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posted ago by Despitetospite ago by Despitetospite +14 / -0

I Kinda agree with anyone pushing for a vaccine for this, but it proves something Trump would be at fault no matter what he had done, There were some people who said Trump was pushing masks too hard in March (when they wanted to blanket shutdown and ban outside travel), and after a random day in May, they switched up and said "inside is bad, go outside, masks are mandated, Trump is wrong")

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 2 points ago +2 / -0

He isn't even pushing it.

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Despitetospite [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

They think he is rushing a bad vaccine and it will be deadly. (honestly for this, rushing is okay, it will probably be like the drugs like HCQ, that keep it a cold for 100% instead of 99% infected) Democrat governors claim they won't open until a vaccine, they should be lucky he is doing this. Trump appeases so much, yet hes still a breath of fresh air, and Democrats claim he is a dictator, that is how rarely people took action against the Democrat establishment.

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DNC_Ballot_QATeam 1 point ago +1 / -0

They also are trying to claim he pushed the FDA to cut corners. Any shit lib promoting this "Trump vaccine" is just pushing the narrative.

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Flahusky 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump is totally pushing breathing too hard. He is totally 100% in the tank for breathing. Trump says it would probably be best to breathe through your nose, but through your mouth is ok too. He prefers oxygen when breathing, however, for some people, inhaling water is good too.

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Despitetospite [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

"we cant trust the FDA, Fauci, or CDC because they have agreed with Trump before" TDS> "settled" science

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ShrikeDeCil 1 point ago +1 / -0

Half the 'anti vaccine" discussion is targeting the specifics - not the in general "Would you take a perfect vaccine for this."

Epigenetics, "fast-tracking", the apparent "not that useful" state of our antibodies ... apparently because virus flexes too fast... This isn't a vaccine like Cow Pox.

It means getting a "Perfect" vaccine is wildly unlikely, and we'll never have one with full "long-term testing". Not just "well, you can wait a couple of years." No, it will be precisely like the current Flu Vaccine - you have to buy "This Year's Model" ... every year.

And the old model never completes the crash testing. Ever. Because "Well, we don't even make that model anymore. What does it matter what the effects on fertility, cancer, etc are - damage done!"

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Despitetospite [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Honestly (disregarding politics), this seems like a single modified cold strain, that only effects 1% of people not like a cold. IIRC, you get immune from single flu cold strains, but they mutate fast. It seems this needs herd immunity, but an external way to prevent that 1% (which hcq and the other autoimmune drugs seem to)

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ShrikeDeCil 1 point ago +1 / -0

The issue is that the medical jargon to describe it clearly is near-impenetrable - and there's (seemingly intentional) swapping the subject of discussion midstream.

On the one hand, "There's only like three major Flu Strains". On the other, you can't get "immunity to the Flu" even if you have Flu A ... because really (as you say) the names move away from you. "Flu A 2019" is different from "Flu A 2020".

The regular Flu Vaccine targets "The strains we think are relevant this cycle". They typically manage two with basic-to-moderate success.

But. You can't "Just take the vaccine for the other one next year."

And finding out that the long-term testing is skipped for "Fast Vaccines" is boggling.