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posted ago by Easter_Bunny ago by Easter_Bunny +2743 / -0

Radio nerd here. (73 y'all)

I've seen pictures of people getting arrested and one thing I've noticed is that every now and again I'll see an FRS/GMRS radio with some of these rioters.

What does that mean? Well, it means they're organized. And you can be too.

As a radio operator, when we do events and such a common thing to do is to set up a "net control" or central command or some sort of base station. This station will have high power and an effective antenna. People can then meander around with an HT (handheld radio) and communicate back to the base.

This is effective in that two HT's, which are lower power and don't have a nice antenna profile, can communicate via the base station (otherwise known as a repeater).

This can work in a couple of different ways. In repeater mode, the HT's can all communicate with the higher power repeater and it rebroadcasts and everybody hears it. Or there might be a net control operator, the HT's communicate with net control (a person) and net control responds with advice or orders or some sort of information they wouldn't otherwise have.

This radio right here is one that is inexpensive and that I've seen used by people getting arrested. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BXCF85T/

Knowing radio technology, I can take an educated guess and say they're using GMRS. Here's why, a nice chart that shows the overlap between FRS and GMRS frequencies: https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/FRS/GMRS_combined_channel_chart

You'll notice peak FRS power is 2w while GMRS peak power is 50w. If they're following legal operating power, which a lot of radios require in hardware, then that means they're operating between the frequencies of 462.5500 - 467.7250.

What does this mean and what can you do?

Well you can get a GMRS radio and antenna and listen and record. This is evidence if they're coordinating criminal activity and could help in a RICO case.

So what to do... Keep in mind this is a "line of site" radio technology, so everything's within a mile or so.

Option 1: You can spend $20 on the same radio I posted (or any GMRS radio) and set it to scan between the above frequencies. You're free to roam around.

Option 2: You can get a GMRS radio (even the HT) and use a vehicle mounted antenna. This will use the vehicle as a ground plane and have much better reception, around 3.5dBi. Example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NWYVM94

Option 3: You can get a base station antenna and radio, this will have the most gain (up to 6.5dBi) with this antenna, but you're not going to be mobile. Example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0784FQ9VB

They're talking to each other and coordinating right under your nose, this is how you go about listening in. Record any crimes. Fuck it, give them false orders too. Don't let them own this technology, we can use it too.

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YourUncleBob 294 points ago +294 / -0

How about a live stream of antifa radio chatter.

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Lla26 144 points ago +144 / -0

EXCELLENT IDEA

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Rainman 81 points ago +81 / -0

That would be glorious

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Hunterscrackbaby 83 points ago +83 / -0

I could get something going. What to host on? Would probably get removed from Twitch/YT

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BeFreeToNotBeDumb 47 points ago +48 / -1

Discord stream?

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InterloperKO 29 points ago +29 / -0

discord is centrally moderated

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Infinite_Oreos 13 points ago +13 / -0

Seconding Dlive. Happening.Center does a great job from our perspective, and has been allowed to stream with impunity. I wouldn't expect similar leeway with Discord.

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SryServiceDown 32 points ago +32 / -0

Link us when you are ready pede.

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behemoth887 20 points ago +20 / -0

there's some stream site named dlive.tv that riot streams happen on sometimes

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randomusename 16 points ago +16 / -0

If you can, reach out to Steve at PT News. He has been streaming riots, and would be interested in this. I've been watching him for a bit now.

https://www.facebook.com/PTNewsNetwork1/

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Trumptastic88 28 points ago +34 / -6

its illegal to speak in code over the radio waves....but its also illegal to light s$!^ on fire too...

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HilaryAtCostco 11 points ago +11 / -0

Wouldn't those crimes fall under federal jurisdiction though?

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ifiwerearichman420 8 points ago +15 / -7

I honestly cant tell if he's serious or sarcastic. But there is no law against speaking in code over a radio considering almost all radio operators speak in some form of code. ie: 10-4 little buddy...

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Trumptastic88 4 points ago +4 / -0

FCC so yes

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quartz 7 points ago +7 / -0

its illegal to speak in code over the radio waves

Really? That's interesting.

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fuzzywhiterabbit 5 points ago +5 / -0

Encryption might be what they're actually referring to.

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cowpen 2 points ago +2 / -0

˙ʇǝuɹǝʇuI ǝɥʇ uo ǝpoɔ uᴉ ǝdʎʇ oʇ lɐƃǝl ʎlʇɔǝɟɹǝd s,ʇᴉ ʇnq sǝʎ

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Jack_Burton 1 point ago +1 / -0

They'll have to be pushed to private business freqs and that creates a money trail.

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0nDaFence 17 points ago +17 / -0

Get a SDR (Software Defined Receiver) kit off amazon. Tons of Open Souce programs and code bases. Can also implement GPS tracking with RSI/SN level readings. Auto generate metadata to a spreadsheet.

SD Cards for recording VOX information.

Basic vacuum is a monopole antenna. More sophisticated means can use Yagi or Parabola antennas for directional capabilities. Teams of 3-5 for triangle azimuth based Direction finding.

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dougEfresh99 9 points ago +9 / -0

Hack RF is a great brand. Learn GNU radio, and find some nice antennas that fit those FRS frequency bands. You can even link two or more of those Hack RF SDRs together for more fun! All in the name of science!

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cowpen 3 points ago +3 / -0

Pack heavy duty wire cutters.

Triangulate the base station antifa van.

Disable transmitting antenna.

Profit.

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_-Th0r-_ 16 points ago +16 / -0

IMO a full video recording is better than live stream.

Just as a streamer can end up playing against someone watching their stream, it’s probably better to just straight document their comms and release in full + highlight reel.

You gotta know those support vans are where this is all coming from.

Now I need to suck it up and finish studying for my ham license.