Libertarian's greatest weakness is giving liberties to those that want to actively remove your liberties, same applies for anarchists and "left libertarians".
What the Marxist-Leninists (Bolshevisks) did to the Social Revolutionaries, Menshevisks and Anarchists should dissuade any of them from ever supporting Marxist-Leninists groups like BLM and Antifa.
For the curious, the Marxists-Leninists killed all their previous "comrades" because they weren't as radical as them.
Many, they sent to the freezing wastes in the north to be worked to death with barely any equipment, shelter, anything. They sent them up there to die trying to build a camp, then sent more to freeze to death building it, and so on.
And laughed as they died. They got quite the hoot out of former middle class people hauling shitty wheelbarrows of stone through feet of snow barefoot. Dragging frozen timber miles.
For the USSR you can't do much better than the abridged Gulag Archipelago to start. It's a very well made look at the psyche of the people who ran that Hell hole.
For the French Revolution...I haven't read it, but doing some research, The French Revolution: A History by Carlyle. It's always good to read older works about these events, not more modern works that have a huge time gap and often are written to distort history.
Yes, Why would I give liberty to people that will actively work to remove all my liberties and if given the chance would remove them at a moment's notice ?
Libertarians fail because commies will just run a tank over your home, kill you and brainwash and rape your children.
The left is mentally ill. They cry about police OMG they're so bad.
But ironically they're the ones CONSTANTLY calling the police. Waaaaah my 12 year old doesent want to go to school, my neighbor hurt my feelings, a car is honking it's horn outside, my thug boyfriend took my pills........
Well the city councilperson, Phillippe Cunningham, is the council's first transgender man and is pushing defund the police. Maybe that helps your premise about them being mentally ill. 🤔
Even surprised pikachu is sufficiently done with these brainlets to make an appearance.
Get rid of X - aaahhh we dont have X any more!
Cause and effect you bottom-feeding morons. Maybe you can apologise and resign for being incompetent and invite the police back nicely who you heaped such opprobrium upon.
What a chuck of a police chief. He should have ripped into the city council for being responsible for the violence by defunding and demonizing the police.
“That’s why I have advocated so strongly for the violence interrupters, because if they are interrupting the violence before the guns are being fired, then the MPD doesn’t have to respond to that violence.”
I hope these 'violence interrupters' have body cames. Would love to see how they diffuse these situations
And how are they interrupting violence? By asking the person to "be nice"? Appealing to logic and common sense? Leftists are the privileged ones, they live in a fantasy world.
A lot of police arent going involved in stopping stupid BS in liberal shithole cities anymore. Unless the victim is an honest hard working person who gives a fuck let them kill each other.
You go try to stop some street race or stupid nonsense in a democrat city what you gonna do arrest them? They put up a fight and people will cry police police brutality fuck that they don't want police they don't get police.
That whole broken window syndrome is going to take root, crime will drastically increase in shitrot lib unholyopolises, and they’ll all become thunderdomes- just soy versions of them. Let them all burn.
The problem is keeping the libs in while they burn.
Police doing their job were charged with murder, because a subject overdosed. Any remaining police sense they're at high risk for politicized prosecution.
The city supposedly is going to disband the police, meaning their job has no future, and they aren't appreciated.
The city was practically destroyed in the first riots, and the 2nd riots were because some murderer shot himself in the head.
People interfere with the police every time they try to do their job, and they have to fight with a mob calling them racist, threatening them, and worse.
Many officers have already left.
Do your job and risk being fired, injured, killed, mobbed, or locked behind bars. Or sit back, collect a paycheck, and hope you find another department that will hire you before you get laid off.
Much of the violence has been concentrated in neighborhoods on the city’s north side. Council member Phillipe Cunningham represents the 4th Ward, where a 17-year-old boy was shot and killed Monday afternoon. Cunningham said two of his constituents were also recently wounded by stray bullets while sitting in their home.
Was that 17-year old who died, or those other people wounded worth protesting George Floyd?
Recently, the council took more than $1 million from the police budget to hire “violence interrupters” to intervene and defuse potentially violent confrontations.
What the fuck is that? You're beating the shit out of a store-owner, and some dude walks up and says imma let you finish...
“What I am sort of flabbergasted by right now is colleagues, who a very short time ago were calling for abolition, are now suggesting we should be putting more resources and funding into MPD,” Cunningham said.
Maybe they were force-fed a giant dose of reality! I really do want them to completely disband the MPD. Lets get a real-world example of this happening, in one major city. No half measures. Get rid of the police entirely for a year or more, so we can put this debate to rest.
Insanity. Abuse for working, abuse by a thousand cuts, now, abuse for not doing the things we didn't want you to do. Oh, and surprised that the social worker "violence interrupters" don't work. Insanity.
