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Assuming the left dont steal the election, does anyone think trump will have these DA's, mayors and whatnot arrested for dereliction of duty? Open and shut cases. Minus the corruptive elements in the system.
Yeah, but if Trump wins and we win the house and senate. Trump will be able to get a real DOJ. He could fire Barr and others and get Tom Fitton or someone to replace him.
I've watched the riots for many nights for many hours. It's not as easy as "just arrest them", even though it should be. Firstly, they are usually vastly outnumbered w/ hundreds of these freaks everywhere. They don't have the resources to handle most arrests. Secondly, the local prosecutor is on the side of the rioters! He drops the charges immediately and the criminal is back the very next night.
They want that. The whole idea was to force Trump's hand and then play the victim vs the fascist. He out smarted them and pretty much let them have their temper tantrum like a child trashing his own bedroom. The rioters are making new Trump supporters with every night of their bullshit.
Don't even arrest them at that point. Identify the scumbag, get a few like-minded cops, wait till scumbag's parents are at work and then leave a bloody mess in the basement. Follow the money trail that funded the scumbag, and repeat.
it's not 'being a cuck', it's following orders. the anarchist front is on the other side of the lines. the moral cowardice is safely ensconced high up and well behind the lines, as usual.
the orders may therefore be lousy orders, they may be unconstitutional and they may be completely foolish, but unfortunately they are still orders.
quitting is an option but remember, the officer on the street faces chaos and lawlessness and evil on every work day. shots fired, someone's dead, police called, twenty people around and no one saw nothing. children raped or beaten to death. whole families shot in home invasions.
the average policeman on the street 100% knows that the thin blue line is real and he is part of it, otherwise he wouldn't stay on the job at all.
quitting is for chiefs and staff who suffer a little political embarassment and bail out before their public-office aspirations take too much damage.
LOL I love how the “just following orders” argument gets longer and longer, with more and more bs to try and justify it, but it’s still the same shit sandwich.
It's not so easy to just resign. This is their career and they need to pay the bills. What these guys should be doing is trying to transfer out of the city into the suburbs or relocating.
and it's easy to say when it's not your career, your spouse and children, your house, your money. Some people may say screw it and quit... good for them. However, I can also see where someone will just go to work, try to avoid trouble and in the meantime try to find a way out. Someone who just follows unjust orders and finds no issue with it are the bigger problem. I think most of these officers are just hoping (maybe unrealistically) it all blows over and they can just get back to how things were. There's a reason why police unions across the country are supporting Trump in huge numbers.
I look forward to the setting the story about you putting your money where your mouth is and getting out there and taking the fight to the Leftist insurrectionists. No cop outs either, remember, freedom isn't always comfy. Get out there and act.
Been there. Done that. I live in one of the most blue areas of the country. Just openly speaking my opinion is taking the fight to them, they're rabid.
You're getting downvoted for having a different opinion. Great to see this place is just as much of a shithole echochamber as regular reddit.
These police have a sense of duty. If they weren't out there protecting the streets, the entire city would literally burn down. It would be like an actual purge. "Just arrest them lol." That is incredibly difficult when the police are outnumbered 10 to 1 and have to protect the city for the entire night. These people aren't superheros, they CAN DIE OUT THERE if they get swarmed.
Unless they can start using less than lethal tools to truly get the crowds under control, keeping the riots contained is the best they can do. And they're heroes for that.
Personally, I can handle a defunded police force better than 99.999% of people so if they just do crap like arresting people who defend themselves, go ahead and defund/abolish. I'd rather have cops who can follow the constitution, if they can't it wont be that hard to defund their asses nowadays.
Years ago, I was trying to decide between .45 and 9mm. I liked the fact that I could have a lot of rounds in a 9mm clip, but I kept seeing these news stories of criminals taking a half dozen 9mm rounds and not dying. .45 it was.
Nothing wrong with 9mm with the right round and shot placement, however at close range .45 is just nasty 🤷♂️ Check out some lehigh defense rounds if you reload or you can get them from underwood ammo preloaded
Police in Portland willfully let all of this shit happen for months and they still haven't done anything about the people who are causing trouble. The Portland police let those people run wild and burn down the city and then they complain like they were completely helpless to prevent it. Typical government employees, do nothing, collect massive salary and benefits and then act like it someone else's fault when the shit hits the fan. Worthless, do-nothing ingrates. The riots in other cities and the forest fires never would've happened if police in Minneapolis, Portland and Seattle had been willing to do their jobs instead being cowards who retreat in the face of perceived public opinion and limp wristed sissies like Ted Wheeler. That faggot Ted Wheeler bosses these cops around and they do exactly what he says like total bitches. If they don't like the results of their willful compliance with faggots its nobody's fault but their own.
