Now, what Matt Walsh said is true, but I have to stress that homeschool or online schooling isn't for every kid. During 6th grade we decided to start book homeschooling. We moved in a town with tons of gang activity and it was a huge Hispanic population in Grandview, Washington and we didn't like it there and didn't feel safe. So, we started homeschooling. And it hurt us in a lot of ways. Not only in the social part of it as I do have social anxiety and other anxieties but it also hurt our education. My brother and I needed more of a teacher. My parents weren't able to help with that kind of stuff. So, both schooling options has it's benefits but each child is different.
Now, I personally never experienced any indoctrination in my schooling but in today's climate it's everywhere so we really have to teach our kids or our future kids to sniff out bullshit if they go into public school.
That's a great way to look at things thanks! I am indeed writing in complete sentences, unlike PedoJoe. You're right! And those choices made me the 20-year-old I am today. I'm totally MAGA! I'm not perfect and I have a lot to work on, but those experiences allowed me to think a different way as well. So, there are benefits.
I don't disagree with you per se. But in a healthy family situation, homeschooling is 100% better than the subtle, and sometimes overt indoctrination of public school teachers. I think Matt Walsh's point isn't that homeschooling is for everyone. But that homeschooling is a totally viable option, where there once was a bit of a stigma attached to it!
Oh, yeah, for sure. Homeschooling is definitely a viable option and will be the best choice for many families. Every child and family will be different. I was lucky enough not to have that indoctrination in my schools. But in today's world it's everywhere. And being homeschooled doesn't mean you have to be not social. I failed in that department, but other kids don't have to.
I'm always willing to share my experiences. They're not perfect parents no one has them, but they did try their best. It wasn't necessarily the best route but it's a route we chose and we move forward not backwards.
while im a public school teacher, i agree on many levels. its not the teachers that arent essential, however. we provide an important service. its the bureaucratic system in which we are forced to operate that is non essential. we are not allowed to teach in the true sense of the word. Socrates himself would receive a failing grade as a teacher. we simply rush our schools so a bunch of meaningless boxes can get checked, until the end of june finally arrives. it destroys my soul.
You know that 20-30 percent of your colleagues could be fired and it would be no loss. You know who the dead weight is. Yet they continue to hurt kids.
Well if cops got as much 'training' and off-time as teachers, they'd probably be better. They're poorly trained and burned out. I expect them to sometimes be shit but do not blame them. They are in an impossible situation.
Also a public school teacher, but disagree with you. One caring parent, even a barely literate one, will do a better job with an average or below average kid than I can in a class of 40.
A bright kid, once they learn to read, often needs little intervention, but does need supervision.
There are plenty of homeschooling resources at the local library level.
More importantly, kids teach themselves if you let them follow their interests, protect them from addictive digital devices and provide lots and lots of books, which libraries and philanthropic groups provide to lower income Americans.
Strongly recommend Ray's mathematics and the McGuffey readers, both of which can be found free online as primary instruction volumes. The math is no-nonsense and the readers level up to Shakespeare, ask kids to memorize and deliver meaningful recitations beyond just the reading basics, and are impregnated with typical American (read: Christian) values.
The best Americans didnt have a teacher walking them through everything and compartmentalizing their lives and telling them when they could or should tackle certain texts or subjects.
I'll repeat my caveat of having a caring parent though. Sometimes people pretend to care, but don't want to put in the foundational work required to get a kid to the point where she can self-direct her learning and hold her accountable when she screws around, mostly because it's easier not to. A parent who doesn't properly discipline their child isn't caring.
And because we have a society that tells adults they shouldn't have to sacrifice any luxuries and at the same time devalues their labor through monetary inflation, often parents feel they both have to work. But if they do this with kids, they take a huge gamble. Imo they lose more often than win. The vast amounts of untapped potential I see daily at my high school are depressing af. Learned helplessness and the "soft bigotry of low expectations" are real and have enormous implications for American society, which you are seeing play out now in Portland, Seattle, Rochester, etc. Let's not even talk about the economic inefficiency created by mass government education because then I'll need a drink and it's 0630.
Tech will solve this though. Cummunity based ed pods will work. Online ed is much more solid than it used to be. The internet is rich in information and knowledge.
Give me only ten kids and internet access and I will produce ethical, disciplined, highly literate Americans. 40? I'll probably still only produce 10. Will yours be one of them? Maybe.
Public schools will never do what homeschooling or pods or micro schooling can do. There's too much power to be obtained by dumbing down the students through the systematic setup of overworked teachers and under challenged kids, neither group being held accountable for their ultimate performance.
