Unless it has been granted NO ONE can come to Christ.
For someone following the rules of logic, that would seem to be the case. Assuming God is bound by logic is pure folly, and where too many otherwise "smart" people go astray.
"She is hidden from the eyes of every living thing;even from the birds of the air she is concealed." Job 28 tells us that wisdom comes from one place only. It isn't the words in a book. The Sadducees and Pharisees had every bit of earthly and scriptural knowledge that John the Baptist did. They had none of his wisdom though.
Listen to how silly your comment on free will "reconciles" with reality.
Unless it has been granted NO ONE can meet President Trump.
(Think of the Secret Service protecting him).
Does this mean that people don't have the free will to choose to meet with Trump or not meet with him? Anyone can choose to ask God for faith. Will God grant them faith? Jesus said the following on prayers and requests in Luke 11
Luke 11: 5-8
And he said to them, “Suppose one of you has a friend to whom he goes at midnight and says, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves of bread, for a friend of mine has arrived at my house from a journey and I have nothing to offer him,’
and he says in reply from within, ‘Do not bother me; the door has already been locked and my children and I are already in bed. I cannot get up to give you anything.’ I tell you, if he does not get up to give him the loaves because of their friendship, he will get up to give him whatever he needs because of his persistence.
Luke 11: 9-13
“And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
What father among you would hand his son a snake when he asks for a fish? 2
Or hand him a scorpion when he asks for an egg? If you then, who are wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father in heaven give the holy Spirit to those who ask him?”
I think he's conflating fundamentalist church goers with all Trump supporters. That's a mistake as Trump has a really diverse base of supporters, heck I would say a good chunk aren't even classical "conservatives".
I think there is a hell of a lot more diversity of thought when when it comes to Trump supporters as opposed to the left, ESPECIALLY after the Reddit purge. I think people even on here are getting used to a huge influx of moderates who support Trump (I'm one).
I don't agree with the anti mask stance, I don't play down covid as much as others do, but I've genuinely never had a conversation on here turn into anything more than a "Well I respect your opinion but I disagree".
The way some of the Churches are these days, any church goer could easily be a leftist. Jeremiah Wright is one example. Also, not that you asserted it, but many Trump supporters aren't Christians...like me, for example. Since I don't see Christianity as a threat to the West, I don't have strong feelings about it. Islam, however isn't even compatible with Islam, much less the West. So I see the ideology as a threat to Western culture and peace.
Except Trump supporters and church goers are not the same thing some are both, many are not
OP is a troll. Please ignore him.
Wish I could downvote him.
Edit: This is Divide and Conquer tactics. Ignore.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in /r/atheism.
Right, but what is your fundamental argument?
I claim to be your fundamental antithesis.
He believes the bible teaches that God made us without free will. I wouldn't waste your time.
For someone following the rules of logic, that would seem to be the case. Assuming God is bound by logic is pure folly, and where too many otherwise "smart" people go astray.
"She is hidden from the eyes of every living thing;even from the birds of the air she is concealed." Job 28 tells us that wisdom comes from one place only. It isn't the words in a book. The Sadducees and Pharisees had every bit of earthly and scriptural knowledge that John the Baptist did. They had none of his wisdom though.
Listen to how silly your comment on free will "reconciles" with reality.
Does this mean that people don't have the free will to choose to meet with Trump or not meet with him? Anyone can choose to ask God for faith. Will God grant them faith? Jesus said the following on prayers and requests in Luke 11
Luke 11: 5-8
And he said to them, “Suppose one of you has a friend to whom he goes at midnight and says, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves of bread, for a friend of mine has arrived at my house from a journey and I have nothing to offer him,’ and he says in reply from within, ‘Do not bother me; the door has already been locked and my children and I are already in bed. I cannot get up to give you anything.’ I tell you, if he does not get up to give him the loaves because of their friendship, he will get up to give him whatever he needs because of his persistence.
Luke 11: 9-13
“And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
What father among you would hand his son a snake when he asks for a fish? 2 Or hand him a scorpion when he asks for an egg? If you then, who are wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father in heaven give the holy Spirit to those who ask him?”
Granted? No. Worked for, yes.
What do you believe to be the meaning of life?
Except one burns down a church would you?
I think he's conflating fundamentalist church goers with all Trump supporters. That's a mistake as Trump has a really diverse base of supporters, heck I would say a good chunk aren't even classical "conservatives".
I think there is a hell of a lot more diversity of thought when when it comes to Trump supporters as opposed to the left, ESPECIALLY after the Reddit purge. I think people even on here are getting used to a huge influx of moderates who support Trump (I'm one).
I don't agree with the anti mask stance, I don't play down covid as much as others do, but I've genuinely never had a conversation on here turn into anything more than a "Well I respect your opinion but I disagree".
You obviously don’t get it.... break the glow-stick....
The questions you have raised here today have been answered - Re read Matthew 7, then Luke 23: 39-43.
Now consider how best to apply what Jesus was teaching us in those sections.
The way some of the Churches are these days, any church goer could easily be a leftist. Jeremiah Wright is one example. Also, not that you asserted it, but many Trump supporters aren't Christians...like me, for example. Since I don't see Christianity as a threat to the West, I don't have strong feelings about it. Islam, however isn't even compatible with Islam, much less the West. So I see the ideology as a threat to Western culture and peace.
Go get aids and die, troll.
Ok, go get asshole cancer and die.