The police would arrest people and then have the DA set them free to riot the next day. The mayor would order them to stand down and they'd have their ass in prison if they violated some asswipes rights, never mind what was done to the cops.
They're trying their best not to let this get worse, the problem is that the people at the top need to come down for them to be able to do their jobs.
Except in many instances the problem isn't the law, it's the uneven application of the law. Changing laws won't matter if no one is prosecuted. So vote for a new DA right?!?! You don't know what you get until after you vote for it. Politicians don't have their MPG plastered on the window before purchase. When it comes to elected officials, YMMV. They can run on one message and do a 180 once in office and there isn't much you can do about it. If the 2A isn't for killing corrupt and/or treasonous officials then what is it for? I think we're well past the line the founding fathers would have drawn in the sand.
If someone holds a picture of your wife and kids in front of you like that, threatening them, you take your baton, or whatever you’re armed with, and you cave their fucking skull in. Your brothers and sisters in law enforcement can then make a choice, do they then arrest you after witnessing that, knowing it will be them next, or do they stand with you, prepared to go as far as dragging Mayor Wheeler out of his safe little enclave, and putting him down for his role in this. Police have the weapons, they have the numbers, they have federal support, if needed - the only thing they lack is the spine.
A couple hundred cops out there, I doubt they have info on all of them, much less this random encounter matching up. These rioters are bad enough destroying property, beating and killing people, without needing these kind of fake stories.
Uh what. Cant do anything about it? That's illegal. Someone shouting "I hope your family gets raped and murdered" is awful but not a crime. Holding a photo of them and saying you're going to rape and murder them would constitute criminal nexus.
That's why I'm genuinely confused as to why the Cops are doing this. Do they not know that they are alienating the only people who don't hate them outright?
Let them. Cops don't actually defend our property. They pull security for Antifa. When no one can come if I call 911 it means I can finally defend myself without being arrested for having the temerity to not allow Commies to kill me and my family.
Please tell me they don't actually do that. I'd rather not think of how amoral these people are to go so far as to find pictures of their families and threaten them
I think there is a lot of people on our side playing nice till after the election for a host of reasons. Be it not wanting to give ammo to the msm to use against Trump (Oh look! Trump supporters are violent rayciss!) or letting people see the unfiltered left in all its insane glory destroying everything in its path, to better visualize a clear choice to the public. I have a feeling after the 4th win, or win yuge, the gloves come off our side bigly.
The peaceful part of the protests still manage to break dozens of laws. Such a direct threat needs to have an arrest. Of course a liberal DA just releases them his later anyways.
Imagine being such a fucking faggot that you care more about your paycheck and following orders than killing a communist who threatens to rape and murder your family.
We must document and identify as many as we can. Start rounding them up in groups. When fuckers start to disappear the shit will stop. As the saying goes, fight fire with fire.
A few years ago I interacted with someone who turned out to be an AntiFa member over a legal issue (he was asking for criminal law advice). He didn't like my explanation of the law, so he and his friends sent messages to my employer (I was in-house) telling the executives that they knew where their children went to school and were going to kill them if they didn't fire me.
If they showed real photos of my kids in the exsct manner weve been seeing and this report states, i would end all those peoples lives right then and there. John Wick it.
Governments exist by consent of the governed. When a government has failed so utterly as the Portland city government has, they are no longer legitimate. When citizens must band together to protect themselves, the government has failed. When laws are flouted and cops are directly to ignore lawbreaking, the government has failed.
There is no virtue in leaving a failed government in place. “I was following orders” is no defense when the orders are illegitimate or come from an illegitimate government.
The proper action from the cops is to arrest the DAs, the city council, and the mayor.
Arrest the mayor and DA hold them with patriot act charges for assisting terroritst yeah I know sorry that law only applies to us peons but we can dream right. But laws like this we need to sit down and have a serious talk about if it cant be used to stop whas going on ... the law needs complete removal if NSA cant report what the corrupt politicians do remove all spying its simple really they didn't stop 9-11 yet they had evidence so why did they get more power not to do shit...
Well arrest them and end the riots then or release your body cam video of this happening so that there is general public out cry or killing them in self defense. But do not arrest a fucking home owner who is defending themselves from a mob that is swarming their house.
Dunno, honestly that seems like an exaggeration. Watch a lot of these protests and not once have I seen them holding up pictures. Giving anqueefa too much credit imo
It's not the brass as much as it is the mayor and DA.