Where does bail money go? If it goes to the police station, I say they keep on arresting these degenerates. Then they won't have to worry about being defunded!
Something tells me, (I've been a resident of Minneapolis for most of my life), that bail money doesn't "fund the police" but probably funds that flawed and immoral "restorative justice" programs Minneapolis runs.
Complain about the problem you created to get more power
This is nothing more than a political attempt by the underground communist socialist movement in the US to flip the US on its head to gain power for themselves.
I love how they are saying police aren't arresting people commiting crimes but completely ignore the fact their DA refuses to charge people with a crime after they have been arrested and the judges refuse to sentence people for any significant period of time.
If you want people to be put away for crimes it is NOT the police who put people in jail - It's the DA and Judges who do that and they have failed MN.
I would genuinely like to hear an interview by a Sara C or John S of these fine people in which they are asked what they thought would happen when you REDUCE your policing budget?? In re: please see NYC.
If only there were some way to defend yourself. We should amend the Constitution to do that. We'd have to be real clear, though, so no one could misunderstand.
We have an incidence of Pre-violence occuring at the corner of Soy Latte Rd. and Avocado Blvd.
We have reports of someone honking, and possibly even a verbally dismissive warning in the 20db audio range. A dog was also heard barking which may indicate violence is imminent.
dispatching four highly paid Violence Interruptors to contain the situation, armed with anal lube, a box of condoms and a pamphlet on sexy children costumes..
Pink Mist Halo Awards (TM) free the mind of the offending commie and free the host from the parasitic bond. Start giving out these awards as necessary, rinse, repeat until commie infiltrators = 0.
Who would have thought that, a poorly engineered Chinese bio-weapon that they accidentally released on themselves, which then failed to live up to expectations, could still be made into an effective and devastating attack against the USA by the Dems/Leftists/Liberals here!
Lol, good - let the police not make arrests, that’s what Minneapolis wanted. If they want law and order once more, the military can come and impose it at the end of a machine gun. Fuck them, they get everything they deserve.
Leftists talk about "allowing" people to be police and firefighters. These dumb fucks actually think people would throw their lives away for the thrill.
Many of these far left cities now even allow undocumented (read illegal) residents to run for local office and community boards... it is literally insane
MFW the Kurt Schlichter political fiction books I have read based on second civil war scenarios where the police are replaced by Marxist thugs comes true.
This author, who I highly recommend, is a prophet. Books are very entertaining and prescient.
Recently, the council took more than $1 million from the police budget to hire “violence interrupters” to intervene and defuse potentially violent confrontations.
Violence interrupters? So like a police officer with even less training, less authority, and no guns?
Sounds like a great way to steal $1m and endanger your community!
I REALLY hope the police officer who is interacting with these asshats is smirking, and laughing behind a cough. "Oh no councilperson, I am DEFINITELY looking into that." haha "What? No, that wasn't a laugh, that was a cough. Go on... I'm listening.... what was it you were saying about non-funded police not enforcing laws again?"
If you remove or defund any type of law enforcement in a city, crime activity is most likely to increase. Also, it’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out. There could be a chance that vigilante groups, organized crime, outlaw MC’s and street gangs will become more active in the Twin Cities
How in shit's fuck are refugees being allowed to be public officials?
Enough with the left's bullshit.
They're more American than Americans, according to our rulers.
This is what happens when you let commie-think to exist.
The cold war is still going
We allow freedom of speech for Communists, but they'll take it from us the first chance they get.
This isn't going to end well.
Libertarian's greatest weakness is giving liberties to those that want to actively remove your liberties, same applies for anarchists and "left libertarians".
They think truth magically wins.
They haven't read the history of the French Revolution or the USSR.
What the Marxist-Leninists (Bolshevisks) did to the Social Revolutionaries, Menshevisks and Anarchists should dissuade any of them from ever supporting Marxist-Leninists groups like BLM and Antifa.
For the curious, the Marxists-Leninists killed all their previous "comrades" because they weren't as radical as them.
Many, they sent to the freezing wastes in the north to be worked to death with barely any equipment, shelter, anything. They sent them up there to die trying to build a camp, then sent more to freeze to death building it, and so on.
And laughed as they died. They got quite the hoot out of former middle class people hauling shitty wheelbarrows of stone through feet of snow barefoot. Dragging frozen timber miles.
Any recommendation on readings on either? I’m really getting into audiobooks.
For the USSR you can't do much better than the abridged Gulag Archipelago to start. It's a very well made look at the psyche of the people who ran that Hell hole.
