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uvontheterrible 488 points ago +490 / -2

Is it possible for someone with no credibility to say someone else has lost all credibility?

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Iteachfuckingscience [S] 243 points ago +244 / -1

I love that NPR is telling their listeners the truth!

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Whoopies_tds 223 points ago +224 / -1

CDC has no credibility. From now on, you must only get your information from CNN and NPR

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Ronald_Dregan 175 points ago +176 / -1

NPR didn't like the revised numbers. These people are so predictable it's unreal.

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The_Litehaus_Abides 147 points ago +147 / -0

In the past 2 days, President Trump and his Admin. have gotten leftists to shit-talk mail-in voting, vaccines and now the CDC.

Hahahaha!

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Art-Vandelay41 78 points ago +79 / -1

Yet Ben Shapiro still doesn’t think Trump can play 4D chess

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ZacPetkanas 71 points ago +72 / -1

Ben is still bitter that after his white knighting, Michelle Fields didn't even give him an old fashioned.

Never Trump midget isn't to be trusted

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Bullet3250 22 points ago +22 / -0

Luckily, Michelle Fields just came out of her coma and is sipping clear soup at the hospital - full recovery from the 2016 'incident' looks good... she may even regain her eyesight.

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MAGA_MEXICAN_CHILI 15 points ago +15 / -0

I like how the Shaprio Neo-con shills downvote when we shit on their favorite mental midget who does not view the U.S as his country (psst, he admitted Israel is his country, even though he's born in fucking Los Angles).

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TrumpTrainJune152015 10 points ago +10 / -0

He is really short in person.

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PurestEvil 38 points ago +39 / -1

To be fair, it's hard to differentiate Trump's 4D maneuvering from the total meltdown and self-destruction of the Democrats in face of losing everything they took for granted.

But even Tim Pool realized long time ago that it is impossible to assume randomness for someone to stumble so often only to do a perfect landing every time.

Shapiro is simply not as smart as he thinks he is. He is a bit too "intellectual" (in the context of "stupid", too focused on abstraction and theory) and lacks wisdom (he has difficulties with perceiving reality and abandoning wrong views).

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SSFade 29 points ago +29 / -0

Shapiro doesn't lack the means of thought. Abstraction and theory are important to arriving to optimal conclusions. It's my personal opinion, but he suffers from what I call cognitive cowardice.

It's something we all struggle with at times. It's the active unwillingness to think to the next step because it could change your mind. There are many reasons why it could arise, but pride is largely the first.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 15 points ago +15 / -0

Poole >>>>> Shapiro

At least Poole never pretended to be something he wasn't.

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BigMikesBlackCock -11 points ago +6 / -17

Tim pool is a bald midget moron

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 17 points ago +17 / -0

That guy...holy....I listened to him almost daily from mid 2015 to mid 2016. He is such a fucking cuck. I kept waiting for him to give Trump credit. It was ALWAYS "Well Trump did this great policy that I really like, but his tweeting, I mean, he shouldn't be president." Just infuriatingly stupid.

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BigPharma 16 points ago +20 / -4

Ben Shapiro, the Isreal first Jew that only is useful when debating the mentally disabled that have no debate experience. Oy vey

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jta2010 5 points ago +5 / -0

Little Benjamin supports mandatory vaccinations. Never trust little men.

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Chopblock 21 points ago +21 / -0

It’s much bigger than just the 6% ‘Covid-Only Deaths’ figure! The numbers tell a story independent of any political hack’s spin!

“Taken all together, this is a complete, hard-to-fake set of data with a strong correlation to observable reality, reported by doctors contemporaneously at the time of death, that doesn’t rely on ‘interpretation’ or any single gatekeeper’s subjectivity, that shows that not only is death from Covid alone rare, but that Covid is unlikely to be the greatest single factor of most of the other deaths to which it contributed.

This is why they fear this report. It reveals what they’ve been hiding to keep letting them count ‘with-Covid’ deaths as ‘Covid’ deaths”.

Don’t get stymied by B.S. ‘fact checks’. Read the full explanation here:

https://thedonald.win/p/HEJCOHgY/heres-how-the-statistical-logic-/

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zabbers 15 points ago +16 / -1

We did it pedes! They're running in circles.

