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katsumi27 -13 points ago +16 / -29

Bin Laden didn’t do it. It was the Bushes and the deep state to usher in the TSA and the patriot act.

Learn from Benghazi.

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Saremei 12 points ago +22 / -10

Nope. Bin Laden did it all. They just didn't waste a perfectly good crisis.

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Litecola 3 points ago +3 / -0

Deep state globalists aren't Patriots. They care nothing for any citizen, of any nation. They believe they are higher than us.

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Litecola 1 point ago +1 / -0

Goals: all of the above, depending on which sub-group of dirtbags you belong to, but centrally it's always control. Look how quickly our freedoms were taken, still not returned. Covered up billions stolen through defense, military, started profitable new wars, created new govt orgs and got people in positions of power, made some groups rich/richer, etc.

Remember that the dirtbags are in competing groups, not united centrally. They all prey on the world, they all think they're above regular folk, but they are still jockeying between themselves for position, wealth, power. GWB was on one side, Clintons on another, Romney, Schumer, McStain, Pelosi, etc all have their groups.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +6 / -5

Morally there's no difference between Bush letting it happen (which I don't believe) or controlled demolition, which could happen without his knowledge.

There were planes, certainly. How do you know there was no controlled demolition? WTC 7 there certainly was. One of the towers had a work crew working on the very floors that were hit, using materials needed for controlled demolition but not needed for the balcony they were supposedly building. This seems pretty fishy to me.

There was no time to rig up the towers for demolition after being hit and before collapse, clearly. Any of that wouldve had to have been done beforehand. In the following 5 hours I certainly wouldn't have wanted to be working in #7, which suggests it was rigged to be "pullled" ahead of time. Why not the other tower?

I'm not convinced, either way. All footage has apparently been doctored. All the explosions that look like controlled demolition could be faked on video, Idk. I'd like an explanation for them that doesn't involve being deliberate, and there don't seem to be any.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

This "enough to collapse" part; every engineer that's studied it apart from the official account says no way possible for that to happen. What bias or motive do they have for lying?

What damage do you see that leads to collapse?

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 0 points ago +1 / -1

Stupidest, gayest thing you could ever say.

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NoraScholar 8 points ago +13 / -5

Not only that, but Bush pulled this off in a mere nine months? He didn't take office until Jan 2001, and the attacks happened in September of this year. If our gov't did have anything to do with it, Clinton and his administration were just as much to blame.

Of course, trutherism is total bullshit. I'm sick and tired of it, and now there's tons of people on the right believing that crap.

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SchveebleSchvobbla 2 points ago +4 / -2

Of course, trutherism is total bullshit. I'm sick and tired of it, and now there's tons of people on the right believing that crap.

You have the wrong Bush. Wake the fuck up and do some research.

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NoraScholar 1 point ago +1 / -0

Okay, so Papa Bush was plotting all of this while Clinton was President? How did he do that?

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NoraScholar 2 points ago +6 / -4

I agree with you. There are far easier ways to get oil if that's what it was for.

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Litecola -1 points ago +2 / -3

Okay step by step. Let Israeli art students do a project that takes them in both towers' infrastructure for many months without supervision, who publish pics in front of crates marked with the part numbers of detonators in a book with flaming tower art.

Crisis leads to control. We have major war expenditures, the usual suspects get richer, and bonus we've set up the western world for groping granny and the kids at each flight, and they were working on it for all terminals of any kind, remember? Watch lists anyone could put you on and you could never get off. Project Mockingbird gets extended. It goes on and on.

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