You can't arrest the top cop in a city/state. No authorization. They're the ones in charge of how arrests are processed.
https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-02-2015/6ixpKc.gif
Not time for that yet.
Yeah, November 4th
If not now, then fucking WHEN
When it's clear Trump isn't walking away with a supermajority.
Assuming the left dont steal the election, does anyone think trump will have these DA's, mayors and whatnot arrested for dereliction of duty? Open and shut cases. Minus the corruptive elements in the system.
He should, but even his DOJ has similar issues with follow-through.
Yeah, but if Trump wins and we win the house and senate. Trump will be able to get a real DOJ. He could fire Barr and others and get Tom Fitton or someone to replace him.
OMG i can only get so stiff.
NO. We need somebody more ... Effective.
Citizen's arrest.
I fart out my vagina
Oh Barry. You always get a chuckle out of me.
Did you ask Big Mike for permission?
Since the mayor in Portland is also the Chief of Police, then yes it's the brass as well.
*Police Commissioner
Yea oops. I live here as well 😜
Governor
Soros buying district attorneys for this very reason.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/30/george-soros-buying-district-attorney-near-you/
I've watched the riots for many nights for many hours. It's not as easy as "just arrest them", even though it should be. Firstly, they are usually vastly outnumbered w/ hundreds of these freaks everywhere. They don't have the resources to handle most arrests. Secondly, the local prosecutor is on the side of the rioters! He drops the charges immediately and the criminal is back the very next night.
It's a shitshow.
hattip
You don't get a pension if you quit before X number of years (whatever it says in their contract).
And job in the middle of a pandemic when stuff is boarded up or burned everywhere else in town.
Can they arrest the local prosecutor?
They want that. The whole idea was to force Trump's hand and then play the victim vs the fascist. He out smarted them and pretty much let them have their temper tantrum like a child trashing his own bedroom. The rioters are making new Trump supporters with every night of their bullshit.
^This guy gets it! That's why Trump said his supporters shouldn't confront "protestors". He knows what the Left is planning!
Don't even arrest them at that point. Identify the scumbag, get a few like-minded cops, wait till scumbag's parents are at work and then leave a bloody mess in the basement. Follow the money trail that funded the scumbag, and repeat.
This
I wonder if blue line Washingtonians could create an honor guard for the families of on-duty cops. Take shifts, patrol the area, something.
Would be easily infiltrated and probably cause more danger.
Limit it to military and PD veterans with two recommendations from current PD?
it's not 'being a cuck', it's following orders. the anarchist front is on the other side of the lines. the moral cowardice is safely ensconced high up and well behind the lines, as usual.
the orders may therefore be lousy orders, they may be unconstitutional and they may be completely foolish, but unfortunately they are still orders.
quitting is an option but remember, the officer on the street faces chaos and lawlessness and evil on every work day. shots fired, someone's dead, police called, twenty people around and no one saw nothing. children raped or beaten to death. whole families shot in home invasions.
the average policeman on the street 100% knows that the thin blue line is real and he is part of it, otherwise he wouldn't stay on the job at all.
quitting is for chiefs and staff who suffer a little political embarassment and bail out before their public-office aspirations take too much damage.
LOL I love how the “just following orders” argument gets longer and longer, with more and more bs to try and justify it, but it’s still the same shit sandwich.
Stand among the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if following orders mattered. Their silence is your answer.
where on earth am I going to find a trillion dead souls?
And then they arrest home owners for protecting their own property instead.....
Cops are civilians too. Remember that. They have their own Allegiance.
It's not so easy to just resign. This is their career and they need to pay the bills. What these guys should be doing is trying to transfer out of the city into the suburbs or relocating.
It is. Freedom isn't always comfy.
and it's easy to say when it's not your career, your spouse and children, your house, your money. Some people may say screw it and quit... good for them. However, I can also see where someone will just go to work, try to avoid trouble and in the meantime try to find a way out. Someone who just follows unjust orders and finds no issue with it are the bigger problem. I think most of these officers are just hoping (maybe unrealistically) it all blows over and they can just get back to how things were. There's a reason why police unions across the country are supporting Trump in huge numbers.
I risked my job, police can too.
Bingo.
I look forward to the setting the story about you putting your money where your mouth is and getting out there and taking the fight to the Leftist insurrectionists. No cop outs either, remember, freedom isn't always comfy. Get out there and act.
Been there. Done that. I live in one of the most blue areas of the country. Just openly speaking my opinion is taking the fight to them, they're rabid.
You're getting downvoted for having a different opinion. Great to see this place is just as much of a shithole echochamber as regular reddit.
