MOON MINING! NASA To Spark "Lunar Gold Rush" In Move To Break China's Monopoly On Rare Earth Metals (Yet ANOTHER reason why we need to keep Trump in office. Biden & Harris wouldn't be interested in this - They're too busy praising rioters, looters, and arsonists!)
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CHOOSE GREATNESS
Say it with me, folks.
HELIUM
THREE
😂
Rickrolling 2020
At this point I just consider all the commieTurboCucks to be their own third, PedoGender. I just think they've had so much Soy that their Y became a y.
3 tities on Mars, confirmed science!
Get our asses to Mars!
4+5=9=3x3
Donald John Trump, 45, The Thrice Great
3 womps
Why stop at 3. FDR got 4 although he died at the beginning of his fourth, but it's time for equality and a Republican to get elected 4 times except Trump will finish all 4.
FDR died during his 4th.
Hope Mr Trump can enjoy a few good years of golf with buddies without pressure from a job.
I know it's a joke but if the county can't find a replacement for trump after 8 years then it doesn't have a hope of anyways.
Suggestions?
I think its too early to pick someone, it is one of those things life and the country can change a lot in 4 years, who might be the right one for now might not be the right one for then.
Which is an important lesson from the Democrats, don't force a candidate on your voters, let a natural leader be chosen by them.
A party nomination is what fucks things up.
We're presented a choice, instead of doing direct selection.
Good thing Mr Trump got the 2016 nomination though.
Noem
Cruz
James Woods
grenell
Tom Cotton, but he's missing a lot of the political ability to fight
Fact is whoever wants to be president needs to start acting like president now.
Sound like Lion Ted Cruz then.
Ted Cruz will be great. Older and wiser by then.
We gonna do it, folks? We gonna take a Cruz trip?
And be at the end of his Senate term.
3 MOONS
I remember reading about this in high school!
Its one thing to vote for trump to literally save western civilization and I have been ready and waiting since 2016, but getting to vote for trump so we can reignite the space age?!
PLEASE DADDY I CAN ONLY GET SO ERECT!
“Many people say fusion could be our best chance. It’s incredible. They tell me it is. And that’s regular earth fusion, this is...it’s incredible.”
"The fusion"
NAILED IT!
You look at other moonrocks from other presidents, total disaster. You look at this moonrock and this, this is the one everyone is talking about.
Ive done more for the moon community than any other president...except for maybe Lincoln
CNN: “Trump Moons Earth”
Mine Pebble first. WAY easier and cheaper and it’s on US soil. Envirowackos went on an all out blitz to stop it. Company did their DD and is waiting in final permits. POTUS promised to keep politics out of it. Don JR and Tucker got duped by the leftists. https://rightminerighttime.com/
I think you misspelled reeeenium... jk
Without all the BS it’s easily a $10 a share. In a few years when it’s open depending on metals prices $20-$75 a share. Enviros just used them which is par for the course. Need ROD and re-election and we will take off.
ROD?
Cool
Thanks for the explanation
If any lawsuits make it at least we have packed the 9th circus
Like the movie The Moon.
Sign me the fuck up! I’ll do microbiology on the moon bases to keep the pedes safe from facehuggahs. 😃
Perhaps I’ll find life, fossils etc. and most importantly, do the moon walk on the moon!
I wonder if I’ll find whalers and sing their whaling tune. 😉
Pfft, I don't see you with a fungineering degree
Aw geeze I went to highschool with that guy
Can you explain this? Common core science must have skipped this lesson
Helium 3 is(Theoretically) good fuel for a sustained and controlled nuclear fusion reaction, in other words fusion power
But isn’t wind more powerful than nuclear? That’s what my environmental science teacher said!!
Why don’t you just use public transit?
helium 3 fusion is nice and clean, and theoretically we can hit 70% energy conversion, which would be about 80 Megawatt hours of electricity per gram of fuel. Nuclear is the best green energy. biggest issue with this SPECIFIC example is that at current rate of progress it will be 2050 before we have it. If you REALLY want to melt a Anti-nuclear leftard's brain, wind and solar ARE nuclear energy(if you want to take it to enough of a logical extreme, literally everything is produced by nuclear energy)
90% of the things we do to produce electricity are just elaborate means of heating water.
pretty much
Tell them Trump wants to do it to build the USS Enterprise for real.
