How trustworthy is signal when you can only get it through the Google Play store or Apple's App store for mobile? What if I don't trust these app stores?
Anyone who doesn't believe this should just try it. Send only thedonald.win link to a tmobile user who has an iphone. This happened when I sent it. Scary as fuck but this is real.
No, iMessage is encrypted end-to-end, using public key encryption.
The sender encrypts the message with the recipient's public key, and the recipient decrypts it with their private key. Apple handles the exchange of public keys, but the private keys remain on the devices.
Apple cannot read the contents of the messages, and cannot reveal them to law enforcement. However, if you backup your iPhone or iMessages to iCloud, they are vulnerable to a subpoena.
The encryption protocol in iMessage and Signal are similar. From a user's point of view, the main difference is there is no out-of-band method available for contact identification in iMessage. Signal has a pair of "safety numbers" that you can exchange with a contact:
Lol retard..when I said we share links I meant we share them with multiple friends, coworkers, and family with no problems. This whole T-Mobile censoring thing is fake news.
It’s not fake, you likely had iMessage turned on. Trying turning iMessage off and have someone send you a link (from another carrier). It may be working now, but when I tried it on Monday it was not working but other links were working fine. TD links were being blocked.
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to be believable by plebs, this would need a video showing both phones side-by-side showing texts being sent and received, regular and blocked, in one scene. it could still be faked, but that would be very dumb to do so. screenshots otoh, very easy to fake.. especially with fake sms screens. cheers!
This happened to me when I sent thedonald.win link to a friend on tmobile. They also had an iphone. We traded screenshots and not shit the link was censored.
Test it if you don't believe it. Send just thedonald.win link to a t-mobile user. Don't know if it's the combination of iphone on t mobile.
Btw, it did wake up my friend to the scary censorship and the world we're living in. He was a former hard lib turned Trump supporter.
I am able to text it to my friend who has tmobile and android, any links sent to my gf with an iphone on sprint it gets blocked. I'm using Google Fi and android.
Not faked, there are people in the Google Fi forums of reddit saying the same thing, I know because about 2 or 3 weeks ago i found out first hand my phone was doing it as well.
Did they ever figure out if it was the google fi network or the phone itself? I have a pixel and was considering moving to Verizon because of the censorship. But if it is the phone itself, then I'm moving on.
Sent from att to T-Mobile no problem, both iPhones. I even tried www.thedonald.win and just thedonald.win and both worked. Only the latter came thru with a thumbnail if that makes any difference idk
Anybody with T-Mobile needs to document this immediately before they quietly walk the censorship back, file your complaint at the link above, and if possible get a free legal consultation to see if you have a case for violation of first amendment rights.
I submitted a complaint for censoring blielivesmatter.blue. After exhausting my tries with that, the FCC sent this response
Formal complaint proceedings are like court proceedings.
The filing fee for filing a formal complaint is $235.00 but is subject to change.
You must comply with specific procedural rules, appear before the FCC, and file legal documents that address legal issues.
Attorneys almost always represent parties filing formal complaints, and legal fees, in addition to the $235.00 filing fee, can be substantial.
I did this immediately, about 2 or 3 weeks ago, check my post history. Google Fi is doing the exact thing described in this post. They also block Breitbart links. not sure what others, but 100% on my phone it's TD.WIN and Breitbart.com
It's not an FCC violation, but 100% you should file a complaint.
It's because SMS messages are considered an information service. Fortunately, the chairman of the FCC serves at the pleasure of President Trump, and if he lit a fire under the ass of Ajit Pai, they could amend the rules to prevent this kind of election interference.
Your friends phone isn't even showing it received anything or even tried too. It could be your iPhone or your service from AT&T not even sending the link and blocking you from sending on your end. What happens when you send yourself the link or have you tried to send to anyone else?
iMessage doesn't provide any status on text message delivery when it's an SMS message. The only reason I've ever seen any kind of status is if the SMS message is rejected for some reason (i.e. not a valid number).
Message status is only shown for iMessages sent between iPhones, via Apple's servers. That's done via an IP network connection.
