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SimpleMan 31 points ago +37 / -6

There is only one thing missing in today's education system: they dont teach respect.

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xBigCoffinHunter 18 points ago +21 / -3

You know how I learned respect at school? Our principal had a paddle with holes drilled in it. I never got the paddle but after getting in a fight at school I heard the whistle of the paddle as he swung it and smacked a filing cabinet.

That shit would never fly today and it’s kinda mind blowing that it flew then, but it did and it worked.

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xBigCoffinHunter 7 points ago +7 / -0

No shit. The school paddle wasn’t really the big concern. It’s was what happened when you got home.

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VetforTrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

Got mybass whipped deservedly more than I like to admit by teachers. Never went home and told except one time when I was innocent. Basically my dad told the teacher, ok cool, you gotta give him a pass on the next one though. I prepaid for the next thing and they realized I was gonna collect. So they busted me for something I probably would not have took a beating for and gave me the pass. I got ripped off because the whipping I got should have been for a fight or breaking a window or something real.

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SimpleMan 9 points ago +9 / -0

Know what you mean. Worked for me and many other people I know.

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2016TrumpMAGA 7 points ago +7 / -0

At our grade school it was a leather strap. We lived in fear of "the strap."

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publ1us 3 points ago +3 / -0

Paddlin' Peggy Hill has entered the chat

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IncredibleMrE1 12 points ago +12 / -0

That should be taught at home, starting long before a child is school-age.

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Marshall 4 points ago +4 / -0

My opinion is that a swat to the diaper of a toddler, which doesn't hurt as much as it scares, is the appropriate time to teach physical discipline. It sets up all future discipline when it is an alternative to outright rebellion. Go stand in a corner only works when the child will obey because he/she knows the alternative.

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Frog_Anne 3 points ago +4 / -1

Yes! That stupid push to claim any kind of spanking is akin to child abuse is why there are so many out of control brats now. Spanking is not the same as beating a child because a parent lost their temper. It just means there are rules for behavior, and consequences for breaking those rules.

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sun_wolf 3 points ago +3 / -0

It’s also a bunch of childless academic fruitcakes swooping in and saying, “Yeah, that thing parents have been doing with their children instinctively for thousands of years, across different cultures, different tribes, different lands? Yeah, that is all WAY OFF. Marcus over here did a study and ackhtually, parents should make their kids stand in the corner instead. Yeah, totally. So everyone ignore thousands of years of successful, evolved human instinct that suggests spanking works and, yeah, just listen to Marcus instead. Yes technically he IS a single unmarried homosexual without children but he did a STUDY, so don’t be a bigot, bigot.”

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EtTuRINO 2 points ago +2 / -0

The best is when stupid parents were grounding their kids in their rooms. You know, where their computer, phone, gaming consoles, etc. are.

You may have barred them from doing something in-person like going to a party but they can still have fun being grounded. Wow, what a punishment!

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SimpleMan 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's the ideal. We know there are many homes where it doesn't happen. School and other community institutions is the next best place to learn.

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tombombadil 8 points ago +8 / -0

I’ve been tutoring a ton during the lockdowns and it is pretty shocking how little the parents care about their kids education. None of them come by after the session is over and check on how things went. 90% of the time they just send me an electronic payment and I don’t even see them. I’m glad they trust me, but it’s kind of crucial that they know what their kid is learning.

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SimpleMan 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's the ideal. We know there are many homes where it doesn't happen. School and other community institutions is the next best place to learn.

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Rommsey 3 points ago +3 / -0

Bingo! I've met a lot of people since moving here in 2013 who deflect so much, if even right-leaning and conservatives, they all want to blame schools/teachers. The school system is only but a fraction like you say.

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Rommsey 5 points ago +5 / -0

Parents don't teach respect.

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SimpleMan 5 points ago +5 / -0

Mine did.

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Rommsey 2 points ago +2 / -0

Indeed, for plenty there are but we're the exception. Half the country thinks it's fine to disrespect all realms of authority.

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snuggs316 4 points ago +4 / -0

that should start at home, long before a child enters first grade (or kindergarten).

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IllusionOfChoice 19 points ago +20 / -1

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Marshall 6 points ago +7 / -1

END PUBLIC "EDUCATION"/INDOCTRINATION. Replace with Private Schools with NO STRINGS ATTACHED. Then they will have to perform to the expectations of parents.

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Two_Scoops__ 2 points ago +2 / -0

I like the idea that the money follows the child, not the school but how does that actually work? Right now property taxes go to the schools

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Julius_Severus 10 points ago +10 / -0

People who hate America should not be in charge of America

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mathteach314159 8 points ago +8 / -0

Just give our youth the truth, no spin, no bias. Just go back to teaching history through the lens of global standards of the particular time in history and it shows the US is nearly always ahead of that curve and still is.

Slavery? Most of the world was using slavery still when we abolished it. A lot of the world STILL uses slavery.

Womens rights, minority rights, disabled rights, homosexual rights, all have the same story! Its this whole idea that somehow we are not meeting a higher standard that is such bullshit, because we are! The sheeple have been led to believe America is some bad place when the reality is it offers the most freedom and opportunity to anyone who wants to put in the work and take it through the proper and fair channels that are in place. These practices are in place to make sure this freedom and opportunity are here to stay for eternity to make the world a better place. The mere idea of America has done more for the global community than any other idea in the history of the world, CHANGE MY MIND, I DARE YA!!