Correct! Issue is, until we have a working fusion reactor, we’ve been working off of fusion’s leftovers!
I wish more people would see wind farms for what they really are.. a blight on the landscape.
No. Tell your teacher to go back to school.
There is no point in using helium 3. It produces more power than fusing hydrogen but we can't get hydrogen fusion to work right without blowing apart it's containment and even then we have to transfer the heat which still hasn't been done. Can't move up to more difficult fusion when we can't get fusion working on the simplest thing.
Plus side is that when we do get fusion the moon will be a good supply depot.
For now we can just use detrinium and tritrinium that is plentiful in the oceans (hydrogen with 2/3 neutrons).
the big attraction of helium 3 is that it's aneutronic.
Thank you!
Perfectly summed up.
Same, I hate Europe but would love to play some golf in Scotland before I die!
Yeah...I'd like to check Poland(they seem so based) and Japan(they make so many things I like, Godzilla, Anime, Anime girls)
Everywhere else, I don't give a flying crap about seeing. I'll watch a documentary.
You're going to be so upset when I tell you about Minneapolis, MN...Columbus, Oh...and St. Cloud, MN. There are more Somalia Muslims in these three locations than anywhere else on Earth outside of Mogadishu, Somalia. If Somalians were instructed to go on the Hajj to Mecca, less would show up in Mecca than we have in these areas.
The globalist plan of "scatter the races to all corners" worked well and will shift demographics, globally, forever. It is what they want - to control these races who are much more willing to submit to tyranny than white europeans are. White europeans will fight tyrants, kill them, and impliment laws preventing their rise to power again. Non-whites fight each other over petty shit, at the behest of these elites, and never question why.
Agree with this pede!
That’s called progress, bigot.
The liberal dark ages
We gave up the stars for Detroit.
Not all Democrats are rioters, looters, and arsonists, but all rioters, looters, and arsonists are Democrats
Eh. I'll go with Leftists. I doubt many of them are registered to a party
I will line my garden with moon cheese
On the moon, nerds get their pants pulled down and they are spanked with moon rocks.
ATHF reference, nice
Made in China. Real moon rocks would be extremely expensive to send here.
I'd buy a dive set made from authentic moon rocks.
Don't shop at walmart - they support BLM with $$$$$
"Rare Earth Metals" is a bunch of bullshit. There is nothing rare about any of the minerals on earth and they are very abundant.
It's just propaganda. China only has a monopoly on them because we have shut ours down and made it impossible to mine here due to regulation. China has nothing that we don't have access to.
The thing with rare earth metals is that they don't concentrate like other metals. Metals like copper concentrate in hydrothermal environments in a process called enrichment. Rare earth metals are rare in this sense. But you are correct, cerium is actually more abundant than copper and is the 25th most abundant metal. There is a rare earth mine, Mountain Pass, in California that has a sizable ore body but due to economics, bankruptcy, and environmental regulations it is not operating. In reality the biggest reason is China and it's stranglehold on the market. Good news though the trade war is igniting the US efforts to mine our own minerals again.
This is correct. One of the major issues with the mine is what minerals are processed and which ones are considered 'waste.' Old methods of coal mining and a few sulfide mineral mines had the issue of leaving piles of waste minerals and then later burying them. Pyrite is one of those minerals and when oxidized, converts to sulfate forming sulfuric acid along with a shit-ton of dissolved iron and aluminum along with other metals that have no business being in freshwater systems in large concentrations. Such an issue can occur in other mines as well if the waste piles are not dealt with accordingly.
However, we can now use drainages and associated minerals as new sources of metals that were once considered waste, so there's a chance that old mines may be opened, looking for different metal source rocks rather than the original mined mineral.
The nice thing about using the moon: nothing lives up there and there is no ground water. The issue I see with this technology is getting people there and back to mine and the hazard of potential collapses and not having a rescue crew or anything. However, I'd imagine once we have the technology to get to the moon effectively and safely, we'd have mining automated.
Examples? I doubt they'd be valuable (except to scientists) if we haven't found them here yet. The reason rare earth metals are valuable is because we use them in modern technologies.