100% has been happening on my Google Fi phone as well, i did multiple tests between multiple friends, on multiple cariers, using multiple device types. It is 100% from Google Fi (my provider) in my case, doesn't matter if the receiving person is on iPhone, or Android, Verizon, ATT or T-mobil. They never get any texts that have thedonald.win links, or breitbart.com links. All other links i try come through no problem.
Look at my post history, i have posted here about this censorship just a couple weeks ago, who knows how long they have been doing it.
Emoji images aren't the same between different makers of phones or computers/tablets. Whether sending by text or email, it depends on how the operating system makers decided to illustrate each emoji character.
I have a iPhone SE 2020 (work phone) and a Samsung Note 9 (personal).. just sent the link to my iPhone and it wasn't censored at all... both are on Verizon network and used the native messaging app.
.win domains are typically associated with gambling sites, which is why they get blocked at the TLD level by some organizations. Also why they get labeled as "adult" sites.
It is unfortunate that the creators of this site used .win, but I still like the name.
100% not fake. The same crap happened to me on Verizon with a t mobile friend!! I was sending him links from thedonald.win and he wouldn't get them.
I thought it was my phone but after reading this I'm a little disturbed.
Ended up sending it to him through whatsapp and he got it.
Tried to send it about 4 times
Edit: confirmed this with another t mobile friend who didn't get the links. Had him send me screenshots of his phone bc I didn't believe him
I just did this between 2 androids with rcs. I have verizon my uncle has tmobile. I sent him website and it went through. When we both turned off rcs,it did not work
Back when I had t-mobile some tech bitch canceled my Trump mobile alerts. Upon calling them to ask why I wouldn't receive texts from Trump 88022, an actual helpful person at t-mobile was on the other end and said yeah it appears someone here at t-mobile blocked that number from being able to contact you. Needless to say I canceled them.
'Antifa' is for sure filtered on tmobile/metro. Friend and I were testing various words. We normally use signal, but wow. Now theres gonna be an explosion of users on signal soon. And other apps. This is just the beginning. Many more words will be added in the coming weeks.
There is some truth to this! I just used one of those online text services to send myself two texts, one was just "test", and this text came in. The other one was thedonald.win, and I never received it.
I recently found that T-Mobile censors bluelivesmatter.blue links as well. I found all .blue and .red top level domains are censored for incoming and outgoing texts. I reported it to the FCC and T-Mobile said they were blocking them because I have been engaging in spam marketing, which isn't true. There wasn't any resolution
Not everyone has an app to film the screen on their phones. You try it. Send thedonald.win to a tmobile user. It might be a combination tmobile users with an iphone.
You can confirm this by yourself using t-mobile's email to phone feature. Send a message to [email protected], where XXXYYYZZZZ is your phone number. Messages that don't mention thedonald.win get through. Ones that do have the link, will bounce back to the email client with a "550 permanent failure for one or more recipients ([email protected]:blocked)"
Similar thing happened to me on facebook messenger, i just told him about thedonald.win and when I pressed enter to send it, I got a pop-up saying "It looks like you're trying to send an unsafe link" or something along those lines. Very odd because I've never seen that message ever before on facebook chat, and of course if you type something like theapple.win you don't get any message; i tested it out. Very suspicious
How much would a campaign have to pay to have their opponents deplatformed? A considerable sum, I'd bet. Alternatively, what would the price be for the associated 'excess' of material supporting the other side?
This censorship is effectively a massive unreported donation.
FYI, I just tried this myself, because I wanted to see if all *.win domains were blocked. Between my iPhone and the Google Voice web client, I was able to send thedonald.win and antifa.com in both directions. There was no problem.
Did you happen to send an entire article or comment URL, or just the top level domain name? I wondered if the obfuscated comment URL like https://thedonald.win/p/HElLV2uX/x/c/16bPH1yxUr would be blocked because it looked suspicious, but I just tried that and it worked, too.
However, the TITLE of the page contains it, and perhaps they are checking the contents of the web page? Some email services look at the content to determine if it links to malware.
But, I just tried it with the above URL, and it worked fine.
I'm beginning to wonder if there's some sort of anti-spam filtering kicking in. GV might not be blocking specific URLs, but if you suddenly send it to a whole bunch of people, it triggers an anti-spam measure. If so, it's probably temporary and would be withdrawn automatically after some period of time.
