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The_Peter 1 point ago +2 / -1

You're right.

Thugs attacking women aren't the problem, they're the symptom of the problem.

It's no coincidence that the most egalitarian country in Europe is having the worst problems with this sort of behavior and I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for them.

They sowed the seeds of this with their female supremacy movement feminism and now they get to reap the consequences. Of course feminists will never accept the fact that this is a natural consequence of decisions they made a generation ago because the last thing a feminist will do is assign any sort of responsibility to women.

If they recognize the problem at all, women will never be blamed for their destruction of a functioning society because they thought it was "oppressive patriarchy". No, it will be because men are "weak" or "toxic".

And to think people fancy Sweden as the land of warriors and Vikings.

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hansgruber7 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's true that the majority chose this and deserve the consequences. It's also important to note that there is a significant minority (possibly including the victim in the article) who did not support it and are suffering the consequences as well and they do not deserve it. There are also children growing up with the consequences of the choices that others made. The kids don't deserve it either. There are many future generations who will suffer the consequences too and never chose it. But, yes, overall you are correct.

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The_Peter 0 points ago +1 / -1

It's also important to note that there is a significant minority (possibly including the victim in the article) who did not support it

I don't agree with that. I've yet to meet a woman that is truly against feminism. There's a lot of women that are against the consequences of feminism, but there are hardly any that are willing to say that the essence of feminism is a problem. All feminists are traveling along the same set of tracks headed to the same destination, the only difference is that some feminists (conservatives) have just left the station and others (shrieking blue-haired democrats) are closer to the final destination.

The essence of all feminism is the same, it's just a matter of how far people take it to its conclusion.

Of course it's sad and unfortunate when people suffer the consequences of decisions that they made out of ignorance or were made for them by previous generations. But I can guarantee you that an overwhelming majority of women and most men would reject the solution to Sweden's problems because it would mean setting different guidelines and restrictions for the behaviors of men and women.

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hansgruber7 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't know. I know a lot of women seem truly against feminism to me. Although this issue seems to have more to do with culture and immigration to me.

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The_Peter 0 points ago +1 / -1

Keep in mind, it is men's fault for even giving women power in the first place.

men are more at fault for giving power to women.

I don't deny that men bear partial responsibility for the current state of western society. But I would like to point out that before feminism "liberated" women, they were not powerless. They did have societal power that was was not as institutionalized as men's power but they had power nonetheless. They levered the power that they did have to acquire more power.

I think that one of the pitfalls that conservatives fall into is treating women as if they don't have moral agency and even when they fight against the system and get exactly what they asked for, they are still somehow victims of men's shortcomings and failures.

So yes, I agree with you that men are responsible for abdicating their responsibility and authority to women, but women are just as responsible for trying to seize that authority.

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Freedom4545 7 points ago +7 / -0

remember this is the same country where two hikers went to morocco to prove how wonderful the world is and ended up being beheaded.

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hansgruber7 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't see how the ethnicity and the culture survive. By the time the lesson is learned it will be far too late.

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hansgruber7 [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Sadly, I fear we may be one Democratic administration away from being done ourselves.

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7.62swinebuster 4 points ago +4 / -0

The hearty handshake of multiculturalism

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