Thank you again for your post. I must return the compliment, your intelligence transpires from how and what you write. I carefully read your post, twice, and I thank you for the effort in writing it. I approach a conversation like ours as an opportunity for me to enrich myself, develop my beliefs further, and possibly stimulate others with my points.

I confirm that we agree on the two major points that you mentioned. I also confirm that your principles not only were my principles. They still are. It is with reluctance that I feel forced to suspend them in the face of the existential threat that we face, now. Our conversation is not about the best abstract way to organize a society; it is about how we survive the current situation.

I'd like to argue that ethnonationalism is strong, effective to get out of this mess, and is reflecting the wisdom of the Founding Fathers.

You're an intelligent person. A common mistake of intelligent people is that they assume everyone else is as intelligent as them. It would not surprise me if you were baffled by the fact that blacks overwhelmingly vote Democrats, even if the Democrats clearly haven't done much good to black communities. You probably rationalize it by blaming the education system, describing the Democrats as some powerful enchanters who hold poor innocent blacks under their spell.

But look at history. The overwhelming majority of conflicts in human history were based on ethnicity. On race. Nations have been built around ethnicity. Not ideologies or political ideas. America would probably be the only exception (but more on this later), but look at everywhere else on earth. This is because humans, like it or not, are tribal. Have always been, maybe always will be. There's nothing stronger than the bonds we develop with people who look like us, who sound like us. The Marxists have tried to destroy this for white people, but look at the bonds that individuals of other races have among each other. Note how BLM claims /claimed to be against police brutality, but they built their movement around race. That was their goal all along of course, but wouldn't they have gained more public support if they went with such a noble cause as stopping police brutality? The answer is no. They understand human nature. They know blacks get riled up along racial lines, and not a just ideology. Hell, they don't even call themselves Americans, they call themselves "African-American" (even if they've never been to Africa).

During the "crisis of socialism" in 1920s many socialists had to face an inconvenient fact. Marx had predicted revolutions (not exactly, but I'm simplifying) based on social class. Makes a lot of sense in theory; you have more in common with a black man who has a similar job and income, than with a white guy who is a millionaire. But the socialists had to look at the reality that the Great War was fought along national lines. A poor German and a wealthy German would fight together against poor and wealthy Frenchmen alike. And that's how Hitler got his "revelation" and National-Socialism was born.

This still exists, at least for non-whites. Do you think the Somalis in Minnesota are analyzing the finer points of Keynesian economics and judging it preferable to the Austrian school? Of course not. They see Ilhan Omar who looks like them, and they vote for her. Ilhan could come up in support of Trump tomorrow morning and the Somalis would still vote for her.

The unity and solidarity and strength that we can harness from an ethnostate is much greater than what we can get from any ideology, no matter how well thought out it is. If your ideology is "freedom" that is even more difficult because there are many ideas of freedom. We believe in the interpretation of freedom of Bastiat. Commies believe in a different idea of freedom. They would argue that it is not freedom when people die because they can't afford to heat up their homes. Could we win the argument? Maybe. But a rational thought is not as strong as the instinctive tribalism that is permeating your flesh.

The foundation of America does not represent an exception to this. America was founded as an ethnostate. Only "white" were citizens. And for centuries, the definition of "white" didn't include Italians and Greeks. Which is absurd, first because Italians racially are European Aryans and second because Italians greatly contributed to Western civilization (e.g. Renaissance). Italians invented a lots of things, so what gives?

America's "whiteness" rules were just as wacky as Hitler's, who didn't consider Slavs to be Aryan because he wanted to grab their land. And were not less aggressive either, as you can read from Jesse Owens' testimony that he felt treated like a human being in Nazi Germany but not in America.

I'm not shitting on America, please don't interpret it in this way. I'm trying to argue that the concept of an ethnostate is so strong that the Founding Fathers adopted it, in my view, to preserve their ideology of freedom.

Let's move to fascism as a possible solution. You seem to greatly underestimate the popular support that Hitler or Mussolini had. You said it yourself, someone can't rule a long time without popular support; Mussolini ruled for 20+ years and his reign ended only because of external forces. You take Hitler's flexibility of policies as a weakness, while I think it's a strength. You think of Hitler as a brutal unpopular dictator who ruled with the iron fist, oppressing his citizens. That's to avoid facing the fact that most Germans, and who knows, maybe most Americans at the time, would have been on board with the persecution of the Jews. Let's not go down this rabbit hole.

Fascism is pure populism, it's the will of the majority. Which doesn't sit well with us who believe in individual freedom. But it does have a counterbalance. I'd argue that the counterbalance of people revolting against tyranny is more present in fascism, as the dictator would pay with his life if things go wrong. Compare modern democracies, where a politician can deflect the blame to other institutions, blame his predecessor, and worst case scenario he just goes home to live in a mansion.

The fascism I'm envisioning would absolutely not persecute anyone who votes Democrats, or does a Twitter post. And certainly I would not deprive of liberty people because of their race, God no! First it would be immoral, and second like you said it would be impossible to actuate.

And yet, I'm convinced a fascist government could resolve things overnight, with very little bloodshed.

Send some black shirts in the offices of Google, Twitter, Facebook, Apple, Netflix, Amazon, and every other corporation that openly supports BLM or communism. Send some black shirts to give a taste of "it wasn't real communism" to the Hollywood elites. Force the mainstream media to stop their anti American propaganda and start broadcasting stuff like the video "With Open Gates".

As for the camps, these would be reserved to only the most prominent Marxists that occupy positions of teachers, college professors, judges, city officials. The list is not long.

Because I'm sure that our ideals would win in the free marketplace of ideas, all we have to do is to stop the Marxist propaganda. No other violence is necessary. There's a massive difference between what I'm talking about and a communist revolution. Communists want to deprive people of their property. This obviously encounters the utmost resistance, because people without property cannot survive. This is why Mao's revolution had a bodycount of millions. In America the Weather Underground were envisioning 25 millions Americans killed. That's what it would take to convince Americans to give up their personal property. But to convince Americans that white privilege is not real and that a transwoman is really a dude?

I'm conclusion, we both seem to think that this war that is currently going on will become "hot". Or are you still hoping for a peaceful solution? I ask genuinely, not a rhetorical question. So how do you think we get out of this? Wait until they shoot us and only then shoot back, intensely hoping that when the time comes they won't have taken control of the military through voter fraud?

Personally I'd prefer for patriots to pay a visit to silicon valley before we start getting killed. When patriots take over their companies and they complain about their constitutional rights being violated, we'll respond: "Didn't you know? The Constitution is a living and breathing document!"