While it's not exactly the same, my email server and web server have rate limits on incoming connections.
I have tmobile and my wife has verizon. I have google services removed from my android. I could send her links, but when she sent to me they failed. She tried again using samsung messenger app and it worked. It was the google messenger app blocking the link.
THIS HAPPENED TO ME TOO!!! But I have Charter Spectum Mobile. I was sending my cousin the link and he didn't get it. He thought I was crazy and freaking out but he sent me screenshots from his phone and it was the exact same thing.
Perhaps the SMS didn't go through. Perhaps OP is lying... .Win is popular now so we need to be skeptical and thorough regarding any of these types of claims. It's been 5 hours and OP still hasn't returned to answer any questions or provide more data...
The issue appears to be with T-Mobile servers flagging links that are not “.com” as spam. I have seen reports of texts also not coming through containing a link to YouTube shortened as “youtu.be” for example
tmobile stores have signs supporting BLM
Well ... to be fair it isn't safe for cucks.
At least they know grown ups are conservative.
How trustworthy is signal when you can only get it through the Google Play store or Apple's App store for mobile? What if I don't trust these app stores?
Use it and love it.
Also used by antifa and blm to coordinate........
Is it actually secure if you are required to enter your phone number?
Getting the apk from elsewhere doesn't exactly help if the organization officially only links to the app stores.
On that note, what's the thoughts on Telegram?
Is it actually secure if you have to attach your phone number to it?
Anyone who doesn't believe this should just try it. Send only thedonald.win link to a tmobile user who has an iphone. This happened when I sent it. Scary as fuck but this is real.
My wife and I both are on T-Mobile with iPhones and we send Donald.win links to each other and friends all the time with no problems.
Is this illegal what they are doing?
No, SMS messages are considered an information service, not subject to common carrier protections.
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/now-i-get-it-using-fcc-s-order-keeping-text-messages-information-services-to-better#:~:text=Well%20the%20FCC%20has%20an,carriers%20can't%20stop%20them.
It would be incumbent for Ajit Pai to amend the FCC rules to prevent this kind of censorship.
yes, its a public utility.
Did you ever stop to think that maybe it’s because you share a plan🤔
Edit: to dipshits downvoting, they can do targeted censorship thus not censor someone who is likely to be RIGHT FUCKING next to you.
iMessage sends encrypted messages so people in the middle (T-Mobile) can’t tamper with them.
It only works between iPhones however.
No, iMessage is encrypted end-to-end, using public key encryption.
The sender encrypts the message with the recipient's public key, and the recipient decrypts it with their private key. Apple handles the exchange of public keys, but the private keys remain on the devices.
Apple cannot read the contents of the messages, and cannot reveal them to law enforcement. However, if you backup your iPhone or iMessages to iCloud, they are vulnerable to a subpoena.
The encryption protocol in iMessage and Signal are similar. From a user's point of view, the main difference is there is no out-of-band method available for contact identification in iMessage. Signal has a pair of "safety numbers" that you can exchange with a contact:
https://www.signal.org/blog/safety-number-updates/
Yeah they obviously aren’t going to blanket censor everyone.
Lol retard..when I said we share links I meant we share them with multiple friends, coworkers, and family with no problems. This whole T-Mobile censoring thing is fake news.
It’s not fake, you likely had iMessage turned on. Trying turning iMessage off and have someone send you a link (from another carrier). It may be working now, but when I tried it on Monday it was not working but other links were working fine. TD links were being blocked.
Sorry but you sound mentally ill dude.
Here comes the personal insults. Tells me all I need to know- this is real and shills like you are being deployed for damage control.
Did you turn off imessages and try it?
From t-mobile to t-mobile the text comes thru
It's not just T-Mobile I had an issue with my AT&T phone.
After that, try sending it as thedonald(dot)win and see if it censors that too.
