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Italians_Invented_2A 9 points ago +11 / -2

I wasn't thinking of the definitions, I was thinking of what actually happened in history.

I got quite bitter because they try to make socialism sounds nice. That's a lie.

Stalin's Soviet Union is socialism. The government taking all your shit and then feeding you (or not) is socialism.

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muslimporn 9 points ago +10 / -1

It's just a generalisation or set of approximations.

I think in his example he's just basically presenting socialism as half way on the path to communism.

None of the examples are perfect but they have a very rough basis in truth.

The Nazi example would be correct in respect to their expansionism. Internally they were their own unique form of socialism which in part vaguely resembles China's partial hybridisation.

The more you go in the direction of socialism the more fascism is required.

Anarchism would be better described as you have two cows, shoot your neighbour and steal his cow.

The whole point of it is the punch line. Now you can breed the cows, now you have an entire herd of cows.

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CantStumpTheTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, the only one of those ism's that gets you ahead is the last one, capitalism. The rest are all objectively bad.

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570dbp -4 points ago +3 / -7

The Soviet Union was a communist state, not a socialist state. Under communism, there is no property ownership or private enterprise. Everybody toils for the state and the state apportions to everybody the same amount of food and provisions regardless of their abilities. There is no rich or poor people.

Under socialism, property ownership and private enterprise are allowed, but the state taxes a huge chunk of workers’ incomes and redistribute the taxes to support non-working people. The state gives cradle to grave care and “free” public education to everybody, but the oppressive tax deters business startup and innovation. The gap between rich and poor people is smaller. Socialism is the lesser evil twin of communism.

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Italians_Invented_2A 7 points ago +11 / -4

Are you a Bernie bro? What you're reciting is the libtard bullshit that tries to convince people that Scandinavian countries are "socialist" only because they have a safety net.

Under socialism, property ownership and private enterprise are allowed

Absolutely fucking not.

The Soviet Union was a communist state, not a socialist state.

They had the word "socialist" in the name of their union. Ever wondered what USSR stands for?

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570dbp 4 points ago +4 / -0

No I am not a bernie but a MAGA guy all the way. I voted for Trump in 2016 and will in November. I am accurate about communism. Go do your own research. Communism and socialism are not synonymous. There are some differences. One is fully controlled by the state. Everybody works for the state like in the Soviet Union. The other is mostly state controlled but not all. Socialist states takes money from you and give to others whereas communist states provides to everybody the same.

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Italians_Invented_2A 2 points ago +4 / -2

Socialist states takes money from you and give to others

Therefore America is a socialist country now, according to your definitions.

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DarkestMatt 2 points ago +3 / -1

That’s so cute... you’re one of those idiots who thinks the name of something determines what it is. You must be a real sucker for democrat named programs.

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Italians_Invented_2A -1 points ago +1 / -2

I'm using the definitions of fucking Karl Marx, the guy who invented this shit.

You believe the Democrats' definition, you mongoloid homosexual.

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570dbp 1 point ago +1 / -0

China is a communist state but it does not have the word “socialist” in its name, don’t forget. The Soviet Union was a communist country, not a socialist state.

What the dems are trying to do is socialism. They want to tax you and me to give to those who don’t work or the illegals. If they propose to take away your properties, then that would be communism. I am not defending the left because I don’t like their socialism BS, but I am trying to be accurate. That’s all.

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PoliticsAreBlank 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your socialism definition sounds like fascism, where you keep the cows and give the milk (taxes) to the government.

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570dbp 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am not so sure. Nazi Germany and Italy during WWII were fascist states. A fascist state demands total control of the people’s lives, but it probably allows private ownership like under Nazi Germany.

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570dbp 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you have two cows, a communist state will take both your cows and equally divide the cows among the people.

A socialist state will take one of your cows and give it to those who don’t have cows.

A fascist state tells you how to raise your cows and take the milk to support the state.