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I don’t want to burden you with all the negativity of our government being complicit in the murder of thousands of our citizens. Go ahead and take the blue pill for a day because that’s how it works.
This isn't even the most backlash I've received online so it's fine really. I understand where they're coming from. I just didn't watch the news or look at social media so far today at all (the morning would be the worst time), just spent it at memorials this morning/afternoon.
Please can we all stop saying that Building 7 collapsed even though it wasn't struck by an airplane? I know that is what happened, but it is clearly hurting OP's feelings.
Definitely don't mention that never has a sky scraper fallen due to fire before or after 9/11. Don't mention how all 3 buildings were designed to withstand a plane strike. Definitely don't talk about how cell phones don't work at 30k feet. Don't mention the unprecedented clean up of the debris before any investigation took place. Surely don't talk about the US allowing special flights for Saudi nationals to flee the country while every airport was on lockdown. Surely you don't want to mention the 100s of private citizens with cameras who's video never was shown. The same people who said they heard explosions at the base before the collapse. Let's not talk about the official report requiring the laws of physics to be suspended for it to be true.
Let's honor those who died by putting our head in the sand and not mentioning any of that. I'm sure it's what the victims would want...
Fuck off with your liberal speech censoring. We respect the fallen by not forgetting or glossing over the fact that they were murdered by our government. Any who choose to deny this or remain silent are complicit.
The truth is love, and the truth isn't going to be something you nessessarily want to hear.
Honestly I'm only 21 and these days I kinda look forward to remembering all the shady hokus pokus every year because it cements into a whole bunch of people younger than me that you cant trust none of these traitor scum 🙃
I've never seen anything that would point towards intentional murder by our government. Everything I've seen comes down to incompetence to identify a threat. Not necessarily better, but it is different.
You give retards too much credit. The only thing Muslims succeed at is following orders by wealthy benefactors. Fuck all Muslims and fuck all involved.
And who was it who gained monetary value due to the collapse of the towers? If anything, people lost money. Stocks fell 14% that day. People, especially millionares lost a shittonna money.
Of course I know the fucking diff, I’m saying people invested in stocks lost a shit tonna money. Many people thoroughly invested in stocks are hella rich.
Or how Silverstein who leased the towers two months before the attack just happened to choose the insurance plan that covered terrorism. He got $4.55 billion out of it.
Or the gold, silver and other precious metals in the vaults under the WTC complex. Only $230 million of half to one billion dollars worth has been officially accounted for. Even that might not be true, it's hard to tell cause it has not been properly investigated.
Companies do cleanup contracts like that all the time.
Also, the Twin Towers were a center for many small & large businesses. Did any of them make a profit?
You say people would profit from foreign wars, but history has told us we don’t need a real reason to start foreign wars. We just do it. We were already embroiled in endless wars in the first place. Why slam a damn plane into a tower to do it?
If anything, most companies lost money from the attack from a loss of property, employees, etc.
So yes, I know the fucking diff bro.
I'm totally open to the possibility that they had some CIA assets round up a bunch of radicals to help with their plot and serve as cover, but they did NOT act alone.
A 767 is 350,000*lbs loaded...traveling at over 500 mph...it's not a fucking soda can. Just because you can't understand physics doesn't mean the whole thing is a conspiracy...
Actually office fires do reach 500 degrees, and well beyond that, its one of the reasons that fire sprinklers must be plumbed in heavy wall steel pipe.
So if the steel was weakend by the fire we would assume that there wouldn't be even fail points for the building to collapse into its own footprint? One side would buckle before the other and tip over no? Seems odd that the building would collapse evenly since the damage and fires would not have been evenly distributed in any sense.
No explosions to blow out the supports. It would have been heated metal with kinetic force in order for it to collapse. We all saw the video. If there were explosions to force it to collapse, we would have seen it on video. That sort of kinetic energy cannot be contained.
A burning building is a wild fire? I got a story about a wild fire. During the mid 1990's a barn caught fire in St. Boni, Minnesota. The barn fire got so intense that it cooked the cattle to death even though they were 150 yards away from the fire. As a child, I remember that night. Everyone that grew up near St. Boni remembers that night. We could see that fire for miles around. The sky was bright.