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Varangian 10 points ago +10 / -0

Then they’ll turn into butter, like Sambo’s tigers.

Betcha can’t even find that storybook anymore.

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Kek_Johnson 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm almost 50. Can confirm having a tattered old Sambo book as a kid. The one where he gets stuck on the tar baby.

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Amaroq64 10 points ago +11 / -1

I missed the part where he got them to flip flop on mail in voting and vaccines!

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The_Litehaus_Abides 15 points ago +15 / -0

It was during K-Mac's press beating yesterday. Propagandists were losing their damn minds saying President Trump was "rushing" a vaccine and accusing him of telling people to vote twice via mail and in person.

Which gave Kayleigh the perfect opening to denounce mail-in voting in general. It was so damn much fun to watch.

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Amaroq64 8 points ago +8 / -0

Hahaha! Jesus, I need to stop being surprised at the new lows they'll find to sink to.

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womp_squared 7 points ago +7 / -0

They are so retarded. How do they not see they are constantly getting played by both sides?

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MaxineWaters4Prez 11 points ago +11 / -0

They're only credible as long as they say what they want them to say. If the CDC stated tomorrow that you must wear a mask while in the shower, they'd be the voice of authority to the left.

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BeyondRepair 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are correct! CNN and NPR know better than anyone. If the doctors go against our narrative, then F the doctors those know nothings.

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QPATRIOT1776 42 points ago +43 / -1

I've been working all day and just checked TD.win, what's going on with the CDC and NPR?

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ACuriousWingnut 26 points ago +26 / -0

Why the FUCK was testing done on asymptomatic people in the first place?

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FireannDireach 19 points ago +20 / -1

Honk honk.

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PatrickSebast 5 points ago +6 / -1

It was done because we have a large amount of testing capacity and certain businesses and organizations (colleges being a big source) were doing an increasing number of tests (e.g. testing new employees or kids coming on campus from high risk areas) which in turn was slowing turn around time for people with symptoms.

The reasoning is solid but it means more "wasted" tests and even that universities would be building time sensitive contracts that got priority over random people.

It is debatable whether the CDC had the correct response but it was at least a recommendation made with a clear purpose. (Reduce test turnaround time)

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inquimouse 2 points ago +2 / -0

Looking for the infection equivalent of phlogiston.

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Rginap 2 points ago +2 / -0

Idiots are walking around perfectly healthy, thinking they’re carrying it because of “asymptomatic transmission”.

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QPATRIOT1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

Thank you pede : )

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MAUSGA 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's absurd that asymptomatic people were ever tested. Aside from being an enormous waste of resources, testing a ton of people who almost certainly don't have the disease makes your positive and negative predictive values drop like a rock i.e. you lose more and more confidence in the accuracy of any individual result.

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serengetidesert1973 3 points ago +3 / -0

sounds a little anti-science. Death penalty when?

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Bonami 3 points ago +3 / -0

Its more than just that, the CDC said that less than ten thousand people died from the virus (6 percent of total deaths) and that those people had been very frail and very old. All others had died with two or more morbidness and were in almost all cases of advanced age.

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MakeFloridaRed 25 points ago +25 / -0

Sorry looks like you were downvoted by a worthless reddit fan who is angry you were working all day.

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GopnikGod 22 points ago +22 / -0

REEEE WORK IS A MYTH! MONEY COMES FROM THE GOVERNMENT!

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ThePowerOfPrayer 12 points ago +12 / -0

You didn't build that! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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covid-6969 9 points ago +9 / -0

OMG almost spit my coffee out hearing this voice in my head HAHA.

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BartoshJr 9 points ago +9 / -0

Hey, there's a first time for everything.

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bothloveocean 3 points ago +3 / -0

Or send them money. FFS

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Furaffinitydotnet 54 points ago +54 / -0

They should be banned from social media for "spreading coronavirus misinformation"

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iamherefortheluls 23 points ago +23 / -0

"social media" should get their executives and board of directors banned from US commerce for aiding terrorists.

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siliconia 53 points ago +53 / -0

That's what the media is now. They're using the past credibility of the media structures they infiltrated to give their voice authority. The media structure use to pretend like it had ethics codes, but that's obviously not true. However, that pretense has been dropped. Their voice has no authority or credibility, however, your every day person not paying attention may be under the assumption that it does.