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if they were 98% of your customers you probably would too
And that is a racial domestic terrorist group.
thedonald(dot)win
It’s should easy to send just the links; Ive never noticed my txt being censor, I use Dust on occasion too
to be believable by plebs, this would need a video showing both phones side-by-side showing texts being sent and received, regular and blocked, in one scene. it could still be faked, but that would be very dumb to do so. screenshots otoh, very easy to fake.. especially with fake sms screens. cheers!
mfw no friends to text.
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This happened to me when I sent thedonald.win link to a friend on tmobile. They also had an iphone. We traded screenshots and not shit the link was censored.
Test it if you don't believe it. Send just thedonald.win link to a t-mobile user. Don't know if it's the combination of iphone on t mobile.
Btw, it did wake up my friend to the scary censorship and the world we're living in. He was a former hard lib turned Trump supporter.
I sent it to myself and got it
Me, too. No problem getting it. I have T-Mobile and iPhone.
Same my wife and I send donald.win links with no problem all the time. Also on iPhones with T-Mobile
I am able to text it to my friend who has tmobile and android, any links sent to my gf with an iphone on sprint it gets blocked. I'm using Google Fi and android.
Strange it may be regional then
Sent it to my son, works fine.
I have sprint which is now T-Mobile. I’ll try it out...
It worked from Sprint to a Verizon phone.
Not faked, there are people in the Google Fi forums of reddit saying the same thing, I know because about 2 or 3 weeks ago i found out first hand my phone was doing it as well.
Did they ever figure out if it was the google fi network or the phone itself? I have a pixel and was considering moving to Verizon because of the censorship. But if it is the phone itself, then I'm moving on.
It's the network
Sent from att to T-Mobile no problem, both iPhones. I even tried www.thedonald.win and just thedonald.win and both worked. Only the latter came thru with a thumbnail if that makes any difference idk
Try it with iMessage turned off to be sure.
Thank you.
I have tmobile and share .win links all the time and have never had any issues.
Send it as biden2020.win like:
http://biden2020.win/p/HElLV2uX/urgent-tmobile-caught-censoring-/c/
Hilarious.. I didn't realize we had that functionality!
All bases are covered. Genius mods.
If Antifa.com can redirect to Biden's website, it's only fair there should be a Biden2020.win redirect to TD to redpill.
Holy cow, man!
LOL! Saved for future use, this could be fun.
That’s awesome!!
Does this work as a workaround to Reddit’s .win censorship?
I believe this is an FCC violation. You should file a formal complaint: https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/articles/360001201223
Also file a complaint with your State Attorney General.
Keep us updated.
Anybody with T-Mobile needs to document this immediately before they quietly walk the censorship back, file your complaint at the link above, and if possible get a free legal consultation to see if you have a case for violation of first amendment rights.
I submitted a complaint for censoring blielivesmatter.blue. After exhausting my tries with that, the FCC sent this response
What the fuck do our taxes pay for then? Useless desk jockeys.
I did this immediately, about 2 or 3 weeks ago, check my post history. Google Fi is doing the exact thing described in this post. They also block Breitbart links. not sure what others, but 100% on my phone it's TD.WIN and Breitbart.com
Did the FCC respond?
It's not an FCC violation, but 100% you should file a complaint.
It's because SMS messages are considered an information service. Fortunately, the chairman of the FCC serves at the pleasure of President Trump, and if he lit a fire under the ass of Ajit Pai, they could amend the rules to prevent this kind of election interference.
Your friends phone isn't even showing it received anything or even tried too. It could be your iPhone or your service from AT&T not even sending the link and blocking you from sending on your end. What happens when you send yourself the link or have you tried to send to anyone else?
Just a guess but it could be Android.
Can confirm Android really sucks at SMS. I switched to iPhone 2 years ago and it's a night and day difference.
Why don't you think they block the site from the browser on your phone?
These are all SMS messages (the text is green).
iMessage doesn't provide any status on text message delivery when it's an SMS message. The only reason I've ever seen any kind of status is if the SMS message is rejected for some reason (i.e. not a valid number).
Message status is only shown for iMessages sent between iPhones, via Apple's servers. That's done via an IP network connection.
This happened to me and a friend. He did have an iphone.
Try another .win domain. It's possibly that the entire TLD has been blacklisted.
I’m calling BS on this until I see multiple people test and post results....