These police have a sense of duty. If they weren't out there protecting the streets, the entire city would literally burn down. It would be like an actual purge. "Just arrest them lol." That is incredibly difficult when the police are outnumbered 10 to 1 and have to protect the city for the entire night. These people aren't superheros, they CAN DIE OUT THERE if they get swarmed.
Unless they can start using less than lethal tools to truly get the crowds under control, keeping the riots contained is the best they can do. And they're heroes for that.
You must have slipped into this reality from your alternate universe
Personally, I can handle a defunded police force better than 99.999% of people so if they just do crap like arresting people who defend themselves, go ahead and defund/abolish. I'd rather have cops who can follow the constitution, if they can't it wont be that hard to defund their asses nowadays.
That’s exactly what it is. They are being aided and instructed.
Seriously. Just head butt the fag and when he cries just shrug
No shit. Not a cop, but other than TD, I do not use social media. It's for idiots.
Imagine being so credulous as to believe everything on the internet.
Threatening my family with rape is a fast way for you to free your mind and become acquainted with the lords caliber .45
Years ago, I was trying to decide between .45 and 9mm. I liked the fact that I could have a lot of rounds in a 9mm clip, but I kept seeing these news stories of criminals taking a half dozen 9mm rounds and not dying. .45 it was.
Nothing wrong with 9mm with the right round and shot placement, however at close range .45 is just nasty 🤷♂️ Check out some lehigh defense rounds if you reload or you can get them from underwood ammo preloaded
The prime reason for my decision. I wanted nasty. The nastier the better.
357 Sig is arguably the best pistol round on the planet but gets very little love. Still high capacity and has insane ballistics.
Jack Wilson took out a church shooter with a .357 Spicy Boi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNK4YDUeU4o
You just can't shoot.
Even the Penn knife guy went down with 2 shots.
Can we get bodycam footage?
Asking the real questions. You’re hired. We need journalists.
FOIA it
Police in Portland willfully let all of this shit happen for months and they still haven't done anything about the people who are causing trouble. The Portland police let those people run wild and burn down the city and then they complain like they were completely helpless to prevent it. Typical government employees, do nothing, collect massive salary and benefits and then act like it someone else's fault when the shit hits the fan. Worthless, do-nothing ingrates. The riots in other cities and the forest fires never would've happened if police in Minneapolis, Portland and Seattle had been willing to do their jobs instead being cowards who retreat in the face of perceived public opinion and limp wristed sissies like Ted Wheeler. That faggot Ted Wheeler bosses these cops around and they do exactly what he says like total bitches. If they don't like the results of their willful compliance with faggots its nobody's fault but their own.
The police would arrest people and then have the DA set them free to riot the next day. The mayor would order them to stand down and they'd have their ass in prison if they violated some asswipes rights, never mind what was done to the cops.
They're trying their best not to let this get worse, the problem is that the people at the top need to come down for them to be able to do their jobs.
Too bad they're slaves and forced to be police officers and can't quit.
Except in many instances the problem isn't the law, it's the uneven application of the law. Changing laws won't matter if no one is prosecuted. So vote for a new DA right?!?! You don't know what you get until after you vote for it. Politicians don't have their MPG plastered on the window before purchase. When it comes to elected officials, YMMV. They can run on one message and do a 180 once in office and there isn't much you can do about it. If the 2A isn't for killing corrupt and/or treasonous officials then what is it for? I think we're well past the line the founding fathers would have drawn in the sand.
Sometimes, voting doesn't matter.
They need to record this
If someone holds a picture of your wife and kids in front of you like that, threatening them, you take your baton, or whatever you’re armed with, and you cave their fucking skull in. Your brothers and sisters in law enforcement can then make a choice, do they then arrest you after witnessing that, knowing it will be them next, or do they stand with you, prepared to go as far as dragging Mayor Wheeler out of his safe little enclave, and putting him down for his role in this. Police have the weapons, they have the numbers, they have federal support, if needed - the only thing they lack is the spine.
Nah. You arrest them all nice in front of cameras, offer them coffee, and pet them.
And bring them to a jail cell with no cameras.
The cops should start going after the camera phone holders as well.
Not that I doubt the possibility of this but it’s just a story unless there’s some kind of verification.
A couple hundred cops out there, I doubt they have info on all of them, much less this random encounter matching up. These rioters are bad enough destroying property, beating and killing people, without needing these kind of fake stories.
Uh what. Cant do anything about it? That's illegal. Someone shouting "I hope your family gets raped and murdered" is awful but not a crime. Holding a photo of them and saying you're going to rape and murder them would constitute criminal nexus.