This is how the communist do everything, they infiltrate and destroy and take over power positions to use the structures past to give them credence.

What this has done is shown the weakness of those systems, and how they were always corrupt or poorly built out. All systems should now be built on the idea that all actors in said systems are bad faith actors.

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Pepe_Vult 22 points ago +22 / -0

See also, Boy Scouts. Any conservative cause. NRA. Etc etc.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 10 points ago +10 / -0

They have successfully demoralized their useful idiots, so the idiots eagerly consume anything that confirms their existing programming, then dutifully regurgitate it to each other on social media. Simply confirming their programming gives them complete credibility with the useful idiots.

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Chopblock 9 points ago +9 / -0

From Cheesemaker to Demoralized Signal-Zombie step-by-step:

  • Tech-mediated social media demoralization

  • Institutionalism, indoctrination, and reality-detachment

  • Mass media Orwellian ‘two-minutes hate’ inundation

  • Isolation through censorship, and gaslighting

  • Dehumanization propaganda and narcissistic reinforcement

  • Antisocial Behavior modeling and linguistic detachment

  • Sloganeering, dichotomies, and group-enforced thought control

  • Radicalization and political power structure subjugation

  • Emotional contagion and hysteria induction

  • Situational Escalation and individualized triggering

  • Weapons delivery and material support

  • Removal of legal and cultural behavior-freezing processes

  • Disavowal, abandonment, or elimination

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CmonPeopleGetReal 2 points ago +2 / -0

Its called the 'Appeal to Authority' logical fallacy.

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Bonami 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes like Greenpeace, ACLU, tons more

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Corse46 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah actually I was going to say, I might agree with NPR on this one. But can we also add Fauci’s NIH, and the WHO, as having no credibility?

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trump212121 18 points ago +18 / -0

Winning! KAG

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Bbasher 80 points ago +80 / -0

CDC crying in the corner: We were just doing our job. 😢

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Ronald_Dregan 47 points ago +48 / -1

NPR:Science is racist. Reeee!

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covid-6969 14 points ago +14 / -0

When you actually start to look at scientific outcomes related to race, LGBTQ++, violence, then you may think science is racist.

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AmpleDesserts 13 points ago +14 / -1

See that's the thing that confuses me.

From my understanding, the CDC is completely in the pockets of Big Pharma. So why they'd sort of switch to a "neutral" stance now of all times especially after Trump put a huge middle finger with the drug costs is all the more confusing for me.

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thelastlast 16 points ago +16 / -0

because they know they're in trouble. the ruse isn't working. rats are fleeing.

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Bonami 3 points ago +3 / -0

Because Trump took control of their data and started an audit, they jumped to "correct' their data before he pushed them off a cliff

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Amaroq64 27 points ago +28 / -1

Weren't the CDC defining poverty and lack of diversity and shit like that as diseases so they could use their funding to fight for left wing causes instead of fight against real diseases?

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Amaroq64 17 points ago +17 / -0

Reminds me of how literally every other government institution (including the public schools) wastes as much money as humanly possible, because if they fail to waste some of it, their budget will get cut.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 6 points ago +6 / -0

I remember successfully arguing to keep my maintenance budget while I was a restaurant manager by asking why I was being punished for performing preventative maintenance and saving the company thousands of dollars in repair costs.

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aaafirefly123 8 points ago +8 / -0

That kind of model is cancer, you shouldn’t be actively punished for doing a more efficient job.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 3 points ago +3 / -0

I knew when I was getting screwed and knew I was supposed to stand up for myself.

Wasn't my father who taught me those lessons. Instead, I wrestled and played basketball in middle school and played football in high school. Many of the kids on our football team would round the corners when running laps if the coaches weren't looking. I never cheated myself and my teammates out of conditioning, so I hit all four corners on every lap.

As far as cutting my budget, it meant I'd have to come up with over $1000 extra in sales over target if my walk-in freezer or refrigerator went down and required a major repair. I watched the maintenance guy come in and paid for preventative maintenance and inspection of my equipment the first month I took the job. I changed every filter he changed every month and those 12 filters for each month made me so much bonus money. Also ensured the drink cooler stayed humming like it was brand new, so customers were more likely to actually buy the sodas.