100% has been happening on my Google Fi phone as well, i did multiple tests between multiple friends, on multiple cariers, using multiple device types. It is 100% from Google Fi (my provider) in my case, doesn't matter if the receiving person is on iPhone, or Android, Verizon, ATT or T-mobil. They never get any texts that have thedonald.win links, or breitbart.com links. All other links i try come through no problem.
Look at my post history, i have posted here about this censorship just a couple weeks ago, who knows how long they have been doing it.
TD.win works for me but bluelivesmatter.blue is censored for all lines on my account
Yep. The emojis are not the same.
Emoji images aren't the same between different makers of phones or computers/tablets. Whether sending by text or email, it depends on how the operating system makers decided to illustrate each emoji character.
Emojis have a standard encoding, but some emojis are rendered slightly differently on different phone OS's.
Here's an example:
https://emojipedia.org/face-with-tears-of-joy/
ay thanks, pede.
I have screenshots just like this. I use verison and my friend uses mint. Aparently mint goes through t mobile network. So i can verify this is true
For me it works T-Mobile to T-Mobile. Works T-Mobile to at&t. Censored from at&t to T-Mobile.
This is a bit creepy.
I have a iPhone SE 2020 (work phone) and a Samsung Note 9 (personal).. just sent the link to my iPhone and it wasn't censored at all... both are on Verizon network and used the native messaging app.
YMMV.
Sue the (&#$ out of them.
.win domains are typically associated with gambling sites, which is why they get blocked at the TLD level by some organizations. Also why they get labeled as "adult" sites.
It is unfortunate that the creators of this site used .win, but I still like the name.
100% not fake. The same crap happened to me on Verizon with a t mobile friend!! I was sending him links from thedonald.win and he wouldn't get them. I thought it was my phone but after reading this I'm a little disturbed. Ended up sending it to him through whatsapp and he got it. Tried to send it about 4 times Edit: confirmed this with another t mobile friend who didn't get the links. Had him send me screenshots of his phone bc I didn't believe him
But not google or Apple since you have to use their app stores to install.
https://signal.org/android/apk/
I just did this between 2 androids with rcs. I have verizon my uncle has tmobile. I sent him website and it went through. When we both turned off rcs,it did not work
Can you clarify rcs? Is that encryption?
Back when I had t-mobile some tech bitch canceled my Trump mobile alerts. Upon calling them to ask why I wouldn't receive texts from Trump 88022, an actual helpful person at t-mobile was on the other end and said yeah it appears someone here at t-mobile blocked that number from being able to contact you. Needless to say I canceled them.
'Antifa' is for sure filtered on tmobile/metro. Friend and I were testing various words. We normally use signal, but wow. Now theres gonna be an explosion of users on signal soon. And other apps. This is just the beginning. Many more words will be added in the coming weeks.
There is some truth to this! I just used one of those online text services to send myself two texts, one was just "test", and this text came in. The other one was thedonald.win, and I never received it.
Absolutely insane
I can send http://thedonald.win to my wife's phone just fine (tmobile). Both android devices.
I recently found that T-Mobile censors bluelivesmatter.blue links as well. I found all .blue and .red top level domains are censored for incoming and outgoing texts. I reported it to the FCC and T-Mobile said they were blocking them because I have been engaging in spam marketing, which isn't true. There wasn't any resolution
CENSORSHIP SUX
Class action???
Film it this time.
Not everyone has an app to film the screen on their phones. You try it. Send thedonald.win to a tmobile user. It might be a combination tmobile users with an iphone.
You can confirm this by yourself using t-mobile's email to phone feature. Send a message to [email protected], where XXXYYYZZZZ is your phone number. Messages that don't mention thedonald.win get through. Ones that do have the link, will bounce back to the email client with a "550 permanent failure for one or more recipients ([email protected]:blocked)"
I posted a screenshot here: https://thedonald.win/p/HEprxpcW/
I've just confirmed that Spectrum Mobile did the same thing to me when I tried to send it (twice) to a buddy.