Fire does amazing and horribly destructive things. How can a barn fire roast cattle to death 150 yds away? It's not industrial, it's just a fire.
Heat does amazing things to metal. Human civilization is completely dependent on us understanding how heat affects metal. Introduce a lot of heat to a steel beam and you compromised it's integrity under load. It makes it fold.
If you don't understand that basic principle then you're a fucking moron. Nothing else to say.
If architects and engineers could, they would make every building indestructible. But that is not how engineering works. The towers were insanely strong. And I believe they even considered what would happen if a plane crashed into them when they designed it. However, variables change. The planes got larger and faster, and no model is perfect at predicting what will happen in reality.
Not quite though. X amount of fuel is going to produce Y amount of heat in given Z environment. Now introduce kinetic force from the plane hitting the building. Kinetic force + heat = metal bending and eventually shearing.
The kinetic force they designed the building force would have been B amount of size going at C amount of speed to determine kinetic force of impact when the plane hit.
Yea, if you rotate enough math in the situation, it makes sense.
Easy, the mountain of evidence that shows other involvement. I've said before I would not at all be surprised if they got some Muslims to jack a few planes so they'd have a story for the news.
Remember when they called Trump a liar for saying how disgusting it was that you had some people in the country celebrating the attack? I was 9 years old when the attacks happened and even I remember the reports of people celebrating. I remember that being the moment I realized that all of the “fact checkers” are completely fake.
The idea that this was an elaborate conspiracy, but that they were incapable of using an actual plane on the pentagon is total nonsense. 4 planes were hijacked, but the government made one of them disappear without a trace so that they could hit the pentagon with a missile?? Just think it through a little bit. Nothing about that makes sense. I know people who work at and near the pentagon that could hear the plane approaching. Some of the other theories are plausible, but that one is not.
In the picture taken right after the event, before the roof collapsed, where is the impact damage? Eye witnesses did report a plane, but there are people who said it flew north of the gas station, which puts it on the wrong path for the story. The flight data recorder that was submitted shows an altitude of 180 feet at the impact. Elaborate conspiracy, not arguing there, so maybe an actual plane was involved.
So you think it's disrespectful to raise awareness when the deep state pulls one of their stunts and respectful to buy into their official narrative instead?
I'm not 100% sure if they got real Muslims to fly planes into buildings, not a hard thing to talk them into, but it is crystal clear that the Bush Admin. and likely Clinton before them facilitated this attack.
I get so tired of the truther's and negative people that disrespect this day. I wish President Trump would declare tomorrow some sort of National Holiday or National Day of Remembrance.
I wonder if google will change their search engine bar tomorrow to some thing honoring those who died on 9/11. Like they do for some obscure female black artist from like 50 years ago that no one has ever heard of.
What if the truth is what already came out. Would you accept it? Because you and everyone here sound like you won’t accept it until it fits what you believe.
Btw, I’m not saying you are wrong. I’m just saying that anyone could be proven wrong here.
I get so tired of the whiny cunts that try to say that not believing the government's official bullshit story is somehow disrespectful to the people who died. It isn't. What is disrespectful to the day and those who died is using their deaths as a bludgeon to silence people who don't believe the totally true story from the totally honest government who totally would never lie. Thousands of Americans were murdered, and we have not been told the truth; or at least the whole truth, about their deaths.
Well here's the thing. I'm always willing to sit down and talk about the governments involvement. Some stuff believe and some stuff is utter non-sense. But can we just take one day and remember these people and not talk about it? That's all.
People can say what they want to, but let's make the day about the people who lost their lives and the brave officers and firefighters who gave their lives trying to save them. Also never forget the passengers on United Airlines Flight 93 who gave their lives fighting the terrorists on board their plane causing it to crash; they gave their lives so no more Americans would die.
I have always maintained that a percentage of the population was just too plain stupid and gullible to be allowed to breed, and should be sterilized for the good of humanity. I was never able to come up with criteria that could not be interpreted subject to left/right bias. Then came the 9/11 truthtards.
Some people in the comments are jumping to conclusions really quickly. I said nothing in my post about where I stand on the topic. I said "conspiracy theories OR negativity".
Notice how I never said "conspiracy theories AND negativity".
