Informed voter is a nebulous term. You cannot define what an informed voter is. He's informed enough to know the party leading his state lead it into a shithole and the dems are running a guy w dementia.
Used to not be informed. Now he's surrounded by Texans and in his own words, is listening to their thoughts on who to vote for. I bet he did the same thing in LA, and that's where our leftie impression of him comes from.
You interpreted your own feelings towards these clips. Joe is a host trying to drive discussion, his whole purpose is to listen and at times play devil's advocate. He's one of the few who is willing to even discuss at this length regarding covid. Eddie is like us on here, and I get him too.
Heard him say, while talking to Ron White, that he was just going to ask the locals how he should vote, so as not to fuck up what they have going. Of course he moved to Austin, so that won't help much...
I don't think he's going to vote at all. It seems to me like he's pretty disgusted with the whole political process and just wants to make a shit load of money before everything comes crashing down.
Because at some point an event happens that wakes you up. It's happened to anyone who has been red pilled. Plenty of former Bernie ppl here. Do not shun those who took longer to get it.
As someone this happened to (but back in 2015/16 before the election) it was because I wasn’t really invested in politics and just listening to the news and what my friends were saying. I then one day had a good friend say “hey, watch Trump speak for yourself and you’ll realize that everyone is lying about him.”
I actually started watching Trump to prove him wrong and it totally flipped me instead. It’s so very easy to get caught up in the emotional rhetoric from the dem (especially Bernie) side, as it’s absolutely seductive because it offers answers to all of your problems and none of those involve things being your fault (other than the occasional virtue signal where you tell people you’re an awful person for existing). Once you realize how hollow the words are and how flippantly lies and aspersions were being tossed around, there’s no going back.
You are being a bit too harsh here imho. It really depends on their age at the time. If they were late teens early 20s, I don't fault them for listening to people like Steven Colbert and other celebrities giving them "facts" about politics. I was a kid during the Reagan years and Mtv brainwashed me really nicely into believing Reagan was a moron who was going to start WWIII. I supported Clinton the first time around because I really wasn't informed, just brainwashed.
By the time Clinton was up for re-election I had grown up some and realized how stupid I had been. I went back and learned all I could about Reagan and until Trump came along I considered him the greatest president I would ever see in my lifetime.
So, try not to be too harsh on the kids. Remember it is even worse now for them. They are indoctrinated by the media and the education system. It takes a lot of honesty and research to break out of that mold.
People who like Bernie fall into 3 categories. 1: people who like his policies. 2: people who want to use his movement to overthrow the establishment. 3: people who just see an old guy who genuinely wants to help poor people and are tired of dishonest politicians. Rogan fits into the third category, and once you start seeing Trump as more honest than the alternative choice, those people will jump ship.
You realize there's a difference between what Bernie's supporters believe he represents, and what Bernie actually represents?
The only reason people follow socialist/marxist/communist leaders, is because they're ignorant of the history.
Most people want the same outcome, we only differ on how to go about achieving it.
Those who follow socialist/marxist/communist leaders are just sheep being led with the promise of greener pasture. But that pasture is just an illusion. Sometimes they're able to realize they've been deceived before they're slaughtered. Usually they die still believing the lies.
America was founded by people that knew for a fact that life is what you make it. That there's no such thing as a greener pasture to be found elsewhere, and even if there was, unless you actively put in the work to keep it that way, it will inevitably become just as barren as the place you left, maybe even worse.
This is the wisdom that's being lost more and more each decade.
Will you stop being so fucking dense? He's talking from the perspective from an ignorant Bernie fan who hasn't been paying much attention. From that perspective, it is quite easy to see him that way.
Back in early 2016, I was a "fan" of Bernie Sanders because while I had paid absolutely no attention to politics before then, I could immediately tell that Hillary Clinton was fake as fuck and full of shit, and Bernie by comparison seemed extremely honest and real. I also liked that Bernie seemed to understand the problems of the common man, and that he had an extremely consistent record (of being a communist, of course, but I knew absolutely nothing about politics then). Then I started looking into politics much much more and quickly realized that Bernie was a commie and that communism was a total lie, and also that Trump wasn't the orange man bad that everyone said he was.
So yeah, I've been supporting Trump since around the time he got the RNC nomination in 2016. I don't care to get your approval, I know myself and I know I support Trump. If you don't want to acknowledge people like me, then you can fuck off.
Rogan is 100% voting Trump. You must not listen to him.
I don’t, and I believe he’s voting Trump, but don’t you think he’s the kind of guy that would still vote for democrats on the local level?
He’s voting Trump because it’s becoming much harder to perform the mental gymnastics necessary to support the Democrats.
You don't listen to him, but somehow have determined who he will vote down ticket? Seems presumptive, no?
Ehhhhh I think NWS is right. Rogan isn't actually an informed voter.
Informed voter is a nebulous term. You cannot define what an informed voter is. He's informed enough to know the party leading his state lead it into a shithole and the dems are running a guy w dementia.
Used to not be informed. Now he's surrounded by Texans and in his own words, is listening to their thoughts on who to vote for. I bet he did the same thing in LA, and that's where our leftie impression of him comes from.
^ THIS
It's like my lib-leaning friends who argue against me by pointing at repubs.
And the whole time I'm like, "HELLO!!! Read my lips: U-N-I-P-A-R-T-Y."
And every time, they cannot compute this response.
"Wait, so you hate Fox News too? Well then what other perspective is there?"
Me again: "MAGA, Lion party, let's go after the deeply entrenched corruption on both sides."
