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Italians_Invented_2A 7 points ago +11 / -4

Are you a Bernie bro? What you're reciting is the libtard bullshit that tries to convince people that Scandinavian countries are "socialist" only because they have a safety net.

Under socialism, property ownership and private enterprise are allowed

Absolutely fucking not.

The Soviet Union was a communist state, not a socialist state.

They had the word "socialist" in the name of their union. Ever wondered what USSR stands for?

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570dbp 4 points ago +4 / -0

No I am not a bernie but a MAGA guy all the way. I voted for Trump in 2016 and will in November. I am accurate about communism. Go do your own research. Communism and socialism are not synonymous. There are some differences. One is fully controlled by the state. Everybody works for the state like in the Soviet Union. The other is mostly state controlled but not all. Socialist states takes money from you and give to others whereas communist states provides to everybody the same.

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Italians_Invented_2A 2 points ago +4 / -2

Socialist states takes money from you and give to others

Therefore America is a socialist country now, according to your definitions.

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570dbp 2 points ago +2 / -0

No, unless the democrats get to control the government. Remember taxation is a necessary evil. A capitalist country does require some degree of taxation to support the functions of a state such as defense but the taxation is just enough to support necessary functions.

If the government doubles your taxes to support those who don’t have skin in the system like welfare recipients and the illegals, then it would reek of socialism. Why do you think they call welfare a social program? Those who advocate for a welfare state are socialists.

America has not gotten to the point that it could be called a welfare state, but it will if the democrats control the government.

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Italians_Invented_2A -1 points ago +1 / -2

America spends a shitton of money on welfare recipients. Also gives lots of services to illegal aliens. America also spends a shitton of money on public health, much more than European countries per capita.

So according to your definition America is a socialist country.

But your definition is wrong. Socialism is the government controlling the economy.

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arebee 1 point ago +2 / -1

wouldn't taxes funding the police/military be socialism? It's necessary to a certain degree. I don't want my tax dollars funding safe injection rooms for drug addicts and shit though..

I don't know a whole lot about this stuff though and welcome correction.

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Italians_Invented_2A 2 points ago +2 / -0

Socialism and capitalism are two methods of managing the economy.

Socialism is the government managing the economy, which means the government decides what to produce, what job people do, and what people consume.

Capitalism means free market. The presence of taxes and public services does not change the nature of the economic system. For example Scandinavian countries have very strong safety net and high taxation, but they are capitalist countries because they have economic freedom.

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DarkestMatt 2 points ago +3 / -1

That’s so cute... you’re one of those idiots who thinks the name of something determines what it is. You must be a real sucker for democrat named programs.

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Italians_Invented_2A -1 points ago +1 / -2

I'm using the definitions of fucking Karl Marx, the guy who invented this shit.

You believe the Democrats' definition, you mongoloid homosexual.

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570dbp 1 point ago +1 / -0

China is a communist state but it does not have the word “socialist” in its name, don’t forget. The Soviet Union was a communist country, not a socialist state.

What the dems are trying to do is socialism. They want to tax you and me to give to those who don’t work or the illegals. If they propose to take away your properties, then that would be communism. I am not defending the left because I don’t like their socialism BS, but I am trying to be accurate. That’s all.