Tomorrow will be asshole day here, and by that I mean all of the assholes claiming the jets were holograms and that the Jews did it and that there were bombs in the building and that if we only obeyed Bible prophecy this wouldn't have happened.
I feel like absurd theories, such as the planes being holograms, are placed in the public sphere to delegitimize any critical insight into shady events.
Many of us here recognize covid to largely be a hoax blown out of proportion to justify abuses of power, is it really that crazy to think elements of 9/11 were orchestrated to instate things like the Patriot Act or neverending wars?
The jets are holograms thing is stupid, but you should really educate yourself on the “Dancing Israeli’s”. They themselves admitted that they were there to, “Record the event”. Also, the University of Alaska Fairbanks has proven that WTC 7 could have only collapsed the way it did through a controlled demolition.
The crews melted the ice creams
That flickering fluorescent in the far corner over the ATM machine was no accident!
Also very small, nanoscopic termites.
I see what you did there! Lol 👀
kek
I detect a slight Indian accent.
uberkek
Sure thing random guy on the internet, anymore orders? Thought this place was a harbour for diversity of thought.
This was aimed at Americans but okay... Did you see the highlighted word there; this is a matter of respect.
There's a time and a place.
I don’t want to burden you with all the negativity of our government being complicit in the murder of thousands of our citizens. Go ahead and take the blue pill for a day because that’s how it works.
Kek
Silly way to phrase something on a board about liberty and freedom is all I was pointing out, but I get your meaning.
Fair enough.
We get you pede. No hard feelings.
People around here take things seriously. You know how it is.
Love you pede
This isn't even the most backlash I've received online so it's fine really. I understand where they're coming from. I just didn't watch the news or look at social media so far today at all (the morning would be the worst time), just spent it at memorials this morning/afternoon.
Thanks fren.
The time and place is on the day everyone is talking about it. Stop trying to suppress what happened.
You’re a huge faggot
Please can we all stop saying that Building 7 collapsed even though it wasn't struck by an airplane? I know that is what happened, but it is clearly hurting OP's feelings.
Most of Americans don't even know Building 7 fell down.
You mean the one with CIA and DOD offices in it?
Definitely don't mention that never has a sky scraper fallen due to fire before or after 9/11. Don't mention how all 3 buildings were designed to withstand a plane strike. Definitely don't talk about how cell phones don't work at 30k feet. Don't mention the unprecedented clean up of the debris before any investigation took place. Surely don't talk about the US allowing special flights for Saudi nationals to flee the country while every airport was on lockdown. Surely you don't want to mention the 100s of private citizens with cameras who's video never was shown. The same people who said they heard explosions at the base before the collapse. Let's not talk about the official report requiring the laws of physics to be suspended for it to be true.
Let's honor those who died by putting our head in the sand and not mentioning any of that. I'm sure it's what the victims would want...
Exactly. None of that.
Bandar Bush
I believe it was fire
That's fine with me, but you might want to check with OP before spouting your opinions.
No, I mean, the report actually said it was fire.
Never forget
That building 7 was not hit
Pull it
Fuck off with your liberal speech censoring. We respect the fallen by not forgetting or glossing over the fact that they were murdered by our government. Any who choose to deny this or remain silent are complicit.
You. You're one I like in particular.
The truth is love, and the truth isn't going to be something you nessessarily want to hear.
Honestly I'm only 21 and these days I kinda look forward to remembering all the shady hokus pokus every year because it cements into a whole bunch of people younger than me that you cant trust none of these traitor scum 🙃
I've never seen anything that would point towards intentional murder by our government. Everything I've seen comes down to incompetence to identify a threat. Not necessarily better, but it is different.
They knew and allowed it to happen
Perhaps I should clarify? I'm talking about Fed government.
Conspiratards gonna tard. It's like a religion for these cretins.
Conspiracies are fun. Some people take them too far though.
Skin walker ranch? Totally fun story. Some people take that story and try to make it real. All conspiracies are the same.
Agreed.
They were murdered by angry islamic faggots. Please shut up with this BS
You give retards too much credit. The only thing Muslims succeed at is following orders by wealthy benefactors. Fuck all Muslims and fuck all involved.