Them: <CPU meltdown since I've gone "off-script">
You interpreted your own feelings towards these clips. Joe is a host trying to drive discussion, his whole purpose is to listen and at times play devil's advocate. He's one of the few who is willing to even discuss at this length regarding covid. Eddie is like us on here, and I get him too.
Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mPAKMCEsWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbyIe_BnIHM
I very much doubt he's voting Biden. His platform is fair enough and allows for thought provocation, which is much better than 99% of media.
Living in LA vs Texas.
Joe is a social guy, and probably spent tou much time hanging around rich LA people in his spare time.
You’re right, I just feel like he’s a bit too apologetic for the damn commies, honestly I hope I’m dead wrong.
Heard him say, while talking to Ron White, that he was just going to ask the locals how he should vote, so as not to fuck up what they have going. Of course he moved to Austin, so that won't help much...
Yikes, yeah in Austin he could “ask a local” and be handed the Antifa voter guide lol
You are unfortunately not bright if you think this.
You unfortunately haven't heard him speak on Biden.
Him speaking on Biden wouldn't change how he votes. Rogan is not as one-dimensional as he seems.
I don't think he's going to vote at all. It seems to me like he's pretty disgusted with the whole political process and just wants to make a shit load of money before everything comes crashing down.
Which podcast did he say he's voting Trump? I honestly thought he'd vote third party like last time to keep that special status.
My phrasing was incorrect, its not 100% nor has he said it. However, he's fully aware of corona BS and Biden's dementia and is moving from California.
Because at some point an event happens that wakes you up. It's happened to anyone who has been red pilled. Plenty of former Bernie ppl here. Do not shun those who took longer to get it.
Exactly
...k. Nobody asked
So if someone is a Dem when they’re young but eventually wisen up and become conservative, they’re still your “enemy”?
Because if that’s the case, you shouldn’t even be here. Trump himself was a democrat at one time, so he should be “tainted for life” (in your mind)
As someone this happened to (but back in 2015/16 before the election) it was because I wasn’t really invested in politics and just listening to the news and what my friends were saying. I then one day had a good friend say “hey, watch Trump speak for yourself and you’ll realize that everyone is lying about him.”
I actually started watching Trump to prove him wrong and it totally flipped me instead. It’s so very easy to get caught up in the emotional rhetoric from the dem (especially Bernie) side, as it’s absolutely seductive because it offers answers to all of your problems and none of those involve things being your fault (other than the occasional virtue signal where you tell people you’re an awful person for existing). Once you realize how hollow the words are and how flippantly lies and aspersions were being tossed around, there’s no going back.
I’ve been on TD since its early days in 2015 my friend. You won’t find a more staunch supporter.
As I explained above, once you’ve torn off the veil of deceit that there’s no going back.
I wouldn’t cast aspersions on those who are lost and realize they are lost, and then independently look for knowledge to be found.
You are being a bit too harsh here imho. It really depends on their age at the time. If they were late teens early 20s, I don't fault them for listening to people like Steven Colbert and other celebrities giving them "facts" about politics. I was a kid during the Reagan years and Mtv brainwashed me really nicely into believing Reagan was a moron who was going to start WWIII. I supported Clinton the first time around because I really wasn't informed, just brainwashed.
By the time Clinton was up for re-election I had grown up some and realized how stupid I had been. I went back and learned all I could about Reagan and until Trump came along I considered him the greatest president I would ever see in my lifetime.
So, try not to be too harsh on the kids. Remember it is even worse now for them. They are indoctrinated by the media and the education system. It takes a lot of honesty and research to break out of that mold.
People who like Bernie fall into 3 categories. 1: people who like his policies. 2: people who want to use his movement to overthrow the establishment. 3: people who just see an old guy who genuinely wants to help poor people and are tired of dishonest politicians. Rogan fits into the third category, and once you start seeing Trump as more honest than the alternative choice, those people will jump ship.
LMAO, Bernie is helping poor people helping him buy a new house.
He will help the poor people to the killing fields.
You realize there's a difference between what Bernie's supporters believe he represents, and what Bernie actually represents?
The only reason people follow socialist/marxist/communist leaders, is because they're ignorant of the history.
Most people want the same outcome, we only differ on how to go about achieving it.
Those who follow socialist/marxist/communist leaders are just sheep being led with the promise of greener pasture. But that pasture is just an illusion. Sometimes they're able to realize they've been deceived before they're slaughtered. Usually they die still believing the lies.
America was founded by people that knew for a fact that life is what you make it. That there's no such thing as a greener pasture to be found elsewhere, and even if there was, unless you actively put in the work to keep it that way, it will inevitably become just as barren as the place you left, maybe even worse.
This is the wisdom that's being lost more and more each decade.
Will you stop being so fucking dense? He's talking from the perspective from an ignorant Bernie fan who hasn't been paying much attention. From that perspective, it is quite easy to see him that way.
Back in early 2016, I was a "fan" of Bernie Sanders because while I had paid absolutely no attention to politics before then, I could immediately tell that Hillary Clinton was fake as fuck and full of shit, and Bernie by comparison seemed extremely honest and real. I also liked that Bernie seemed to understand the problems of the common man, and that he had an extremely consistent record (of being a communist, of course, but I knew absolutely nothing about politics then). Then I started looking into politics much much more and quickly realized that Bernie was a commie and that communism was a total lie, and also that Trump wasn't the orange man bad that everyone said he was.
So yeah, I've been supporting Trump since around the time he got the RNC nomination in 2016. I don't care to get your approval, I know myself and I know I support Trump. If you don't want to acknowledge people like me, then you can fuck off.
Dude, tons of people that migrated to the_donald on reddit and now here were once Bernie voters that woke up.
There are literally tens of thousands of people that once supported Bernie that now are MAGA.