I also used a plastic brush on the fans in the bathrooms once a month. They stayed like brand new and every thing was cleaned every day. When I took over a store, the first thing I did was clean everything myself on my first day. Got everything to code and threw out any product. The next day, I told people everything I found that was wrong, and set my standards on day 2.

I've made millions of dollars for other people in my 20s working as a restaurant general manager. I did it for 10 years or so and then switched to construction until the industry crashed (thanks Bush Jr. and Obama), to 3 part time jobs (economy was dead and those were 3 18 hr a week jobs just so I didn't have to claim unemployment - too proud) to a sales job to a career in the tech industry. Things have been going much better since 2017, that I can tell you.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 12 points ago +12 / -0

WTF? Fauci is literally Hitler now!

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TrumpyMadeYouGrumpy 9 points ago +9 / -0

Dems: "stop denying science, you uneducated Drumpfters!!!!"

CDC: "COVID not bad"

Dems: "REEEEE DON'T BELIEVE SCIENCE".

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Chelsea_hubbell 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yes, I’m confused. I thought it was “follow the science”

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Thehumancentipede 178 points ago +179 / -1

Listen to scientists! Wait, only listen to scientists we like!

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realJohnBarron 69 points ago +69 / -0

More like have blind faith in science and allow the scientific clergy to interpret the sacred texts

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Wyrmshadow 30 points ago +30 / -0

Only a tech priest is allowed to commune with the Machine Spirit

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Amaroq64 4 points ago +4 / -0

Where's the Rush/Ayreon album for this?

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LesboPregnancyScare 9 points ago +9 / -0

MSM: You must respect the sacred texts and our interpretation of them.

Normie: Can I read the sacred texts?

MSM: "NO! It is illegal."

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ChrisSuperDude 43 points ago +43 / -0

That's how they operate

"Listen to black voices, cause black lives matter. Except Hershel Walker, Ben Carson, or Kayne West"

"Listen to the LGBTQPEIEIO619 community, they are the most oppressed group in America. Except Tammy Bruce, Peter Theil, or Richard Grenell"

"Listen to women, women are oppressed by the wage gap. Except for the Trump girls, Kristi Noem, Kimberly Guilfoyle, or Laura Loomer"

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MaxineWaters4Prez 13 points ago +13 / -0

Believe all women, except Tara Reade who is a liar.

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CovfefeAnon 20 points ago +20 / -0

Appeal to Authority is one of the Left's main go-tos.

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Enthymeme 6 points ago +6 / -0

The others are Argument ad Hominem and Straw Man fallacies. When we can spear you, we are going to schmear you.

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CovfefeAnon 7 points ago +7 / -0

They make use of them because they lost the argument along with logical consistency.

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zabbers 11 points ago +11 / -0

This is how it's always been. "Consensus" is a lie.

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FuckRioters 16 points ago +16 / -0

"99.9% of scientists agree that..."

"These scientists over here don't agree"

"They don't count"

"Why"

"Because"

"Ok, I don't understand your reasoning, but why don't you hand over that list of so-called scientists on your side."

"Hey, you're not supposed to see that!"

"Hmmm... lets see.... this one is a student, this one is an assistant professor, this one has "social justice warrior" on their LinkedIn, here's another student..."

I'm not even kidding. Any time you see one of those "1000 xyz agree" claims, go look up the people who signed it. Just take a random sampling, and they're nearly all basically what I described.

It's almost like firing an AR15 into a BLM riot, you're pretty much guaranteed to hit nothing but pedophiles, rapists, and burglars.

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Chopblock 6 points ago +6 / -0

Real science doesn’t epistemologically depend on ‘authority’. It DOESN’T MATTER how many people agree, it ONLY matters what you can prove, demonstrate, and reason.

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thelastlast 4 points ago +4 / -0

haha, this comment made me laugh.

there should be some sort of abbreviation for that.

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Brucesky420 9 points ago +9 / -0

Exactly. Every time we called them on their shit, we were anti-science. Facebook will ban you for sharing something a doctor said. Only Liberal Approved Doctors™ allowed.

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Gmama2 95 points ago +95 / -0

Wait they must not believe in science. It is settled science.