And who was it who gained monetary value due to the collapse of the towers? If anything, people lost money. Stocks fell 14% that day. People, especially millionares lost a shittonna money.
Everyone who sold short
Of course I know the fucking diff, I’m saying people invested in stocks lost a shit tonna money. Many people thoroughly invested in stocks are hella rich.
Plain and simple, 9-11 was not profitable.
Or how Silverstein who leased the towers two months before the attack just happened to choose the insurance plan that covered terrorism. He got $4.55 billion out of it.
Or the gold, silver and other precious metals in the vaults under the WTC complex. Only $230 million of half to one billion dollars worth has been officially accounted for. Even that might not be true, it's hard to tell cause it has not been properly investigated.
Companies do cleanup contracts like that all the time.
Also, the Twin Towers were a center for many small & large businesses. Did any of them make a profit?
You say people would profit from foreign wars, but history has told us we don’t need a real reason to start foreign wars. We just do it. We were already embroiled in endless wars in the first place. Why slam a damn plane into a tower to do it?
If anything, most companies lost money from the attack from a loss of property, employees, etc. So yes, I know the fucking diff bro.
I'm totally open to the possibility that they had some CIA assets round up a bunch of radicals to help with their plot and serve as cover, but they did NOT act alone.
Good luck with that.
The last day where RESPECT was the tone of the day was the day before social media went online.
Fuck this negative concern trolling title.
So you don't want to hear how GWB made billions for his buddies by allowing the Saudis to destroy 2 buildings?
Thanks Bush
"Pull it."
Bullshit, you show respect by exposing the truth.
Can I talk about it today then?
Go off... think of this as a bachelor party of sorts; tomorrow you marry RESPECT.
Thanks for the permission glowboy
Jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams.
But it does make them weaker and cause structural damage....like after a fucking jet hits a building.
The twin towers, if you had realized, didn't have 5 reinforced concrete walls.
I like the guy berating you for not understanding physics lol. I just want someone to adequately explain the nose in nose out video.
CNN was still very fake news back in 2001.
A 767 is 350,000*lbs loaded...traveling at over 500 mph...it's not a fucking soda can. Just because you can't understand physics doesn't mean the whole thing is a conspiracy...
He clearly doesn't understand physics, but when really you do the homework, especially the physics, it clearly is a conspiracy.
Where did the engines go?
They weigh half that loaded
You're a fucking idiot if you think that comparison is even remotely equivalent.
During Tornadoes, wheat straws have been driven through telephone poles. Inertia, you fucking retard.
"Rivers of molten weaker damaged steel!"
Actually office fires do reach 500 degrees, and well beyond that, its one of the reasons that fire sprinklers must be plumbed in heavy wall steel pipe.
It's like you've never used a torch before to give you the broader understanding of how heating metal/steel works.
Edit: added the /
Have you ever brazed copper pipes? Have you ever needed to weld something? Have you ever needed to heat a brake disc in order to knock loose a bolt?
Just curious.
FYI. I don't down vote people. So other people are doing that.
Edit: spelling errors.
So if the steel was weakend by the fire we would assume that there wouldn't be even fail points for the building to collapse into its own footprint? One side would buckle before the other and tip over no? Seems odd that the building would collapse evenly since the damage and fires would not have been evenly distributed in any sense.
No explosions to blow out the supports. It would have been heated metal with kinetic force in order for it to collapse. We all saw the video. If there were explosions to force it to collapse, we would have seen it on video. That sort of kinetic energy cannot be contained.
Look up how thermite works.
A burning building is a wild fire? I got a story about a wild fire. During the mid 1990's a barn caught fire in St. Boni, Minnesota. The barn fire got so intense that it cooked the cattle to death even though they were 150 yards away from the fire. As a child, I remember that night. Everyone that grew up near St. Boni remembers that night. We could see that fire for miles around. The sky was bright.
Fire does amazing and horribly destructive things. How can a barn fire roast cattle to death 150 yds away? It's not industrial, it's just a fire.
Heat does amazing things to metal. Human civilization is completely dependent on us understanding how heat affects metal. Introduce a lot of heat to a steel beam and you compromised it's integrity under load. It makes it fold.
If you don't understand that basic principle then you're a fucking moron. Nothing else to say.
