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YuriBezmenov 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm (genuinely) not sure what the point of your questions are, but essentially my point is that with things such as the link you've provided about Turkey and Germany, as well as things like the mass migration to Germany in the last decade are less likely in a Germany that is nationalistic and not beholden to any international influence (to include the US).

Germany and much of western Europe needs western gibs mostly, if not completely, cut off. Germany needs to experience economic hardship in order for them to not feel a false sense of security that comes with globalism. Only then can nationalistic politicians rise and economic alliances with similarly-minded countries be forged. After Germany falls into economic hardship they're going to want change, and they're not going to be willing to foot the bill for the EU.

This crash is already coming with the exit of the UK, Germany's commitment to moving away from coal and nuclear, and now hopefully their need to pay significantly more for their defense. Germany will make less frivolous, and more nationalistic decisions once these things happen.

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somethinga9230k 1 point ago +1 / -0

But what if it is not economic success that is the source of the decadence, degeneracy, insanity and evil, but other factors? What does the images I linked to point to reg. that? Has the deep state in the USA (as well as the Soviet Union) acted not just towards the destruction of the USA, but civilization and the human species worldwide? Economic hardship might have multiple consequences, but they aren't necessarily guaranteed to give certain outcomes even if you have the same starting state (for instance, there was a lot of hardship in Russia at the end of WW1 - what did that result in?). And then you may have a (possibly extremely or entirely different) starting state in a number of critical aspects (and/or even most aspects), whether those aspects have been identified and/or understood sufficiently well or not. The "trope"/"meme" of "hard times create strong men, good times create weak men, etc." is often repeated in these forums, but one cannot take for granted that such is the way things have been going, are going, or will always go - what if the current and/or future situation is not a circle, but a downward spiral, one that possibly cannot be recovered from, maybe even after hundreds of thousands of years (or more)? And/or other sets of systems that are at play?

I do fully agree with them not having US troops for a variety of reasons, including that Germany and many other Western European countries do not uphold their most basic NATO obligations. That is not any meaningful kind of alliance. The UK, curiously, has upheld the obligation reg. percentage of GDP as far as I know, and has also participated and helped heavily in multiple recent wars. But given Rotherham-nationwide, Sadiq Khan, etc. etc. etc. ... They do have Brexit, at least.

The dissolution and/or reformation of the EU will likely be extremely good, but what will happen afterwards can be very difficult to predict accurately, especially because different parties may want extremely or completely different outcomes and results.