The communists come for the families of those who oppose them. It's happened before.
So why go after cops then? Because they don't oppose Antifa at all.
You may have a point in practice, but I could easily believe many in Antifa consciously believe the police are their enemy.
Oh I know.
That's why I'm genuinely confused as to why the Cops are doing this. Do they not know that they are alienating the only people who don't hate them outright?
-Literally communist intellectuals.
This is why they're trying to abolish the cops and burn down the courthouses. Because they know that law and justice holds our society together.
Let them. Cops don't actually defend our property. They pull security for Antifa. When no one can come if I call 911 it means I can finally defend myself without being arrested for having the temerity to not allow Commies to kill me and my family.
Please tell me they don't actually do that. I'd rather not think of how amoral these people are to go so far as to find pictures of their families and threaten them
That cop needs to teach ANTIFA the First Law of Thermodynamics.
Grow a set then instead of slurping their taints.
How is the officer not able to snag and clip at that point? That's a direct threat to the officer.
November 4th will be a good day.
At this point, I would not mind at all if Trump simply declared an insurrection, live ammo, shoot to kill orders.
I think the police will be getting a lot of help after November 4th.
I think there is a lot of people on our side playing nice till after the election for a host of reasons. Be it not wanting to give ammo to the msm to use against Trump (Oh look! Trump supporters are violent rayciss!) or letting people see the unfiltered left in all its insane glory destroying everything in its path, to better visualize a clear choice to the public. I have a feeling after the 4th win, or win yuge, the gloves come off our side bigly.
We should be doing more for them. Find their mothers.
The peaceful part of the protests still manage to break dozens of laws. Such a direct threat needs to have an arrest. Of course a liberal DA just releases them his later anyways.
If this is true, you care more about your job than your own family. I hope its worth the pension pussy.
Funny how police can't do shit againt these rioters, but are more than willing to enforce bullshit draconian laws onto regular citizens.
Is like they want to be hated by both fucking sides.
Imagine being such a fucking faggot that you care more about your paycheck and following orders than killing a communist who threatens to rape and murder your family.
Many police in the cities are liberals.
Please release the body cam footage of this or similar things happening.
We must document and identify as many as we can. Start rounding them up in groups. When fuckers start to disappear the shit will stop. As the saying goes, fight fire with fire.
I said this before, I saw a booklet about them targeting officer's family while they work. :/
Source/link?
Sounds like terrorism to me.
I experienced this personally.
A few years ago I interacted with someone who turned out to be an AntiFa member over a legal issue (he was asking for criminal law advice). He didn't like my explanation of the law, so he and his friends sent messages to my employer (I was in-house) telling the executives that they knew where their children went to school and were going to kill them if they didn't fire me.
So they dox cops and threaten them? Jesus
if police cannot beat the piss out of them in that situation there is no point to cops.
If they showed real photos of my kids in the exsct manner weve been seeing and this report states, i would end all those peoples lives right then and there. John Wick it.
I’d becomes a cop just so I could disappear these fucks. It wouldn’t be hard to visit them in the night.
kek
Governments exist by consent of the governed. When a government has failed so utterly as the Portland city government has, they are no longer legitimate. When citizens must band together to protect themselves, the government has failed. When laws are flouted and cops are directly to ignore lawbreaking, the government has failed.
There is no virtue in leaving a failed government in place. “I was following orders” is no defense when the orders are illegitimate or come from an illegitimate government.
The proper action from the cops is to arrest the DAs, the city council, and the mayor.
Step aside, officers, and we'll gladly take it from here...
These officers need to get pictures of these people, and let /pol do its thing.
If you were a cop, I'd have to assume you would force your wife and kids to get with the self defense program.
Arrest the mayor and DA hold them with patriot act charges for assisting terroritst yeah I know sorry that law only applies to us peons but we can dream right. But laws like this we need to sit down and have a serious talk about if it cant be used to stop whas going on ... the law needs complete removal if NSA cant report what the corrupt politicians do remove all spying its simple really they didn't stop 9-11 yet they had evidence so why did they get more power not to do shit...
Well arrest them and end the riots then or release your body cam video of this happening so that there is general public out cry or killing them in self defense. But do not arrest a fucking home owner who is defending themselves from a mob that is swarming their house.
Dunno, honestly that seems like an exaggeration. Watch a lot of these protests and not once have I seen them holding up pictures. Giving anqueefa too much credit imo
The attempt to censor the name was rather poorly done FYI. I can read the name.
Fucking sickening.
Cops should go on strike already. Everyday you show up for work you’re making everything worse. Let the people deal with this mob please