Fire = heat. What is the amount of heat in order to compromised the rigidity of steel under load?
OH SHIT, BOOM! SOMETHING UNDER LOAD? OMG!!!!!
Seriously though, if you warm up steal, it become malleable. Which completely explains all that stuff.
If architects and engineers could, they would make every building indestructible. But that is not how engineering works. The towers were insanely strong. And I believe they even considered what would happen if a plane crashed into them when they designed it. However, variables change. The planes got larger and faster, and no model is perfect at predicting what will happen in reality.
Not quite though. X amount of fuel is going to produce Y amount of heat in given Z environment. Now introduce kinetic force from the plane hitting the building. Kinetic force + heat = metal bending and eventually shearing.
The kinetic force they designed the building force would have been B amount of size going at C amount of speed to determine kinetic force of impact when the plane hit.
Yea, if you rotate enough math in the situation, it makes sense.
They were not built to take hits from 747’s. 747’s didn’t exist when the towers were built.
I’m just going to be in a foul mood all day. Every year.
please don't exercise your right to free speech tomorrow....
I don't know why it's so hard to believe that a bunch of angry muslims flew planes into some buildings.
It's not. It is however hard to believe that that is why they collapsed.
Easy, the mountain of evidence that shows other involvement. I've said before I would not at all be surprised if they got some Muslims to jack a few planes so they'd have a story for the news.
Sort of after the fact now, but I don't see a link to the doc showing the dancers in your post? The post itself is still here, at least.
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edit: youtube has killed another huge list of channels. The info is still there on other sites:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GqIHMyetf8Wh/ -- who rigged the twin towers
https://dancingisraelis.com/
Found the boomer
Let's show some respect for the fallen by respecting truth and questioning the establishment's narrative. Let's also stop telling people what to do...
Sooo... we can't tell goat fuckers to get fucked?
CHECK...
( I will be on the road all day tomoro anyway )
The most damning video - a LOCAL CBS Affiliate shows what was going on in New Jersey during the Attack...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3auKMHkZJnQ
Remember when they called Trump a liar for saying how disgusting it was that you had some people in the country celebrating the attack? I was 9 years old when the attacks happened and even I remember the reports of people celebrating. I remember that being the moment I realized that all of the “fact checkers” are completely fake.
Fuck you.
I can show respect and still talk about what happened. It isn't disrespectful to have concerns about the MSM narrative at the time.
Spez: uplifting to see OP getting fucking rekt in the comments. I love you guys.
Two planes, three buildings
More than three! The whole complex got blown up too. In any other city WTC 5 and 6 would be considered huge buildings.
Jet fuel can’t melt steel. The pentagon was hit by a missile.
The idea that this was an elaborate conspiracy, but that they were incapable of using an actual plane on the pentagon is total nonsense. 4 planes were hijacked, but the government made one of them disappear without a trace so that they could hit the pentagon with a missile?? Just think it through a little bit. Nothing about that makes sense. I know people who work at and near the pentagon that could hear the plane approaching. Some of the other theories are plausible, but that one is not.
Hunt the Boeing! Test your Perceptions!
In the picture taken right after the event, before the roof collapsed, where is the impact damage? Eye witnesses did report a plane, but there are people who said it flew north of the gas station, which puts it on the wrong path for the story. The flight data recorder that was submitted shows an altitude of 180 feet at the impact. Elaborate conspiracy, not arguing there, so maybe an actual plane was involved.
Dominos, bud. Once one breaks it all breaks.
Fuck, what was the name of Gargamel’s cat?
I'm in.
The official story is the only conspiracy theory. All of us centipedes just want to know what happened to building seven
7/11 has jobs inside
It was the most successful and courageous rescue mission ever accomplished.
So you think it's disrespectful to raise awareness when the deep state pulls one of their stunts and respectful to buy into their official narrative instead?
I'm not 100% sure if they got real Muslims to fly planes into buildings, not a hard thing to talk them into, but it is crystal clear that the Bush Admin. and likely Clinton before them facilitated this attack.
Welp. I angered the foreign shills lol.
I'm doubling down. Only Americans will understand my sentiment.