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Jimmy_Russler 19 points ago +19 / -0

BREAKING NEWS: SCIENCE IS NOW RACIST

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billbuckner 2 points ago +2 / -0

Even the feminist don't buy a person with a dick dressed as a woman. They like their woman with ,a you know ..a vagina.

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SkeletorsTeeth 75 points ago +76 / -1

Is it because they realized the cdc said masks dont work? Science deniers!

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latinolizards4trump 60 points ago +61 / -1

No, it's because of the new report that says Covid deaths are actually less than 10,000.

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HeIsVigo 8 points ago +8 / -0

My in laws in a couple European countries say that's how it is. Have to show a whole bunch of symptoms to be tested even if you were in contact with a positive case. Granted there's no election over there that hinges on Covid hysteria.

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Red_Turtle 14 points ago +14 / -0

The CDC keeps flopping on that one. Are they finally back on "masks don't work" or are we still on "they do work, but don't stalk people who won't wear them"?

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IHEARTGOODCOMMUNISTS 75 points ago +75 / -0

NPR is the absolute worst organization in the MSM/liberal media. It is an absolutely despicable propaganda organ for the left. It sickens me that I help pay for it.

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Varukers 22 points ago +22 / -0

FaIr aNd BaLaNcED pLz TRUst Us doNaTe neOw

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auroch 12 points ago +12 / -0

It's like being talked down to by a beggar.

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ihaveotherthingstodo 3 points ago +3 / -0

<3

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zabbers 17 points ago +17 / -0

Not only should they not get money, but no media corporation should be able to have "National", "Public", or "America" in their name. It just confuses low-information normies.

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totheendoftheline 5 points ago +5 / -0

My ex used to swear by NPR, said I should listen to it more and that it's the most unbiased news source out there. For that and many other reasons, he's my ex.

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zabbers 3 points ago +3 / -0

I used to listen on the way to work, knowing it was biased. Most of the time I didn't care about the news stories anyway, and Engines of Ingenuity was interesting. I stopped when their TDS starting going off the charts. (or maybe I just finally got sick of it)

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knightofday 9 points ago +9 / -0

They’re the worst because their ridiculous fundraising drives begging for money every other week it seems. “PLEASE PLEASE keep giving us money to further the destruction of you and your children’s lives!”

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nc777 55 points ago +55 / -0

Because CDC is reporting that COVID was overrated?
They will believe the science, until they don't like the science.

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 34 points ago +35 / -1

CDC is still to blame. They don't get off the hook for all the fucking errors.

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TentElephant 17 points ago +17 / -0

The CDC and FDA prevented private labs from testing January, when contact tracing was still an effective strategy to avoid Xi's disease entirely.

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MaxineWaters4Prez 8 points ago +8 / -0

Errors are unintentional.

What they did was criminal.

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 9 points ago +9 / -0

Everyone knows the hairdresser set them up.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 11 points ago +11 / -0

Look, they want their masks, lockdowns, quarantine, social distancing, and pandemic fear porn and they aren't going to let the likes of the CDC or that Nazi Fauci take it all away from them.

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MrAlwaysRight 46 points ago +46 / -0

NPR, and the left, is mad that the US is starting to show that the numbers are high because it counts anyone who die, or may have died, while having Covid 19.

The vast majority of the world counts only known Covid 19 cases WITH death being the only cause. Now some go a bit further and add Covid 19 as the "main cause".

None do what the US does. That adds up even non covid 19 positive people.

So when I ask people, how should they compare the US to the rest of the world, they say the same standard. When I point out this factual difference they get mad.

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FreeSince76 16 points ago +16 / -0

Then they tell you you're mis informed. While they have no idea the difference between the tests, standards for counting cases, and no one can seem to answer me how none of the 3rd world countries aren't being ravaged by this.

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MrAlwaysRight 16 points ago +16 / -0

They also say "it's common knowledge". Then, since it's so easy, you ask them for sources. They have none. So they ask me for some. So I provide them. Then they don't do shit with it and get mad.

If many leftist had a choice between the truth and eating a shit pie, they would eat the shit pie. They're a cult.

That's why people wake up and don't vote leftist again. Yet the opposite almost never happens. Not in America today.

I still try. I got through to some people. Even ones who are still brainwashed are surprised I can predict the future.

