I'd couple it with a permanent skin dye- gentian violet or similar that will mark riot participants for a week.
I wanted to do the tilt fuse with a ball bearing but the issue with that is they will bounce and an impact fuse will not always be successful a lot of failure or pre-mature detonations etc...i thought of a digital accelerometer set on a timer but that over complicates things.
Well, they've been figuring out how to put time delays on impact fuses for decades and decades (the most interesting of which was a French WWI airplane bomb that mixed tetranitromethane after it departed the aircraft. The stuff is so unstable that it doesn't need a fuse.) Now when I read your OP version, the first thing I thought of was stealing the stick of the whackjob banging on the bus stop bench and using it to attach the grenade to a riot cop's shield.
... but CS and its carriers are soluble in a lot of plastics and will soften them
hehehehe. If you haven't already, there's an idea for the next mark, a panzerwurfmine if I remember correctly (tries a search... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerwurfmine ...that would be an underhanded delivery method. I mean that literally.)
That would stop chemical degradation of the casing. I'd use stiffer components generally, though- gas grenades are usually launched from a distance with a specialised gun as it avoids blowback/catching your own guys, and the range is such that the antifags can't usefully throw it back. There's a risk, of course, that you'll brain one of the bastards with the projectile, but you can stick a bit of padding on and not use the gun on a low trajectory. I saw one video recently where a guy went protesting/rioting in a third-world country and was shot direct-fire with a smoke cannister- it lodged in his skull after ...ahem... displacing his brain and he was lying there with a smoke jet shooting out of the hole.
I've been curious about the use of permanent dyes- while gentian violet is slightly toxic, there are others that effectively penetrate skin (but not building materials etc) and aren't considered dangerous. It would certainly reduce repeat offences and help keep the rioters out of sight for a while if they got painted bright blue.
dude you came up with a million dollar idea....think about paintballs with different perm ink in them that glows in the dark, different colors so police can mark dangerous people for later or the next night.
the dye idea is actually a good one my dude....never thought of that but we can turn them into smurfs, or better yet make them glow in the dark....actual glowies
I like it, but CS and its carriers are soluble in a lot of plastics and will soften them, pressure and temperature will accelerate the process. You're probably still going to need steel or aluminium components.
I'm personally unbothered by the thought of a terrorist getting his hand coated in CS-laden molten plastic, but that pull fuse/ignition combo is going to create a lot of heat/pressure very quickly, in a plastic container- anybody picking up this thing would likely suffer debilitating burns. Again, for me, volenti non fit injuria, but for the media, just you wait until some pretty trust fund girl gets her hands melted- you will clock up about 1500 milliHitlers on the CNN Scale of Justice.
For me, I'd suggest switching out the adhesive tip with an impact fuse- the impact of the tip triggers a simple circuit that switches on when pressure in the casing falls to atmospheric (primary payload discharged) or the munition is tilted away from the horizontal (solid state gyro, magnetic sensor, or tilt switch). This circuit operates a one-time valve (for example, melting a solder blob) that dumps an internal, additional payload via a carbon dioxide canister.
Adhesives are a good idea for some munitions, but there are countermeasures (tipping on a solvent, usually) that could leave undischarged CS grenades in the hands of the enemy. Best to have some sort of fail-deadly that will discharge the weapon anyway after a length of time.
I would use something like OC, I have known people who got PAVA sprayed and that stuff is the real deal- the British Army dosed me with what I think was CS to encourage my learning of gas mask fitting, and while unpleasant, it didn't seem to approach the all-consuming burning of PAVA. I'd couple it with a permanent skin dye- gentian violet or similar that will mark riot participants for a week.
a thin aluminum almost foil would do the trick..like the inside of a flashbang the cops use./
I wanted to do the tilt fuse with a ball bearing but the issue with that is they will bounce and an impact fuse will not always be successful a lot of failure or pre-mature detonations etc...i thought of a digital accelerometer set on a timer but that over complicates things.
Well, they've been figuring out how to put time delays on impact fuses for decades and decades (the most interesting of which was a French WWI airplane bomb that mixed tetranitromethane after it departed the aircraft. The stuff is so unstable that it doesn't need a fuse.) Now when I read your OP version, the first thing I thought of was stealing the stick of the whackjob banging on the bus stop bench and using it to attach the grenade to a riot cop's shield.
hehehehe. If you haven't already, there's an idea for the next mark, a panzerwurfmine if I remember correctly (tries a search... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerwurfmine ...that would be an underhanded delivery method. I mean that literally.)
That would stop chemical degradation of the casing. I'd use stiffer components generally, though- gas grenades are usually launched from a distance with a specialised gun as it avoids blowback/catching your own guys, and the range is such that the antifags can't usefully throw it back. There's a risk, of course, that you'll brain one of the bastards with the projectile, but you can stick a bit of padding on and not use the gun on a low trajectory. I saw one video recently where a guy went protesting/rioting in a third-world country and was shot direct-fire with a smoke cannister- it lodged in his skull after ...ahem... displacing his brain and he was lying there with a smoke jet shooting out of the hole.
I've been curious about the use of permanent dyes- while gentian violet is slightly toxic, there are others that effectively penetrate skin (but not building materials etc) and aren't considered dangerous. It would certainly reduce repeat offences and help keep the rioters out of sight for a while if they got painted bright blue.
dude you came up with a million dollar idea....think about paintballs with different perm ink in them that glows in the dark, different colors so police can mark dangerous people for later or the next night.
the dye idea is actually a good one my dude....never thought of that but we can turn them into smurfs, or better yet make them glow in the dark....actual glowies