I get so tired of the truther's and negative people that disrespect this day. I wish President Trump would declare tomorrow some sort of National Holiday or National Day of Remembrance.
I wonder if google will change their search engine bar tomorrow to some thing honoring those who died on 9/11. Like they do for some obscure female black artist from like 50 years ago that no one has ever heard of.
ya, fuck people who are pushing for the truth to come out.
What if the truth is what already came out. Would you accept it? Because you and everyone here sound like you won’t accept it until it fits what you believe.
Btw, I’m not saying you are wrong. I’m just saying that anyone could be proven wrong here.
I get so tired of the whiny cunts that try to say that not believing the government's official bullshit story is somehow disrespectful to the people who died. It isn't. What is disrespectful to the day and those who died is using their deaths as a bludgeon to silence people who don't believe the totally true story from the totally honest government who totally would never lie. Thousands of Americans were murdered, and we have not been told the truth; or at least the whole truth, about their deaths.
Well here's the thing. I'm always willing to sit down and talk about the governments involvement. Some stuff believe and some stuff is utter non-sense. But can we just take one day and remember these people and not talk about it? That's all.
“19 brave Muslims lost their life”. Probably
“19 austere peaceful Arabic scholars”
People can say what they want to, but let's make the day about the people who lost their lives and the brave officers and firefighters who gave their lives trying to save them. Also never forget the passengers on United Airlines Flight 93 who gave their lives fighting the terrorists on board their plane causing it to crash; they gave their lives so no more Americans would die.
You never know with Soy-gle.
Building 7 identified as a pancake and became one for no apparent reason
Steel loses more than 50% of its strength when heated to the temperature of burning jet fuel. Bends and crumbles easily.
Yeah, then it fails uniformly and the building falls at the speed of gravity straight down. Everybody knows that.
Yeah man! Mostly due to structural failure because the fire was too intense.
-9/11 Harley Guy
It only takes a single beam for a 1673 ft. steel pole to collapse.
All non-artificial intelligent entities in this thread please show your signs of life.
I am a freeman!
Building 7
Or building 7
I have always maintained that a percentage of the population was just too plain stupid and gullible to be allowed to breed, and should be sterilized for the good of humanity. I was never able to come up with criteria that could not be interpreted subject to left/right bias. Then came the 9/11 truthtards.
You sound like a fucking communist.
You sound like a fucking tard.
Agree.
It was literally a conspiracy
Fuck off, cretin.
Sure thing, tard.
Some people in the comments are jumping to conclusions really quickly. I said nothing in my post about where I stand on the topic. I said "conspiracy theories OR negativity".
Notice how I never said "conspiracy theories AND negativity".
Take your meds you schizos.
Let’s honor the victims by remaining silent and not mentioning the absurdities contained within the official version of events!
-Some guy on thedonald
Stay salty, Yeb!
Tomorrow will be asshole day here, and by that I mean all of the assholes claiming the jets were holograms and that the Jews did it and that there were bombs in the building and that if we only obeyed Bible prophecy this wouldn't have happened.
So yes, I am in 100% agreement with the OP here.
I feel like absurd theories, such as the planes being holograms, are placed in the public sphere to delegitimize any critical insight into shady events.
Many of us here recognize covid to largely be a hoax blown out of proportion to justify abuses of power, is it really that crazy to think elements of 9/11 were orchestrated to instate things like the Patriot Act or neverending wars?
The jets are holograms thing is stupid, but you should really educate yourself on the “Dancing Israeli’s”. They themselves admitted that they were there to, “Record the event”. Also, the University of Alaska Fairbanks has proven that WTC 7 could have only collapsed the way it did through a controlled demolition.
Yeah WTC 7 really got me caught up in it. I can see maybe the jets knocked the towers down, but another building next to it? I don’t know...
Yup, plenty of 'stupid' shit implanted to discredit the real stuff
I don't, I think it will be 99% patriotic remembrance like it has been since before those cucks at reddit banned us.
I mean just let people grieve in peace for a day then you can go about your bullshit year round.
Bush got us into the endless wars that President Trump is trying to get us out of.
Yes, but I'm not a 9/11 truther. Never have been.
I'd say a healthy amount of skepticism is fine. They're entitled to their opinion. Just time and place is all I'm saying.