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posted ago by Mel_Gibsmedat2 ago by Mel_Gibsmedat2 +1704 / -0
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bellcurvestrikesback 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yet margaret sanger gets massively shit on here

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Smurfection 4 points ago +5 / -1

She should be. I am staunchly Pro-Life. So, no, I don't believe abortion is a solution to over population, would be bad parents, future crime rates or demographic problems. So take that Nazi eugenic stuff and shove it where the sun don't shine. Also, I ain't white and I'm voting for TRUMP! Suck a lobster claw!

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bellcurvestrikesback 4 points ago +4 / -0

Haha fair enough.

If we proceed from the premise the world is overpopulated, the best way to address that is through voluntary means. I agree abortion is not totally voluntary towards the fetus especially late term abortions, but I support the woman's right to choose in the first trimester.

I think a better plan would be to make vasectomies and hysterectomies free and readily available and perhaps even tie receiving long term benefits for nondisabled people to it. May sound a bit 'eugenicist' but it's just how I feel, I fear a world where idiocracy comes true and the idiots of all races abound.

This is of course presuming you feel the world is overpopulated. Alternatively if we could expand tech or the space program it would take a huge pressure off resources.

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Smurfection 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'm not paying third worlders to get vasectomies and tube tied. 1) mutilation isn't the right way to solve any problem and 2) we already give too much away to third world shit holes.

I'm focusing on the third world because that's were the over population problem is. It's not in any first world or even second world countries (2nd world is communist nations or nations formerly aligned with the USSR).

The problem with first world countries btw, isn't overpopulation. It's under population. We're not having enough children. If we don't turn it around we'll end up like western Europe. They're trying to solve their looming social welfare state collapse by importing third worlders which won't work because 1) they're importing mostly men and the population rate doesn't have anything to do with men. It's how many children women have. 2) third world men are culturally resistant to the norms of first world nations and do not become productive citizens but mostly end up as wards of the state one way or another.

There's even an argument to make that third world countries along with a few second world countries that have tried to slow the population increase have ended up with much greater problems. For instance: 1) Chinese men outnumber Chinese women by the millions so there are families have been abducting women from other nations and forced to bear a child for Chinese men. The other problem is that around a third of Chinese men have no chance of getting married and hundreds of millions of men who don't have families can drastically destabilize a country. 2) In some places, in Africa most particularly, AIDS and other diseases are killing off the adult population so quickly that its reducing the over all population too drastically and leaving just the elderly and young children alive.

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bellcurvestrikesback 2 points ago +2 / -0

Excellent point re first vs third world birthrates. I believe africa in particular is predicted to quadruple in population this century which could lead to localized famines.

I also agree the aid we give to third world countries is counterproductive. It seems the way to get birthrates in developing countries down is to help develop the country through investments in healthcare, education, and industry, not giving food aid to local warlords to redistribute.

But I do still think voluntary sterilization could play a role even if only 2% of people go with it. For example, the rise of lgbt to just 3-5% of the western population has led to a large reduction in birthrates. I am surprised this isnt more of a thing with the male disparity in china. So by helping these poor countries become self sufficient, promoting women's rights, and offering birth control (inc sterilization) the world can curtail some of the craziest birthrates.

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TenScoops 2 points ago +2 / -0

wtf I love Pllanned Parenthood now

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Mr_Pink 1 point ago +1 / -0

Give them time.