I understand. Life is full of trade-offs. I'm not blaming, but an upper middle class (safe nabe, entertainment, two smartphones, car, vacations) in NYC necessitates two incomes. You can move, but there are costs. It's just a question of preferences. Econ's a bitch and sometimes the sacrifices are enormous to do what's best for your kid. Though not every kid will turn into a foaming at the mouth leftist monster, kids will definitely not reach their full potential in a public school; that I would stake my life on. Ask any kid in school if they're really learning; from about 6th grade up, they know it's all a bullshit game where the teachers pretend to pay them (in learning) and they pretend to learn (in bullshit, mostly irrelevant busy work.)
If we're going to do online education, why do we need to employ hundreds of thousands of teachers across the country? Why not just have a single teacher, per grade, per county? All lessons are prerecorded and could be replayed and studied more than once. No more pissing and moaning about "bad zip codes" or certain schools getting good teachers over other schools. Why in the world are we wasting tax dollars to pay 100 1st grade teachers in a single county to all teach the exact same material online?
Present this to any teacher who has voiced their opinion to not go back into the classroom and watch their world crumble.
Next time there's a teacher's strike in your area...I don't think people are going to flinch so easily. "Oh really? Well, I guess I can enroll in that public online school" or "I guess I can home school" or "I guess he can play Minecraft at home for a few weeks and maybe I can work from home". It's not going to be the end of the world.
This is not true. The lockdown has also shown us that if we were to take every billionaires money and redistribute it to everyone else, they would go to Walmart and Target and buy bigger TV's. Those COVID checks were the experiment in Universal Basic Income and it failed.
Now, what Matt Walsh said is true, but I have to stress that homeschool or online schooling isn't for every kid. During 6th grade we decided to start book homeschooling. We moved in a town with tons of gang activity and it was a huge Hispanic population in Grandview, Washington and we didn't like it there and didn't feel safe. So, we started homeschooling. And it hurt us in a lot of ways. Not only in the social part of it as I do have social anxiety and other anxieties but it also hurt our education. My brother and I needed more of a teacher. My parents weren't able to help with that kind of stuff. So, both schooling options has it's benefits but each child is different.
Now, I personally never experienced any indoctrination in my schooling but in today's climate it's everywhere so we really have to teach our kids or our future kids to sniff out bullshit if they go into public school.
You say it failed, yet you're alive to tell the tale and writing in complete sentences.
Like they say, the Devil's in the details.
That's a great way to look at things thanks! I am indeed writing in complete sentences, unlike PedoJoe. You're right! And those choices made me the 20-year-old I am today. I'm totally MAGA! I'm not perfect and I have a lot to work on, but those experiences allowed me to think a different way as well. So, there are benefits.
I don't disagree with you per se. But in a healthy family situation, homeschooling is 100% better than the subtle, and sometimes overt indoctrination of public school teachers. I think Matt Walsh's point isn't that homeschooling is for everyone. But that homeschooling is a totally viable option, where there once was a bit of a stigma attached to it!
Oh, yeah, for sure. Homeschooling is definitely a viable option and will be the best choice for many families. Every child and family will be different. I was lucky enough not to have that indoctrination in my schools. But in today's world it's everywhere. And being homeschooled doesn't mean you have to be not social. I failed in that department, but other kids don't have to.
Thank you for sharing. Kudos to your parents who saw a problem and tried a different route.
I'm always willing to share my experiences. They're not perfect parents no one has them, but they did try their best. It wasn't necessarily the best route but it's a route we chose and we move forward not backwards.
MASSIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RIGHT TO TAKE OVER THE "HOMESCHOOLING" "ONLINE SCHOOLING" Biz.... and return America to a 'REAL EDUCATION'
while im a public school teacher, i agree on many levels. its not the teachers that arent essential, however. we provide an important service. its the bureaucratic system in which we are forced to operate that is non essential. we are not allowed to teach in the true sense of the word. Socrates himself would receive a failing grade as a teacher. we simply rush our schools so a bunch of meaningless boxes can get checked, until the end of june finally arrives. it destroys my soul.
You know that 20-30 percent of your colleagues could be fired and it would be no loss. You know who the dead weight is. Yet they continue to hurt kids.
o yeah. i could run my schools with more results at 1/8 of the budget
Well if cops got as much 'training' and off-time as teachers, they'd probably be better. They're poorly trained and burned out. I expect them to sometimes be shit but do not blame them. They are in an impossible situation.
Also a public school teacher, but disagree with you. One caring parent, even a barely literate one, will do a better job with an average or below average kid than I can in a class of 40.
