Caesar had also previously bought elections, both for himself and on behalf of others.
One of the people he bought the Tribune of the Plebs seat for promised free grain to all Romans. Once elected they actually carried it out. Rome was totally out of grain in less than 1 year.
Buying elections and tribunes was just part of Roman politics, though. Even Gaius Marius bought a tribune of the plebs for the power of the tribunal veto.
Promise everything to everybody, remind voters about the sex scandals of your opponents, blend in like a chameleon, put on a good show for the masses, constantly surrounding yourself with rabid supporters... sounds like familiar election campaign advice right? Well, Quintus Cicero wrote it all down in a letter to his brother Marcus 2000 years ago while he was running for office.
The president would literally hold a 4 hour tv show every weekend where he would accept calls from his citizens. He would blindly do whatever they wanted and televize it.
Meh, Caesar crushed the corrupt Senate after they tried to off his lawfully present Tribune, he did what needed to be done in order to drain the swamp.
All they think about is power, they don't even hide it, they say rest in power instead of rest in peace. Negotiations and all that boring stuff is too hard for these animals.
It's also literally what FDR threatened to do to the Supreme Court if they didn't approve his New Deal, and it's likely what oBUMmer did to get the Supreme Court to authorize Obamacare in the first place.
The bastards don't seem to even know any other strategies...
It probably can't be. The constitution says judges, "shall hold their offices during good behaviour" which means they keep their job for as long as they like - not for a set period of years - but that you can impeach them for bad behavior.
If you tried to shrink the court from 13 to 7, and presumably you intended to fire the latest 6 judges who had been appointed by a democrat, you would be denying those 6 the right to "hold their office during good beahavior" - violating the constitution.
Frankly, it doesn't much matter at this point. The Left is in open rebellion. They openly and publicly call for the overthrow of the United States. The next time they get into power, the composition of the supreme court hardly even matters.
I know that times were very hard during that era, and I cannot fathom living during that time, but FDR totally thought he was America's king and savior. So much government expansion. So "progressive". And we are still fighting it.
It really is true. Go outside and talk to people. Reality doesn't measure up to what we see online. Except maybe in the deep inner cities where you really can find radical marxists and shit.
I’m trying to get more excited about trigger pressing w red light rounds - but it feels lame. Kinda like Lazer Tag but not as fun & definitely silly w no recoil
You'd have to amend the law—and they need a normal majority in the Senate to do that.
It takes less than a Constitutional Amendment, since Supreme Court numbers aren't outlined in the Constitution, only powers, but only the partisan powermongers want court packing.
They pass a law to expand the court, then they pass a new law saying you can't expand it. Total clown policy, but these dipshits seriously believe this isn't what fascism actually looks like.
Maine is tricky. A mostly blue state with an R senator who's pretty popular because she's swingy. No one could have beat her in the primary, no one solid MAGA anyway.
Then I am not sure she can vote on a possible nominee, given that she is running for reelection in a mostly blue state. That would probably mean losing her Senate seat. And as insufferable as she is, she is helping Republicans hold the majority in the Senate. If she loses her seat, the Dems are that much closer to regaining the majority.
To the guy arguing that 11seats will "just make it 6-5"....making it 15 seats will just make it 8-7, or making it 21 seats will make it 11-10. That's the fucking purpose of having an odd number, so you always avoid gridlock. Leftist idiot
I hear what you’re saying, but their point (made poorly) is that isn’t enough of a buffer given that plus existing 2, Trump will have added 3 (for total 5). 15 means 5 conservative 10 liberal. That’s the sticking it to us.
In this delusion it also never backfires, because under one party rule, the right will all be in gulags and unable to ever gain power again.
I'm worried about the traitors in the senate, and the risk that Trump is going to go for a shithead like ACB, since apparently we have a lot of retards who will literally sabotage every single issue, from immigration to guns to communist insurrection, over stupid fucking abortion.
I don't care about it too much, either. I think it's amoral and literal murder, but I agree that we're probably better off if most of the people getting abortions don't have more kids.
She can be replaced. But she won't. The Democrats will pull some sort of scandal or something to hold it off. When they reference adding more seats, they talk about changing the number of justices so that one president could add multiple judges at once to counteract all the judges added by Trump and thus give them power over the supreme court. That is a cheating scam method and is only ever used in an effort to counteract the other parties judges and there is not actual logic to do it.