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Frog_Anne 3 points ago +4 / -1

If they did teach the whole truth, then it would be patriotic education. But they don't, they cherry-pick facts, or outright twist things around to make America look bad at every opportunity. That's why there are kids that don't think this is a great country, or think socialism/communism is a better system.

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MCDuquesne 8 points ago +8 / -0
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BadManOrange 7 points ago +8 / -1

What does Patriotic education even mean though? If it's just learning about colonial and revolutionary times then that's not going to work. Sure, some people love talking about the founding fathers, but very few do enough foster patriotism in today's America. Being part of the Trump movement is the most patriotic I've ever felt. Only thing that's come close was post 9/11 which GWB killed within a few years and Obama put the nail in the coffin.

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tombombadil 6 points ago +6 / -0

It means teaching kids to love their country and not hate it and see the constitution as an obstacle. It’s the opposite of what is generally being taught now. This might be the most crucial step in the long term survival of what we call the United States of America. This really is YUGE.

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flashersenpai 2 points ago +2 / -0

How about understanding what the constitution is for one? Or the concept of natural rights?

It's partly philosophy to explain WHY the US system and it's foundational beliefs are good. Understanding where that came from and how the US strove to live up to this philosophy through history.

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BadManOrange 2 points ago +2 / -0

Those things are important for us to have a functional citizenry (and sad to say governing body), but I don't know that they particularly impart national pride upon the average person. Our history certainly is a point of pride. Our culture should be... short of the nonsense pushed by the MSM. Things like the American dream, the land of opportunity, things like that give people pride in America. Our military might gives people pride. Our ability to innovate and create gives people pride. That's why people who love Trump feel pride in America because he promises and delivers on things that give people a chance to live that dream and to actually realize those opportunities, as well as making America a strong nation that's a leader on the world stage.

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spaceforceltc 5 points ago +5 / -0

When I first learned Operating Systems for my Computer Science degree, I mentally made my own comparison that the OS is the government of the computer. It allocates resources, provides infrastructure for user programs to access these resources, and decides how programs are run.

Old school operating systems like MS-DOS were basically anarchy. They allowed user programs to take over the entire computer.

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Heavens2MAGAtroid 3 points ago +3 / -0

Christianity is the OS.

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JesusisKing 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ha exactly we have had a communist OS installed for the last 20 years

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MythArcana 2 points ago +2 / -0

That rules out Google and Microsoft then.

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Bramble 2 points ago +2 / -0

Obviously? Do you try to fix something you dislike? Do you try to improve something you hate? No.

No, you either ignore, or actively try to destroy something you dislike. You probably don't care if you have anything to replace it with either.

So why should anybody listen to someone who hates America? If you dislike it here, you certainly won't fight for it, try to fix it's faults or try to make it better. You'll try to burn it down without regard for the destruction or who it harms.

This is why you don't loan your neighbors valuable things. This is why you don't trust a democrat.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

True. It is a virtuous ideology

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Marshall 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just redirect the funding from whatever source to the children. Then let schools compete for students. It's just applying competition to schools like any other business.

If that had been the plan when my 5 kids were in school, then the fair market value of teaching at home (which saved the state half a million dollars) would have eased the burden considerably. It would change the calculus when making the financial decision on which choice to make.

Give the parents $10,000 per child and the responsibility to educate their children. At that rate, most taxpayers would get tax relief.

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4Liberty 2 points ago +2 / -0

No, this is bullshit. North Korea and China have strong “patriotic education” programs too. All it does is indoctrinate you to trust government. A foundation of the right morals and principles are what’s important.

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billbuckner 2 points ago +2 / -0

My wife hated hated for me to use physical force on our kids. I was raised when schools could paddle you and I got the belt from my dad... rarely. So I had issue with my wife. My solution was to make my boys do pushups or stay in the front leaning rest. Or run wind sprints. If they would not do it they were put in their room and shit taken away. They never got in trouble at school or the law.

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JayMW 2 points ago +2 / -0

You don't even have to teach patriotism. Just stop teaching the anti-American garbage they're doing now and start teaching real American history. Kids will come to the conclusion that America is a pretty great place.

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pedeypete 1 point ago +1 / -0

Too bad liberals are like Microsoft Edge.

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tombombadil 2 points ago +2 / -0

How often do you listen to him? He’s saying that this is the key to fixing everything. Not necessarily that it will be easy or possible to implement. And he’s 100% right. Fixing the education system to not teach kids to hate America is the #1 way to turn the culture from the Marxist path that it was headed down.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

He's more based than you give him credit for, and the proof is your reaction. If you're so familiar with Adams, maybe your second sentence shouldn't be mind reading "loser think."

"Sounds like he's saying" is a clear tell you're replacing his opinion with your imagined opinion then attacking it.

(Also, he's constantly talking about how teacher unions need to go and is pro school choice.)

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sun_wolf 1 point ago +1 / -0

Adams is sometimes frustrating but he also thinks outside the box and he is a good soft red-pill for normies. I think he is more based than he lets on, but keeps that somewhat suppressed to not scare people off. He also sometimes finds ways to address edgy topics without them seeming edgy. A few weeks ago he totally dismantled everything BLM has done wrong from a persuasion perspective that really exposed their dishonest tactics and messaging. He has also done a lot to undo the Fine People Hoax.

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Mostprobably 1 point ago +1 / -0

I get what he’s saying, but he loves himself and his intellect too much for me to care about him.