For the French Revolution...I haven't read it, but doing some research, The French Revolution: A History by Carlyle. It's always good to read older works about these events, not more modern works that have a huge time gap and often are written to distort history.
So what you're saying is only certain individuals whom you've deemed worthy will receive liberty. Sounds great!
Yes, Why would I give liberty to people that will actively work to remove all my liberties and if given the chance would remove them at a moment's notice ?
Libertarians fail because commies will just run a tank over your home, kill you and brainwash and rape your children.
You determine how much liberty is given and to whom. Sounds like freedom! Can't believe no dictator has ever thought of this.
In some cases this is true. The ones that come here to work and live the American dream are.
Sadly the ones that come here to live off American hand outs ruin it for the good ones.
Deport the refugees along with the leftists.
While that second part is a tad unrealistic, that first part?
Here's hoping Trump's gloves come off in November.
Illegals, "refugees", and anchor babies have no business being in this country
"HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED!?"
WHY WOULD TRUMP DO THIS?
FUCKING WHITE SUPREMACISTS!
The left is mentally ill. They cry about police OMG they're so bad.
But ironically they're the ones CONSTANTLY calling the police. Waaaaah my 12 year old doesent want to go to school, my neighbor hurt my feelings, a car is honking it's horn outside, my thug boyfriend took my pills........
Well the city councilperson, Phillippe Cunningham, is the council's first transgender man and is pushing defund the police. Maybe that helps your premise about them being mentally ill. 🤔
McDonald's is out of chicken nuggets!!!!!!
Even surprised pikachu is sufficiently done with these brainlets to make an appearance.
Get rid of X - aaahhh we dont have X any more!
Cause and effect you bottom-feeding morons. Maybe you can apologise and resign for being incompetent and invite the police back nicely who you heaped such opprobrium upon.
Next do firemen...
What a chuck of a police chief. He should have ripped into the city council for being responsible for the violence by defunding and demonizing the police.
That is an unfortunate typo. Defunding, not defending.
Yeah damn phone
We know what was meant.
I was going to say that as well. Oh well, it could be worse.
“That’s why I have advocated so strongly for the violence interrupters, because if they are interrupting the violence before the guns are being fired, then the MPD doesn’t have to respond to that violence.”
I hope these 'violence interrupters' have body cames. Would love to see how they diffuse these situations
Simon Phoenix, please be nice, or else.
And how are they interrupting violence? By asking the person to "be nice"? Appealing to logic and common sense? Leftists are the privileged ones, they live in a fantasy world.
A lot of police arent going involved in stopping stupid BS in liberal shithole cities anymore. Unless the victim is an honest hard working person who gives a fuck let them kill each other.
You go try to stop some street race or stupid nonsense in a democrat city what you gonna do arrest them? They put up a fight and people will cry police police brutality fuck that they don't want police they don't get police.
That whole broken window syndrome is going to take root, crime will drastically increase in shitrot lib unholyopolises, and they’ll all become thunderdomes- just soy versions of them. Let them all burn.
The problem is keeping the libs in while they burn.
Oh no! You've drank the kool-aid. They aren't on your side either! lol
Probably a mixture of:
Do your job and risk being fired, injured, killed, mobbed, or locked behind bars. Or sit back, collect a paycheck, and hope you find another department that will hire you before you get laid off.
Was that 17-year old who died, or those other people wounded worth protesting George Floyd?
What the fuck is that? You're beating the shit out of a store-owner, and some dude walks up and says imma let you finish...
Maybe they were force-fed a giant dose of reality! I really do want them to completely disband the MPD. Lets get a real-world example of this happening, in one major city. No half measures. Get rid of the police entirely for a year or more, so we can put this debate to rest.
Well said.
That 17 year old who was murdered was out campaigning for the republicans and trump. But it was not politically motivated
Insanity. Abuse for working, abuse by a thousand cuts, now, abuse for not doing the things we didn't want you to do. Oh, and surprised that the social worker "violence interrupters" don't work. Insanity.
It's not that the cops don't want to make arrests and get criminals off the street. It's that every time they do, the Marxist Democrats bail them out.
Where does bail money go? If it goes to the police station, I say they keep on arresting these degenerates. Then they won't have to worry about being defunded!
Something tells me, (I've been a resident of Minneapolis for most of my life), that bail money doesn't "fund the police" but probably funds that flawed and immoral "restorative justice" programs Minneapolis runs.
Just talked to my police sister. It does not go to the cops, it goes to their housing fees and other court fees I guess.
Hegelian Dialectic
This is nothing more than a political attempt by the underground communist socialist movement in the US to flip the US on its head to gain power for themselves.
I love how they are saying police aren't arresting people commiting crimes but completely ignore the fact their DA refuses to charge people with a crime after they have been arrested and the judges refuse to sentence people for any significant period of time.