Similar thing happened to me on facebook messenger, i just told him about thedonald.win and when I pressed enter to send it, I got a pop-up saying "It looks like you're trying to send an unsafe link" or something along those lines. Very odd because I've never seen that message ever before on facebook chat, and of course if you type something like theapple.win you don't get any message; i tested it out. Very suspicious
And I'm just here laughing about the now censored Kyle Rittenhouse emergency gun meme review. Excellent taste.
Google Fi is doing it too, i sent proof to FCC, FEC, and the DOJ's election interference taskforce.
They also block Breitbart.
Verified. It seems to be anything with a .win. I sent T-Mobile.win, anything.win, and it didn’t go through. Vox.com, joebiden.com, rnc.com all did.
I have a work phone with Verizon and a personal phone with T-Mobile.
Update: I can send thedonald.win from my T-Mobile phone to my Verizon phone and it works.
ILLEGAL, IN-KIND CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS
How much would a campaign have to pay to have their opponents deplatformed? A considerable sum, I'd bet. Alternatively, what would the price be for the associated 'excess' of material supporting the other side?
This censorship is effectively a massive unreported donation.
FYI, I just tried this myself, because I wanted to see if all *.win domains were blocked. Between my iPhone and the Google Voice web client, I was able to send thedonald.win and antifa.com in both directions. There was no problem.
Did you happen to send an entire article or comment URL, or just the top level domain name? I wondered if the obfuscated comment URL like https://thedonald.win/p/HElLV2uX/x/c/16bPH1yxUr would be blocked because it looked suspicious, but I just tried that and it worked, too.
I was wondering if the post URL contained "fuck", and that may have been censored, but this is the URL I found:
https://thedonald.win/p/GvB1WsMP/young-patriot-leigh-guest-sings-/
However, the TITLE of the page contains it, and perhaps they are checking the contents of the web page? Some email services look at the content to determine if it links to malware.
But, I just tried it with the above URL, and it worked fine.
I'm beginning to wonder if there's some sort of anti-spam filtering kicking in. GV might not be blocking specific URLs, but if you suddenly send it to a whole bunch of people, it triggers an anti-spam measure. If so, it's probably temporary and would be withdrawn automatically after some period of time.
While it's not exactly the same, my email server and web server have rate limits on incoming connections.
Signal
Switch to Signal. It's free as in freedom and free as in coffee. It's on every platform. iOS, Android, Windoze, MacOS, Linux
Get your friends to switch.
Profit from encrypted communication that can't be censored.
Also it's an actual modern communication tool that doesn't limit your attachments or length based on extremely outdated tech.
Maybe we should by a new DNS point it to TD? Hidenbiden.com? 143-biden.com is available
I texted the link to four people (ATT my side) and had no problems. So I dunno
Just checked with my sprint line.
Sent the link to my wife and she got it just fine.
So it hasn't affected sprint customers yet.
Wooooooooooooow....
Great find, pede!!!
I have tmobile and my wife has verizon. I have google services removed from my android. I could send her links, but when she sent to me they failed. She tried again using samsung messenger app and it worked. It was the google messenger app blocking the link.
Switch to Dust; downside is it deletes everything after 24 hrs
THIS HAPPENED TO ME TOO!!! But I have Charter Spectum Mobile. I was sending my cousin the link and he didn't get it. He thought I was crazy and freaking out but he sent me screenshots from his phone and it was the exact same thing.
Good thing i stopped Tmobile a few months ago. Their service sucks ass.
Since TMob also owns Sprint you would expect the same there.
I have Sprint and link went through to Verizon phone
Perhaps the amalgamation of operating systems hasn't been completed (or begun) yet. They started with combining the retail stores.
Perhaps the SMS didn't go through. Perhaps OP is lying... .Win is popular now so we need to be skeptical and thorough regarding any of these types of claims. It's been 5 hours and OP still hasn't returned to answer any questions or provide more data...
We need an army of lawyers to be able to start suing the Hell out of these evil corporations the way commie pedocrats have for decades.
The issue appears to be with T-Mobile servers flagging links that are not “.com” as spam. I have seen reports of texts also not coming through containing a link to YouTube shortened as “youtu.be” for example
WTF?????
Hold up, this shit happened to me as well. Friend is on Metro POS, and he couldn't get anything regarding .win