She can and SHE WILL BE REPLACED BEFORE THE ELECTION. It's all part of the plan. President Trump and the Senate republicans have been planning for this for a while.. They were just waiting for it to happen. The dems don't have as much control as they used to. Mtich is going push this one through no matter what.
Democrats don’t need to do anything. This is the type of event that the swamp will poke their heads out for. Romney, Murkowski, and Collins, that’s all they need.
How many of those losers commenting are from foreign countries? I've already seen friends of mine who aren't American citizens get all sad about her passing.
It's literally what Julius Caesar did with the Roman Senate. And oh wow, then suddenly he became dictator for life. Hmm. How did that happen.
Anti(democratic)fa(scists)?
Pure marketing. Sometimes you have to lie to sell crap.
Or every time
Then all Nazis are Socialists, because "ItS iN tHe NaAaAaMe."
That's literally their argument. Amazing dumb, but somehow it works for them.
Caesar had also previously bought elections, both for himself and on behalf of others.
One of the people he bought the Tribune of the Plebs seat for promised free grain to all Romans. Once elected they actually carried it out. Rome was totally out of grain in less than 1 year.
Buying elections and tribunes was just part of Roman politics, though. Even Gaius Marius bought a tribune of the plebs for the power of the tribunal veto.
at least the Romans looked down on actors ...they got that right
Yes, the Republic's last 80-100 years was mired with corruption.
Also Marius and Caesar were of the same political stripe.
Promise everything to everybody, remind voters about the sex scandals of your opponents, blend in like a chameleon, put on a good show for the masses, constantly surrounding yourself with rabid supporters... sounds like familiar election campaign advice right? Well, Quintus Cicero wrote it all down in a letter to his brother Marcus 2000 years ago while he was running for office.
Just like Venezuela.
The president would literally hold a 4 hour tv show every weekend where he would accept calls from his citizens. He would blindly do whatever they wanted and televize it.
Give this lady chickens
Fix the price of beef! We're starving
Etc
Meh, Caesar crushed the corrupt Senate after they tried to off his lawfully present Tribune, he did what needed to be done in order to drain the swamp.
FDR tried to do it to but was shot down.
how did that end up?
The republic ended.
civil war and Octavian killed the traitors
I disagree, that’s just what the Deep State history books have told us.
Remember, our country is based of Rome with August as executive.
For the most part, things were still great as the senate made most the laws and Augustus took care of the empire.
When Caesar did his thing, Rome was so corrupt that the damn calander didn’t even work right.
Two party with no checks and balances always leads to war.
The problem was later, when emperors started Consolidating power
These dumb fucks wouldn't know what a fascist is if it crawled up their asses.
I am pretty sure that's what they fantasize about, fascists getting all up in their asses.
It is but they still don't know they are getting butt fucked by fascist.
All they think about is power, they don't even hide it, they say rest in power instead of rest in peace. Negotiations and all that boring stuff is too hard for these animals.
Oh come on now Soros is a regular in the lower intestines
It's not a lack of insight, they're just incredibly power hungry and will stop at nothing.
They're totalitarians through and through.
Yeah, came to ask, aren't they the ones always accusing Trump of being a fascist who rigs the system so he can never lose again?
It's also literally what FDR threatened to do to the Supreme Court if they didn't approve his New Deal, and it's likely what oBUMmer did to get the Supreme Court to authorize Obamacare in the first place.
The bastards don't seem to even know any other strategies...
I’m adding two seats. MATCH ME!
Minimum 350 Million seats. EVERYONE BECOMES A SCOTUS JUSTICE!
Why won't you let illegals on the bench? Fascist much?
In Joe Biden's America, every illegal gets free healthcare AND a seat on the Supreme Court of the United States!
All world xitxens should be Supreme Court justices bigot!
Equality
kek
EVERY SCOTUS DECISION IS A POPULAR VOTE!!1
MuH pUrE dEmOcRaCy
Jacob Blake for SCOTUS.
He cant jack off, atleast he can spend his days writing judgements.
I think you have to be able to read to be on SCOTUS.
He needs to be able to do something with his life and he can still use his hands.
Nothing. It has more to do with morals, integrity, not setting a president. Also it can be shrunk.
And we all know they would happily do it if they had control
precedent, pede. ;)
It probably can't be. The constitution says judges, "shall hold their offices during good behaviour" which means they keep their job for as long as they like - not for a set period of years - but that you can impeach them for bad behavior.