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ailurus 4 points ago +4 / -0

I say we build a bridge out of u/MrAlwaysRight !

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billbuckner 6 points ago +6 / -0

Exactly..piss poor sanitation. Whenever I brought up India as a perfect example of this to my normie friends. All I would get is blank stairs. Throw in the fact they take HQC likes its candy for malaria..More blank stares and mumbling.

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ParticleCannon 4 points ago +4 / -0

Or why China, the supposed epicenter, was back at 100% pollution emissions (and thus industrial output) in April

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MaxineWaters4Prez 11 points ago +11 / -0

Don't forget counting every positive result from the 50% reliable test as a new case, never once looking to see if someone was tested multiple times.

Then they get into contact tracing and assume all the people around them are positive by association.

It's been fake since day 1, always overcounting and double counting. Never once questioning what actually killed someone. Using "presumption" as a diagnosis. Even people who were tested but not even sick, that's a case.

It always erred on the side of ramming the numbers upward.

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fluffmiceter 7 points ago +7 / -0

Wait, can you get a source on the claim that other countries only publish COVID deaths with no comorbidities? That is absolutely huge, if true.

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ADAM_SCHITT 3 points ago +3 / -0

Do you have a source saying other countries use different standards for the death counts?

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MrAlwaysRight 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's been over time. Let me see if I can find something quickly.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1272426/germany-coronavirus-deaths-how-does-Germany-count-coronavirus-deaths

https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-04-18/How-do-different-countries-calculate-their-COVID-19-death-rates--PM3ur6PEtO/index.html

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/latest-on-coronavirus-outbreak/worldwide-covid-19-testing-ratio-per-country-million/1800124

There are also issues with even testing. Some places in the US were counting positive tests more than once on the same people. Some were not even counting false tests. This inflates Covid 19 numbers and reduces the number of actual tests.

The US is one of the highest in the world per capita in regards to testing. Some tests also give false positives, one in Europe gave 50 percent false positive.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-lowers-coronavirus-death-count

States have amended numbers.

Now compared to countries like Germany where it's all really done by the central government. This causes 15-20 percent changes, like in cases above, of false numbers.

When all is said and done the US is doing much better than people point out. Although counting actual results are an issues.

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zabbers 2 points ago +2 / -0

The vast majority of the world counts only known Covid 19 cases WITH death being the only cause.

Is this true? I knew different countries were counting things in vastly different ways, so the "daily death count" was meaningless - but if most other countries aren't mixing comorbidities like the US then we should absolutely be demanding consistent standards.

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MrAlwaysRight 3 points ago +3 / -0

I posted another comment with sources.

It is true.

https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-04-18/How-do-different-countries-calculate-their-COVID-19-death-rates--PM3ur6PEtO/index.html

The only country I have found that comes close is Germany:

Germany's case numbers include those who died "of" COVID-19, and those who died "with" the disease, in accordance with the Infection Protection Act. Or as RKI head Lothar Wieler puts it, "a corona death is someone who was proven to have a coronavirus infection." Which is not the same as actually dying from it. Making Germany's relatively low figures all the more impressive.

Now the US is still different than this, and I will list how:

  1. Germany does not count patients who died with covid, but had no related injuries. Like a car crash. The US does.

  2. Germany has it's information reported directly to the government in public hospitals. The US has private and public hospitals (with no oversight) report it to local, then county, then state, then federal.

If you own a private hospital and you're struggling to get patients due to Covid. There is no oversight and no double checking. Furthermore you get extra money if you have Covid 19 case. There is incentive to report excess numbers.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-lowers-coronavirus-death-count

Also there are big mistakes. BTW the US has been the only country that has reported such a high number of excess covid 19 errors.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/we-could-be-vastly-overestimating-the-death-rate-for-covid-19-heres-why/

Under reporting of covid 19 early on, and during, means the mortality rate is most likely much lower than even current estimates.

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/06/if-covid-19-cases-are-going-up-why-is-the-death-rate-going-down/

Death Rates are down in America overall. In fact diseases old and unhealthy people die of are way down. Hmm..

https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2020-05-11/why-are-hospitals-seeing-fewer-heart-attacks-during-covid-19

Here is a decent article on Covid 19:

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200901/what-changing-death-rates-tell-us-about-covid

Is Covid 19 worst than the average flu? For many people, usually elderly or very ill yes. Now what we should have done is lock those people down, and any who are sick. Then a stimulus just for them. Which would be much much much cheaper.

