On Wikipedia look up German revolution of 1918 and look up the family backgrounds of the Communist leaders involved. Then go to Weimar culture on Wikipedia, the intro confirms “Jewish intellectuals and creative professionals were among the prominent figures in many areas of Weimar culture.” and the section of that page on Berlin’s reputation for decadence confirms prostitution of minors, and acceptance of trans and homosexual individuals.
You are spot on.conservatives always talk about “ muh nazis and fascist “ every time they meet a despicable enemy or opponent.
Nazis didn’t kill entrepreneurs ;communism did that.fascism was majorly government forcing businesses to adhere to certain ideals and sell certain products.
It's just a generalisation or set of approximations.
I think in his example he's just basically presenting socialism as half way on the path to communism.
None of the examples are perfect but they have a very rough basis in truth.
The Nazi example would be correct in respect to their expansionism. Internally they were their own unique form of socialism which in part vaguely resembles China's partial hybridisation.
The more you go in the direction of socialism the more fascism is required.
Anarchism would be better described as you have two cows, shoot your neighbour and steal his cow.
The whole point of it is the punch line. Now you can breed the cows, now you have an entire herd of cows.
The Soviet Union was a communist state, not a socialist state. Under communism, there is no property ownership or private enterprise. Everybody toils for the state and the state apportions to everybody the same amount of food and provisions regardless of their abilities. There is no rich or poor people.
Under socialism, property ownership and private enterprise are allowed, but the state taxes a huge chunk of workers’ incomes and redistribute the taxes to support non-working people. The state gives cradle to grave care and “free” public education to everybody, but the oppressive tax deters business startup and innovation. The gap between rich and poor people is smaller. Socialism is the lesser evil twin of communism.
Are you a Bernie bro?
What you're reciting is the libtard bullshit that tries to convince people that Scandinavian countries are "socialist" only because they have a safety net.
Under socialism, property ownership and private enterprise are allowed
Absolutely fucking not.
The Soviet Union was a communist state, not a socialist state.
They had the word "socialist" in the name of their union. Ever wondered what USSR stands for?
Yeah it's clearly a joke. I'm not an anarchist but I know enough to know that anarchist movements don't actually preach anarchy as we think of it. (in fact anarcho-syndicalists are just communists)
Fascism is actually described pretty well there. Fascism is simply socialism with capitalist veneer. I think the more accurate version of this is:
You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to care for them, and sells you the milk.
Nazism is fascism. Go watch Schindler's List. Schindler has to woo party officials to get government approval to open his factory. Part of securing that permission is to show that his factory will benefit the state (first by doing something with the excess Jewish 'labor force' and later switching production from consumer goods to munitions). Once he's gotten permission from the state, he's able to engage in some limited capitalism. This opportunity is only available to certain people (party members, those the states approves of, etc). This is a major feature that differentiates it from true Capitalism.
Everyone should read Il Doctrina Del Facismo. Fascism has come to the US and it's bearing the name of Democratic Socialism and Crony Capitalism (government subsidies and bailouts/the government picking winners and losers).
That's complete bullshit, clearly written by an ignorant who thought he was funny.
Socialism is what is described under communism, fascism doesn't take your shit, and Nazism certainly doesn't kill entrepreneurs or farmers.
If they are jewish entrepreneurs or farmers the Nazis may kill them
Interesting. Do you have any reliable(or at least readable) evidence of that?
On Wikipedia look up German revolution of 1918 and look up the family backgrounds of the Communist leaders involved. Then go to Weimar culture on Wikipedia, the intro confirms “Jewish intellectuals and creative professionals were among the prominent figures in many areas of Weimar culture.” and the section of that page on Berlin’s reputation for decadence confirms prostitution of minors, and acceptance of trans and homosexual individuals.
And for absolutely no reason whatsoever....
gtfo. the nazi's gassed children you stupid, sick, ignorant fuck
Sure, I can see that, but, in general, the analogy is wrong as hell
Communism is waaaaay worse than nazism...
Which is already fucking horrible xD
You are spot on.conservatives always talk about “ muh nazis and fascist “ every time they meet a despicable enemy or opponent. Nazis didn’t kill entrepreneurs ;communism did that.fascism was majorly government forcing businesses to adhere to certain ideals and sell certain products.
There may be historic examples they have in mind of how that plays out as opposed to the exact definition.
I wasn't thinking of the definitions, I was thinking of what actually happened in history.
I got quite bitter because they try to make socialism sounds nice. That's a lie.
Stalin's Soviet Union is socialism. The government taking all your shit and then feeding you (or not) is socialism.
It's just a generalisation or set of approximations.
I think in his example he's just basically presenting socialism as half way on the path to communism.
None of the examples are perfect but they have a very rough basis in truth.
The Nazi example would be correct in respect to their expansionism. Internally they were their own unique form of socialism which in part vaguely resembles China's partial hybridisation.
The more you go in the direction of socialism the more fascism is required.
Anarchism would be better described as you have two cows, shoot your neighbour and steal his cow.
The whole point of it is the punch line. Now you can breed the cows, now you have an entire herd of cows.
Yeah, the only one of those ism's that gets you ahead is the last one, capitalism. The rest are all objectively bad.
The Soviet Union was a communist state, not a socialist state. Under communism, there is no property ownership or private enterprise. Everybody toils for the state and the state apportions to everybody the same amount of food and provisions regardless of their abilities. There is no rich or poor people.
Under socialism, property ownership and private enterprise are allowed, but the state taxes a huge chunk of workers’ incomes and redistribute the taxes to support non-working people. The state gives cradle to grave care and “free” public education to everybody, but the oppressive tax deters business startup and innovation. The gap between rich and poor people is smaller. Socialism is the lesser evil twin of communism.
Are you a Bernie bro? What you're reciting is the libtard bullshit that tries to convince people that Scandinavian countries are "socialist" only because they have a safety net.
Absolutely fucking not.
They had the word "socialist" in the name of their union. Ever wondered what USSR stands for?
Your socialism definition sounds like fascism, where you keep the cows and give the milk (taxes) to the government.
Yeah it's clearly a joke. I'm not an anarchist but I know enough to know that anarchist movements don't actually preach anarchy as we think of it. (in fact anarcho-syndicalists are just communists)
It's a joke but the reason I got bitter is that it makes socialism sounds nice.
Yeah, the "give one to your neighbor" makes it sound like it was your choice.
Bumped
Fascism is actually described pretty well there. Fascism is simply socialism with capitalist veneer. I think the more accurate version of this is:
You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to care for them, and sells you the milk.
Nazism is fascism. Go watch Schindler's List. Schindler has to woo party officials to get government approval to open his factory. Part of securing that permission is to show that his factory will benefit the state (first by doing something with the excess Jewish 'labor force' and later switching production from consumer goods to munitions). Once he's gotten permission from the state, he's able to engage in some limited capitalism. This opportunity is only available to certain people (party members, those the states approves of, etc). This is a major feature that differentiates it from true Capitalism.
Everyone should read Il Doctrina Del Facismo. Fascism has come to the US and it's bearing the name of Democratic Socialism and Crony Capitalism (government subsidies and bailouts/the government picking winners and losers).