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Massive_rally 90 points ago +90 / -0

It used to be common knowledge that removing excess dead growth was key to preventing forest fires. But then Trump mentioned it and it instantly became "settled science" that forest management was a right wing conspiracy theory. They get what they deserve.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 13 points ago +13 / -0

California used to do controlled burns before the Democrats banned them. They used to have a nuclear power plant in San Onofre that provided 20% of the power to large portions of Southern California too before the Democrats shut it down.

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TheGreenPede 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yea CA is pretty ridiculous with policies. no controlled burns to save the tiny squirrels and wild life. but now the GIANT BLAZE is killing everything

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FireannDireach 6 points ago +6 / -0

Don't forget the NG powered plants. They're gone, too.

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_Sully_ 25 points ago +27 / -2

I studied earth and planetary science back in the early 2000s. The thought then was working to prevent forest fires was causing unnatural fire conditions through out the state. It created islands of old and new growth forcing a heterogenous distribution. This is actually a culmination of a few caved-in brain philosophies pushed by the borderline personality disorder environmentalists that in my opinion are some of the worst misanthropes you can imagine.

I was of the mind that it was true that forest management was messing with a natural balance of nature but that it was too fuckin’ late to pretend that letting it return to a natural cycle as it would for sure kill people. These environmentalist view humans as aliens from another planet that have zero place on Earth. We are a foreign parasite. It’s disgusting. If I suggest that maybe their fevered utopian dream of sentimental, rosy, imagery is a delusion and dangerous then I must be a denier if some kind.

There is a mind virus going on and it’s convinced people that thinking in sentimental terms is good. I think of it as an effeminancy of philosophy. It only cares about how things look and how they make you feel and when things go wrong it’s more important that you don’t yell than find solutions because that makes them feel bad. Also you are mean and didn’t really give them a chance—as the state burns down.

I know this sounds misogynist but it’s what it fuckin’ is. You want to know what the world would be like if it is run by women? It wouldn’t last long and it would still be your fault.

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boxmakingmachines 13 points ago +13 / -0

These environmentalist view humans as aliens from another planet that have zero place on Earth. We are a foreign parasite. It’s disgusting.

This sort of attitude has sadly become the norm in all sorts of environmental and life sciences these days; Humans a a plague, Humans are awful, Humans are the worst, etc.

Yet, humans are awesome. They are the only species which has the self-awareness to curtail it's own development because it realizes it impacts other living organisms. No other creature even comes close to being this kind-hearted.

Jordan Peterson was absolutely correct when he said that post-Marxists "hate the idea of being altogether", which is the most intense and vile hatred one could ever posses.

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_Sully_ 13 points ago +13 / -0

Slavoj Zizek opened my eyes to this. He said that ecology is a religion that views humans as things dropped into a perfect homeostatic environment that serves only to disrupt it. Environmentalism as it exists now is misanthropic. For it to reach its ultimate goal it would need a final solution. And like useful idiots and like minded “religious” zealots, the stilted environmentalist don’t even realize that they are first on the chopping block in the NWO when those grabbing power decide they are no longer needed.

Edit: I forgot the best part from Slavoj Zizek. He said (paraphrased) “We need to redefine nature. Rather than it being a thing that exists separate from humans that they mess up it needs to be described as a series of unimaginable catastrophes they we are now benefitting from.” I liked this take because this is reality. Our most fertile farmland exists because it was once underwater, the Hawaiian islands are an explosion of fire and ash, the white cliffs of Dover are literally the skeletons of trillions of dead animals.

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boxmakingmachines 9 points ago +9 / -0

And like useful idiots and like minded “religious” zealots, the stilted environmentalist don’t even realize that they are first on the chopping block in the NWO when those grabbing power decide they are no longer needed

The 2 biggest polluters in the history of the world are the USSR and The Peoples Republic of China. Pretty sure there weren't many environmentalists around in either country.

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ZeroDeltaTango 3 points ago +3 / -0

We also have music. Top that, jellyfish!!

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DebbieinDallas 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, we USED TO...in the 60s...but not these days

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daveywavey86 1 point ago +1 / -0

ironically, the band Jellyfish were actually a fucking awesome power pop band from the early 90s. give em a whirl, it was excellent beach boys style power pop.

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SellTheSun 5 points ago +5 / -0

Great comment. Can you write a book so I can read it? Ty.

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Bongo_Occidental 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’ve noticed a culture on the left and in young people that says it’s very clever to defy common sense.

Take universal basic income. On its face it would obviously never work because people suck and would only lead to inflation, mass elective unemployment, and a huge tax burden. The left thinks that because everyone else can recognize how bad of an idea it is, they’re clearly smarter for supporting it.

It’s like they’ve conditioned themselves to value nonconformity above all else. When their big ideas fail big, they have no choice but to admit they were wrong, or double down with more bad ideas.

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DebbieinDallas 2 points ago +2 / -0

“You want to know what the world would be like if it is run by women? It wouldn’t last long and it would still be your fault.”. It’s ALWAYS your fault! LOL

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Gmama2 20 points ago +21 / -1

I believe Native Americans even did controlled burns.

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lerm4comptroller 17 points ago +20 / -3

... Define "controlled." There's evidence that several Native tribes burned down forests for better hunting, but I highly doubt it was as some sort of strategy to clear undergrowth and manage the forests.

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BigMikesBlackCock 17 points ago +22 / -5

Indians were basically cavemen that lived in shitty tents I doubt they had any understanding of forest management

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Ghost_Soul167 5 points ago +7 / -2

I would suggest you read 1491: The Americas before Columbus. Many reports spoke of the natives burning every summer, and describe the forests of North America as well managed as the Parklands in England.

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Gmama2 1 point ago +1 / -0

You seriously should check out something called a "search engine"

Here is just one result of thousands. https://www.fs.fed.us/ne/newtown_square/publications/technical_reports/pdfs/2000/274%20papers/kay274.pdf

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Nunyo_Biznez 9 points ago +9 / -0

California would rather save bird instead of people.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 4 points ago +4 / -0

They slaughter millions of birds annually with their "green energy" wind farms and the solar bird vaporizer out in the Mojave Desert.

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DebbieinDallas 3 points ago +3 / -0

Wind Farms are Bird Murderers. We really ought to make this a thing. If we thought like democrats we would

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kmilt16 1 point ago +1 / -0

Plus the huge solar farms suck tons of moisture out of the air (hmmm🤔, could this be contributing to our drought situation?). It also burns me to see once beautiful areas dotted with crappy looking, broken-down wind machines.

The Democommies would like to dot every square inch of CA with solar panels and wind machines. They truly believe all electricity for the State will be generated this way (what the hell is wrong with natural gas?) They are truly, certifiably, insane.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 2 points ago +2 / -0

Those wind farms are an absolute blight on the landscape. We have them here in Oregon too. Endless rows of bird slaughtering monstrosities that generate meager amounts of electricity. If not for government subsidies they wouldn't even exist.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 4 points ago +4 / -0

It started long before President Trump. California Democrats banned controlled burns many years ago while I was still living there. The results were predictable and we are seeing it play out now. We are seeing the same shit from the same Democrats here in Oregon too.