Go fuck yourself right off a cliff. I didn't conclude anything. WTF is wrong with you? Maybe if you told me which elements you're talking about I wouldn't have had to speculate. I was talking about value right now if we could get to it. The highest numbered rare earths - if they haven't been available in large amounts already - need to be heavily studied before they become valuable. I asked which ones you meant so I could look them up.
Might this "story" be a method to get the public to agree to more NASA funding?
Exactly. Blame the EPA for China's monopoly on rare earth minerals. .
the environmental impact of the mountain pass mine is in fact miniscule.
it is the tiniest cutest little open pit you ever did see. if you're from minnesota or any coal mining state you would laugh. this is no hull-rust pit. this is not even a west virginia coal mine. it is little more than a deep gravel pit, with the actual mine barely 300 feet wide, and its wastewater ponds are no larger than a small town sewage-treatment plant.
the whole site including all buildings is less than 2 miles wide. there is a golf course further up the highway that takes up about the same acreage. the ivanpah solar plant which is just to the northeast takes up 4x as much space.
that's it. this little thing along the highway in the desert produced most of the world's rare earth metals for years.
the reason it could not compete with china is that china's mines are a horde of low budget cowboy operations with absolutely zero regulation or care for consequences. little gravel pits where they pile up the dirt on a leach pad and soak it with sulfuric and nitric acid to extract the metals. acidic sulfate and nitrate runoff full of metals goes everywhere, and the operators just walk away from the mess when they've cashed in.
It costs too much money to open and run a rare earth mine in America. I'll give you an example.
One of the byproducts of a lot of these mines is thorium. Thorium is a radioactive metal and it is often intermixed with the rare earth metals in the ground, so that when a mine pulls the dirt up to process for rare earth minerals, it also pulls up thorium. This stuff is not made by the mine as a byproduct of some kind of chemical leaching process, it was there, in the ground, the whole time.
I tell you this to say; the mine cannot simply put the thorium back where they found it when they are done mining. They must pay to store this stuff at an approved radioactive materials storage site. How much money do you think that costs?
That's the kind of outrageous regulations these guys have to contend with. That's why we don't mine for this stuff in America.
bureaucracy at its finest. the stupid part is that it's like throwing away money. if we had reactors to burn it in, which have already been built and operated in many places, that mine could be producing billions of kilowatt hours of energy every year, as well as all the rare earth metals.
There are some serious technical problems that need to be worked out with liquid salt reactors, but I agree. The Indians and Chinese are preceding with thorium reactor research, and we should be as well.
with liquid salt, true. fluorine is not the friendliest chemical. or rather it's too friendly for the user's own good. it's worth working on of course.
but we did use thorium in more or less conventional reactors too. the shippingport reactor was online with a thorium core from 1977 to 1982 and it seems to have worked out well. my impression is that the biggest early reason to avoid thorium technology is that we needed pu-239 for bomb production, and the biggest reason in more recent times was carter's allergy to reprocessing and breeding, which has kept us stuck behind the 8 ball in closing the fuel cycle ever since then. and maybe the general autism of nuc regulators when faced with anything new.
i guess maybe the biggest real obstacle to using thorium is that uranium works pretty darn well. works great in france, even if the french are now agitating about killing that golden goose. so who needs a substitute?
but if we had rare earth mining, and a stable domestic source of thorium, and if it was more than needed for lamp wicks and welding rod, and if we could bridge rediculous regulatory nonsense (leave it in the tailing pond and you're under epa, separate the metal and now the nrc wants to talk)...
well, if. but it would seem to make sense to have a candu reactor or two to burn that california thorium, in case there is a nearby state with a power deficit.
Sounds like something an executive order could fix.
Sounds like communism to me
We planted our flag on it so it's ours. The moon is AMERiCAN territory motherfuckers!
Lol, they can enforce it with their space agency
But then those will be Rare Moon Metals.
We have the rarest minerals, don’t we folks?
How they gonna mine the moon when a documentary I saw said it was actually hollow and likely an abandoned alien space station?
Name of documentary? Sounds like a good watch lol
Drwho
Checks out
NASA can fuck off, its filled with Marxist retards now who are offended by everything https://www.techtimes.com/articles/251597/20200805/nasa-rename-cosmic-objects-replace-racial-insensitive-names-list.htm I'd rather Space X and other private companies lead the way.