If you want people to be put away for crimes it is NOT the police who put people in jail - It's the DA and Judges who do that and they have failed MN.
Liberals are mentally retarded damn.
I would genuinely like to hear an interview by a Sara C or John S of these fine people in which they are asked what they thought would happen when you REDUCE your policing budget?? In re: please see NYC.
Wow
We really need some new flair added “HONK” and/or “CLOWN WORLD”
Peak projection. Everyone the police arrest, those fucking commies either release or bail them out. Yep, totally the police's fault.
If only there were some way to defend yourself. We should amend the Constitution to do that. We'd have to be real clear, though, so no one could misunderstand.
Dont they have insurance?
"violence interrupters" what the fuck is wrong with these people.
I can't wait until the mortality rate of violence interrupters approaches that of field medics in Vietnam.
I think OP must have meant "defunding" instead of "defending."
We have an incidence of Pre-violence occuring at the corner of Soy Latte Rd. and Avocado Blvd.
We have reports of someone honking, and possibly even a verbally dismissive warning in the 20db audio range. A dog was also heard barking which may indicate violence is imminent.
dispatching four highly paid Violence Interruptors to contain the situation, armed with anal lube, a box of condoms and a pamphlet on sexy children costumes..
Brandt Williams is a disgusting propagandist who needs to be tarred and feathered.
just drop a nuke on MN that place is finished.
Most of Minnesota is fine. Like most states that suck ass, it's the cities.
Nah, lets actually remove the police entirely from that city, and watch the fireworks. That way we can put this debate to rest forever.
Before we reformat the area, lets try something crazy.
Lets actually defend the police, stop crimes, remove the politicians and see what happens.
But what can actually be done at this point?
We have obviously been infiltrated by a foreign power that has installed itself in our government.
Is there even a remote possibility to get rid of this threat peacefully?
For fuck's sake! So many of these people came here as teenage refugees! There's NO WAY they're even close to being assimilated!
They don't care about our culture, our values, or our history!
They will lie, cheat, steal, and assault to get their way! In fact, they already have!
They're being elected into official positions!
What the fuck can actually be done?!
Pink Mist Halo Awards (TM) free the mind of the offending commie and free the host from the parasitic bond. Start giving out these awards as necessary, rinse, repeat until commie infiltrators = 0.
What? They haven’t set up their fleet of social workers yet? This city is full of stupid people.
Fucking retards..,FAFO bitches
Can someone direct them to the social worker department?
That’s what they wanted.
Violence Interruptor.. HAHA
WHO YA GONNA CALL? NOOOBODY!
Who would have thought that, a poorly engineered Chinese bio-weapon that they accidentally released on themselves, which then failed to live up to expectations, could still be made into an effective and devastating attack against the USA by the Dems/Leftists/Liberals here!
More Snowgadishu every day.
Play stupid games...
honk
OP, fix your headline, "... after ATTACKING them".
Was meant to be defunding:(
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Violence interruptors
LOLOLOLOLOL
Lol, good - let the police not make arrests, that’s what Minneapolis wanted. If they want law and order once more, the military can come and impose it at the end of a machine gun. Fuck them, they get everything they deserve.
Leftists talk about "allowing" people to be police and firefighters. These dumb fucks actually think people would throw their lives away for the thrill.
"...after DEFUNDING them..."
Right?
I’m going to name my next gun “Violence Interrupter”. According to the leftists that’s what you use before it escalated to police involvement...
Many of these far left cities now even allow undocumented (read illegal) residents to run for local office and community boards... it is literally insane
Could you pedes write a title legibly? I had to reread this title so many times to understand.
I've noticed more and more news outlets turning off comments because the red pilling is an absolute avalanche.
MFW the Kurt Schlichter political fiction books I have read based on second civil war scenarios where the police are replaced by Marxist thugs comes true.
This author, who I highly recommend, is a prophet. Books are very entertaining and prescient.
Cause, meet Effect.
Fifty bucks says new officers are infiltrators
Violence interrupters? So like a police officer with even less training, less authority, and no guns?
Sounds like a great way to steal $1m and endanger your community!
I REALLY hope the police officer who is interacting with these asshats is smirking, and laughing behind a cough. "Oh no councilperson, I am DEFINITELY looking into that." haha "What? No, that wasn't a laugh, that was a cough. Go on... I'm listening.... what was it you were saying about non-funded police not enforcing laws again?"
If you remove or defund any type of law enforcement in a city, crime activity is most likely to increase. Also, it’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out. There could be a chance that vigilante groups, organized crime, outlaw MC’s and street gangs will become more active in the Twin Cities