If you tried to shrink the court from 13 to 7, and presumably you intended to fire the latest 6 judges who had been appointed by a democrat, you would be denying those 6 the right to "hold their office during good beahavior" - violating the constitution.
Frankly, it doesn't much matter at this point. The Left is in open rebellion. They openly and publicly call for the overthrow of the United States. The next time they get into power, the composition of the supreme court hardly even matters.
I know that times were very hard during that era, and I cannot fathom living during that time, but FDR totally thought he was America's king and savior. So much government expansion. So "progressive". And we are still fighting it.
Second amendment.
Biut that is a good point. We definitely need to nerf the supreme court
Fuck it, everyone on earth is now a SCJ. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be...
I'll go 20.
Ah, going back to the FDR court packing strategy, I see.
Democrats: Doing unconstitutional things then, now, and forever.
If they did things or voted on things or just believed in the country according to what is the most Constitutional, they wouldn't be Democrats.
Reading that makes me want to clean my guns.
Don't worry, half of them are Chinese/CTR bots and Eurocucks.
It really is true. Go outside and talk to people. Reality doesn't measure up to what we see online. Except maybe in the deep inner cities where you really can find radical marxists and shit.
My guns are clean. What to do, what to do.
I’m trying to get more excited about trigger pressing w red light rounds - but it feels lame. Kinda like Lazer Tag but not as fun & definitely silly w no recoil
But hey lotsa home time right now (vs range)
I can't take my guns apart and clean them. They can't get any cleaner!
LOL. Expand to 13 seats. One more seat for FENTY FLOYD too
Nah, up it to 15 and SPIKE IT IN THEIR FACE! Lol I don't even know what that means.
I imagine most of those commenters are also located outside the US.
Sounds like euro-talk. "Spike it like a cribbage ball!" I mean, Cricket. Or whatever that's called.
Bro, dont forget Blake the rapist too!!
These retards realize that even FDR couldn't get seats added... right? I swear, they don't even know their own history.
Well one thing I'll give them is they don't give up.
They sure don't! They still think they own black Americans, just like they did back when they owned black slaves.
the only history they know is the Howard Zinn people's history shit
Anyone know how you can legally add seats?
You'd have to amend the law—and they need a normal majority in the Senate to do that.
It takes less than a Constitutional Amendment, since Supreme Court numbers aren't outlined in the Constitution, only powers, but only the partisan powermongers want court packing.
What’s to stop the next admin just adding more until there are 1000 judges?
Tradition and the opposing party.
They pass a law to expand the court, then they pass a new law saying you can't expand it. Total clown policy, but these dipshits seriously believe this isn't what fascism actually looks like.
FUCK DEMONIC DEMOCRATS GOD IS REAL AND HE WINS
PEDES: Vote for your R senator like your life depends on it. It does.
Even if he or she is the RINOiest RINO of ALL TIME
That said: LOFL, enjoy the salt
Exactly! Especially Pedes in Maine, Arizona and Montana. How the heck the Republicans in Maine couldn't find anyone better than Susan Collins?
This and TDS will be the factors that will make Dems vote this year.
Maine is tricky. A mostly blue state with an R senator who's pretty popular because she's swingy. No one could have beat her in the primary, no one solid MAGA anyway.
Then I am not sure she can vote on a possible nominee, given that she is running for reelection in a mostly blue state. That would probably mean losing her Senate seat. And as insufferable as she is, she is helping Republicans hold the majority in the Senate. If she loses her seat, the Dems are that much closer to regaining the majority.
Yep. Tricky. However, she is canny. She can't win without the Maine Republicans either.
I agree.
She will vote if her vote actually matters
We’re gonna need more salt mine workers
"We're just going to openly change the rules so that we always get our way no matter what. We're on the right side of history!"
I really want to see some faces rubbed in this steaming pile of shit come November.
Yeah they've abandoned law and order so they don't really get a say on the courts anymore.
I love when things don’t go their way they automatically go to changing the game so they can win.
The Calvinball of politics.
Fucking commies aren’t even hiding it. They HATE America.
they're melting down worse than reactor #4
Chinese Bots
To the guy arguing that 11seats will "just make it 6-5"....making it 15 seats will just make it 8-7, or making it 21 seats will make it 11-10. That's the fucking purpose of having an odd number, so you always avoid gridlock. Leftist idiot
I hear what you’re saying, but their point (made poorly) is that isn’t enough of a buffer given that plus existing 2, Trump will have added 3 (for total 5). 15 means 5 conservative 10 liberal. That’s the sticking it to us.