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zabbers 3 points ago +3 / -0

Wow thanks! Saving that.

Now what we should have done is lock those people down, and any who are sick. Then a stimulus just for them. Which would be much much much cheaper.

That is so obvious that I along with many others have been saying it for months, so I'm not sure why the politicians wouldn't consider the idea. It's appearing that one big reason they pushed for lockdowns was CHYNA.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/confirmed-china-launched-massive-social-media-campaign-march-get-countries-adopt-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns-destroy-economies/

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Shakakka99 24 points ago +24 / -0

Annnnnnd ... the serpent eats its tail.

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CovfefeAnon 9 points ago +9 / -0

Happens when they get too overheated, so expect to see more in the next 2 months.

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JuicyfearsMAGA 18 points ago +18 / -0

I mean whatever makes orange man bad. I don't think they were supposed to print the 6% of covid deaths were from covid alone..

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DrWeeGee 18 points ago +18 / -0

THE CORONA VIRUS IS RAAAAAAAAACIST

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 6 points ago +6 / -0

They have been saying that from the beginning. The WuFlu disproportionately affects POC, just like Climate Change, both of which are apparently literally Hitler according to Democrats.

🤡 🌎

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ShyGuyLink 16 points ago +16 / -0

I can't enjoy such spice without the corresponding sauce. C'mon man

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SurrenderFreeman 14 points ago +16 / -2

Op is a fag, no source.

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TrumpsGlassOfWater 9 points ago +9 / -0

I think it's this one... https://archive.is/r7EGs

Went over to reddit/politics to find it... I figured if it's anti-Trump, those fags would be talking about it.

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Keiichi81 12 points ago +12 / -0

"Drumpf doesn't listen to the experts and here's why that's dangerous!"

"These experts are no longer credible now that they've said something we don't agree with!"

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TrumpsGlassOfWater 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yep I heard a reporter ask that Trump was "pressuring to rush out a vaccine for the election" multiple times in the press briefings lately.

They're going to drop the 'for the election' part after the election and just stick with the "rushed out vaccine"

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ParticleCannon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Actually I just got a promoted article (thanks Android) saying Russia's vaccine "looks promising" and shows "no negative side effects" (CNBC).

So I guess we found Hunter Biden.

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sustainable_saltmine 10 points ago +10 / -0

CDC: "We don't need masks, the virus only actually killed 6%"
NPR: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE SCIENCE WAS SETTLED! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! WE NEED TO BE IN MASKS FOREVER AND GET A VACCINE AND STILL BE IN MASKS FOREVER"

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zabbers 3 points ago +3 / -0

STILL BE IN MASKS FOREVER

Well until November 3rd at least.

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IncredibleMrE1 9 points ago +9 / -0

ONLY BELIEVE SCIENCE IF IT AGREES WITH US, BIGOT!!!

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GEOTUSMAGA 9 points ago +9 / -0

NYT did the same thing the other day.

FAKE NEWS

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BigIslandFrog 8 points ago +8 / -0

NPR: Trust the EXPERTS!

Wait, the CDC doesn't agree with me?

NPR: IGNORE the experts!

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td_didnt_kill_itself 8 points ago +8 / -0

Can someone post the source? I can't find anything on google or duckduckgo, and going to NPRs front page feels like the web equivalent of walking into an upturned port-o-john.

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HiddenDekuScrub 8 points ago +9 / -1

Popcorn isn't good enough anymore. I made cookies. 🍪

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bobobob 7 points ago +7 / -0

My lefty friend said the same thing "sad that the cdc was corrupted by the evil orange man and we can no longer trust it".

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remember1776 7 points ago +7 / -0

"The CDC isn't fully kowtowing to our propaganda, NOW they're not credible." 🤡🌎

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Centipede 6 points ago +6 / -0

Will they be banned from twitter?

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bayway_liquors 3 points ago +3 / -0

genius

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TrumpsGlassOfWater 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think this is the source????... https://archive.is/r7EGs

Went over to reddit/politics to find it... I figured if it's anti-Trump, those fags would be talking about it.