A bright kid, once they learn to read, often needs little intervention, but does need supervision.
There are plenty of homeschooling resources at the local library level.
More importantly, kids teach themselves if you let them follow their interests, protect them from addictive digital devices and provide lots and lots of books, which libraries and philanthropic groups provide to lower income Americans.
Strongly recommend Ray's mathematics and the McGuffey readers, both of which can be found free online as primary instruction volumes. The math is no-nonsense and the readers level up to Shakespeare, ask kids to memorize and deliver meaningful recitations beyond just the reading basics, and are impregnated with typical American (read: Christian) values.
The best Americans didnt have a teacher walking them through everything and compartmentalizing their lives and telling them when they could or should tackle certain texts or subjects.
I'll repeat my caveat of having a caring parent though. Sometimes people pretend to care, but don't want to put in the foundational work required to get a kid to the point where she can self-direct her learning and hold her accountable when she screws around, mostly because it's easier not to. A parent who doesn't properly discipline their child isn't caring.
And because we have a society that tells adults they shouldn't have to sacrifice any luxuries and at the same time devalues their labor through monetary inflation, often parents feel they both have to work. But if they do this with kids, they take a huge gamble. Imo they lose more often than win. The vast amounts of untapped potential I see daily at my high school are depressing af. Learned helplessness and the "soft bigotry of low expectations" are real and have enormous implications for American society, which you are seeing play out now in Portland, Seattle, Rochester, etc. Let's not even talk about the economic inefficiency created by mass government education because then I'll need a drink and it's 0630.
Tech will solve this though. Cummunity based ed pods will work. Online ed is much more solid than it used to be. The internet is rich in information and knowledge.
Give me only ten kids and internet access and I will produce ethical, disciplined, highly literate Americans. 40? I'll probably still only produce 10. Will yours be one of them? Maybe.
Public schools will never do what homeschooling or pods or micro schooling can do. There's too much power to be obtained by dumbing down the students through the systematic setup of overworked teachers and under challenged kids, neither group being held accountable for their ultimate performance.
yea but in nyc most families have both parents at work all day. its essentially a babysitting service. a ridiculously expensive babysitting service.
I understand. Life is full of trade-offs. I'm not blaming, but an upper middle class (safe nabe, entertainment, two smartphones, car, vacations) in NYC necessitates two incomes. You can move, but there are costs. It's just a question of preferences. Econ's a bitch and sometimes the sacrifices are enormous to do what's best for your kid. Though not every kid will turn into a foaming at the mouth leftist monster, kids will definitely not reach their full potential in a public school; that I would stake my life on. Ask any kid in school if they're really learning; from about 6th grade up, they know it's all a bullshit game where the teachers pretend to pay them (in learning) and they pretend to learn (in bullshit, mostly irrelevant busy work.)
My conservative school teacher friend thinks it’s a ploy from the left to destroy the school system. I’m like uhh... lol yeah sure. Hope it works.
I couldn't agree more
Plus sports and other stupid shit we don’t need.
If we're going to do online education, why do we need to employ hundreds of thousands of teachers across the country? Why not just have a single teacher, per grade, per county? All lessons are prerecorded and could be replayed and studied more than once. No more pissing and moaning about "bad zip codes" or certain schools getting good teachers over other schools. Why in the world are we wasting tax dollars to pay 100 1st grade teachers in a single county to all teach the exact same material online?
Present this to any teacher who has voiced their opinion to not go back into the classroom and watch their world crumble.
Next time there's a teacher's strike in your area...I don't think people are going to flinch so easily. "Oh really? Well, I guess I can enroll in that public online school" or "I guess I can home school" or "I guess he can play Minecraft at home for a few weeks and maybe I can work from home". It's not going to be the end of the world.
This is not true. The lockdown has also shown us that if we were to take every billionaires money and redistribute it to everyone else, they would go to Walmart and Target and buy bigger TV's. Those COVID checks were the experiment in Universal Basic Income and it failed.
Well, the street crime rate is up. Less crime in the schools = more crime in the streets.
Obviously, the Dems have done many things to increase the crime rate - but this is one of them.
Street crime is up because there is no law, not because there is no school.
Didn't I just say that there were many reasons ? How about reading before replying ?
So if both parents work full time jobs, what are you supposed to do with your 10 year old kids while you're at work?
Leave them at home alone?
The public education system in this county needs to change big time, theres no doubt about that. However, it is most definitely essential.
Seriously did none of you guys go to public school? I'm going to assume some of you did, and look how you turned out...