In this delusion it also never backfires, because under one party rule, the right will all be in gulags and unable to ever gain power again.
Also telling that they don’t even consider John Roberts as conservative.
Why stop at 13? Let's go for 50 seats! lol
Infinity!
I saw that anyone who pays attention to the courts are already voting anyway and it won't change their vote.
We will see how irt plays out. My lefty friends that have posted on FB only posted about voting, little to any, sad to see RBG pass type comments.
They will virtue signal to their friends about going to vote for Biden but secretly stay home to drink boxed wine with their cats.
I'm worried about the traitors in the senate, and the risk that Trump is going to go for a shithead like ACB, since apparently we have a lot of retards who will literally sabotage every single issue, from immigration to guns to communist insurrection, over stupid fucking abortion.
I don't care about it too much, either. I think it's amoral and literal murder, but I agree that we're probably better off if most of the people getting abortions don't have more kids.
I don't know, they're getting a crap ton of donations right now
Reddit on suicide watch. They don't even care about Ruth. All they care about is the direction of the seat.
I noticed that with my lefty FB friends. They loved Ruth, but now that she is dead, Ruth who? We must keep that seat.
Panic posting is going to be at stratosphere levels with less than 2 months to election.
hahah until the Trump SCOTUS rules that court packing is unconstitutional
EAT IT DEMS!!!
I'm pretty sure packing the court goes against the spirit of the constitution and I think the court would not allow it
bingo!
let's expand it to anyone who identifies as a SCOTUS justice
I love how the left moves the goal posts and change the rules to suit their agenda on the fly. They can all eat a bag of dicks.
Pack the courts until reality has a liberal bias!
We can't get our way!!!! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
We need to change the rules!
Just wait until The Republicans get their 3rd justice. They will not get ANY of this through without a SCOTUS ruling.
They always want to change the rules lmao
They're literally adults with the minds and intellects of preschoolers
101 seats, no 509 seats, no 25,333 seats.
They're going up faster on Supreme Court judges than they ever did for Minimum Wage.
GET.FUCKED.COMMIES
He is starting to lend support, and the games begin.
At least the court is even 4-4 for a bit.
I see what you did there!
The panic is real!
Yes yes dialate the supreme court
Can someone explain what this will all mean in simple terms, and how and when it will be done? Can she be replaced before the election?
She can be replaced. But she won't. The Democrats will pull some sort of scandal or something to hold it off. When they reference adding more seats, they talk about changing the number of justices so that one president could add multiple judges at once to counteract all the judges added by Trump and thus give them power over the supreme court. That is a cheating scam method and is only ever used in an effort to counteract the other parties judges and there is not actual logic to do it.
She can and SHE WILL BE REPLACED BEFORE THE ELECTION. It's all part of the plan. President Trump and the Senate republicans have been planning for this for a while.. They were just waiting for it to happen. The dems don't have as much control as they used to. Mtich is going push this one through no matter what.
Democrats don’t need to do anything. This is the type of event that the swamp will poke their heads out for. Romney, Murkowski, and Collins, that’s all they need.
VP PENCE will be the final vote. So it doesn't matter. this gets done and no amount of REEEEEEEEE from the liberals will stop it.
She will be replaced before the election.
Yes
Will she be replaced before the election? Probably not. We'll see.
Do you want an 8 seat court ruling on the election? Or a 9 seat with a new Trump pick?
How many of those losers commenting are from foreign countries? I've already seen friends of mine who aren't American citizens get all sad about her passing.
Weird how the progs always want to change all the rules as soon as they lose.
This is where they plan to cheat the most, in the House and Senate seats.
Why not 17? Or 21?
Have you ever heard of SEVEN MINUTE ABS???
Why stop at 13? Le's treat it like the minimum wage and inflate it indefinitely!
Everyone on my friend group Discord is shitting themselves over this. I get to sit back and smile.
Look at the basement fascists!
salt miners at the ready
"minimum 13 seats" lmao
these people are insane. Why not make it a cool million?
why not tree fiddy???
Lol faggots
Dems rule one can't win, "Cheat".
I already knew it, but wow, they really have no respect for this country. just add more seats till they win? What a bunch of losers.
Imagine if Trump was like, hey I am going to increase the number of Justices to 13 and pack them with conservative judges!
Watch them take back this idea so fast and scream how it is unfair lol!
SOMEONE MAKE A SALT THREAD STAT