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CaptainChrisPBacon 5 points ago +6 / -1

Be ashame if you provided a link.FYI I did search and found no link to that information

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TrumpsGlassOfWater 2 points ago +3 / -1

I think it's this one... https://archive.is/r7EGs

Went over to reddit/politics to find it... I figured if it's anti-Trump, those fags would be talking about it.

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PedeInADeepBlueSea 5 points ago +5 / -0

Wait, what did the CDC say to trigger NPR? I'm really hopeful it is something good. It must be if NPR stopped worshipping the CDC.

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Got_Hot_Snakes 11 points ago +11 / -0

CDC has said in the past masks don’t work, they’re now saying the china virus is no big deal and the death total is wayyyyyyy off, thousands less have died than what has previously been reported

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Zrob 2 points ago +2 / -0

Source? Want this as ammo

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Shitposter69 1 point ago +1 / -0

But muh REEEE?

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latinolizards4trump 9 points ago +9 / -0

That actual Covid deaths are less than 10,000.

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PedeInADeepBlueSea 6 points ago +6 / -0

Is that the 6% statistic released a few days ago, or something new? I can't find anything newer.

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zabbers 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is, but it's a little more complicated than that. CDC still tried to soften the message. The other 94% may have died of COVID-19, or maybe they didn't. I guess it depends on what the definition of is... is. Anyway the left are just attacking anything that hurts their narrative.

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latinolizards4trump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes the one from a few days ago

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fluffmiceter 1 point ago +1 / -0

I believe it is the 6% statistic but I can’t be certain. A little behind the loop on this also...

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Jimmy_Russler 5 points ago +5 / -0

NOOOOOOO NOT MY FEAR PORN!

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BaronFalcon 5 points ago +5 / -0

DEAR MR PRESIDENT, DEFUND NPR THEY ARE COMMIE TRASH.

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Choosetheform 4 points ago +4 / -0

Waaa! You broke the narrative!

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DonttrustChina 4 points ago +4 / -0

Trust the experts!

Until they contradict the narrative!

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rabbitholed 2 points ago +2 / -0

the narrative is all

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foobarbaz 4 points ago +4 / -0

source?????

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foobarbaz 4 points ago +4 / -0

found the salsa near as I can tell:

Public Health Authorities Face Credibility Crisis https://www.npr.org/transcripts/907157338

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SJWsHateUs 4 points ago +4 / -0

Listen to the scientists guh ——->Omg the scientists are in Drumpf’s pocket.

These people want to run shit. No thanks!

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NOTWOKE 4 points ago +4 / -0

But science!!!!

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TheMutualist 4 points ago +4 / -0

I've had countless conversations with Democrats where they cite Fauci... except when Fauci said voting in person is perfectly safe, he's suddenly a Trump henchman.

All I expect from people is some consistency.

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Pleepleus 4 points ago +4 / -0

And just like that public funding was cut to NPR. Please..

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Butthurt 4 points ago +4 / -0

They’re scientists. God.. these people need this scam in their lives for some reason

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The_Peter 4 points ago +4 / -0

Kind of like when NPR became pro-war as soon as Trump started pulling troops out of Syria.

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tonightm16 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yet the sheep will just keep on trucking.

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Pepe_Vult 3 points ago +3 / -0

State funded media hates leader of state so much they defame state funded research.

How many fucking billions of dollars do these leeches steal from us??

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lifeisahologram 3 points ago +3 / -0

CDC: "We are investigating a new disease, take these precautions!"

Liberal Media: "SEE THEY SAID SHUT IT ALL DOWN ALL OF IT! THE CDC IS GOD! THEY KNOW EVERYTHING AND ARE OMNIPOTENT AND FLAWLESS! HOW DARE YOU BE SKEPTICAL OF THEM!!!"

CDC: "After thorough analysis, we can now safely say this is the true impact of the disease and have these new recommendations..."

Liberal Media: "OMG THE CDC IS NOW LITERALLY HITLER! BURN THEM DOWN TO THE GROUND!"

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Thistriggersthelibs 3 points ago +3 / -0

Since when has NPR had any credibility?

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Rxking 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why is NPR slapping science in the face?!

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rabbitholed 3 points ago +3 / -0

npr = national propaganda radio