Yes basically NASA should be a incubator that funds private space companies, state-of-the-art engine development, and to a lesser extent helps astronomers with their research. The Space Force will take over all the national security stuff.
I bet Trumps deal with the MIC was to push them out of the Middle East and have them refocus on selling the US stuff for the development of space. To a certain extent you don’t want to unemploy all the government contractors, but to another extent you don’t want to have them acting on their own encouraging and starting more wars.
What's up with those tunnels Elon dug under LA?
The Boring Company is almost finished with a project in LasVegas I believe.
What about Mars 2020?
There's actually a lot of freshly minted Trump supporters at NASA because of what he's done for their funding and bringing back the grand vision.
I remember when Trump promised we’d see amazing things over his first four years. Experimental treatments, HCQ for coronavirus, mining the moon, going to Mars. He’s kept every promise and more. I can’t wait for the next four years!
The scope of what we could conceivably tackle now with the right political capital is so huge.. asteroid mining, space elevators.. clearing out all the nasty things in near-earth orbit that could at any time drop onto a major population centre is an imperative and its likely profitable as well since there are some very nice metals in asteroids.
Don't disagree with that at all - the way that there are incentives to get commercial and private groups to independently develop their own milestones for propulsion, launch vehicles, telemetry and guidance systems, reuse strategies etc with competitions and so on seems to be a good way to get things flowing.
Otherwise you get faux companies that are very transparent scams or money laundering vehicles like Soylindra, Theranos and the like.
While I agree with the first part of your statement, the technological advances we get here in Earth from space exploration would be worth it.
How about we have no taxes period?
Ok guy. You got a problem with how your money is spent take it up with your elected officials.
Space elevators are unrealistic and the chance of space debris deorbitting into civilian centers + not burning up on the way down is zero.
Totally agree on the first part though.
I am just a simple moon miner
Is taking mass from the moon a good idea, though?
The amount of mass you can realistically take from the Moon will have 0 effect on its orbit or on the tides, dw
They're gonna really freak out when we put in a pipeline.
Read the article theres an info graphic about it. Tldr? Well, 1 cubic metric ton a day would take 220millions years to take away 1% of the mass. So, it's a non-issue.
They did the math!
I am more worried about what would happen if we sent to many people to one particular side of the moon, it might flip or capsize... anyone else worried about that?
Totally valid concern. I wondered the same thing. However, a closer analysis reveals that the island of Guam is considerably smaller than the Moon, so we would need significantly more people to be truly at risk for capsizing the Moon. It helps tremendously that our great astronauts tend not to be obese land whale leftists with pink and blue ombre hair and piercings for the piercings on their uvula.
Thanks for alleiviating my concern on this particular matter sir. You have explained it in a way that even Hank Johnson could understand.
It is my pleasure to assist you with the most very basic level of common sense imaginable to personkind (because #tolerance).
Totally valid question
Ask asteroids. In reality, the amount we would need to take to affect anything would be unimaginably vast.
Trump is already acting to deal with the rare earth situation. What people don't realize is that there are tremendous deposits of rare earths right here in the USA but they aren't economical to mine because of EPA regulations. Mining of rare earths tends to leave tailings that are considered "TENORM" (Technologically Enhanced Naturally Occurring Radioactive Materials), primarily Thorium and Uranium. Uranium obviously has commercial use but Thorium is considered radioactive waste which means it's insanely regulated and expensive to deal with. That's the ONLY reason we buy it from China.
Ironically, while thorium is technically radioactive, it's half life is longer than the age of the universe. It's practically innert in that respect. Trump is working to appropriately regulate such "waste" so that we can commercially mine our own rare earth materials right here in the good old US of A.
There's no need to fly expensive ships and equipment to and from the moon, especially since the moon is an incredibly poor source of rare earth minerals. The moon is more likely to be a source of titanium, but even that would be prohibitively expensive to extract.
Can't wait until we can finally send something to Titan (One of Saturns 62 moons). That place is LOADED with oil and gasses.
don't forget that thorium is perfectly useful nuclear fuel as well.
Don't forget praising rapists too (Jacob Blake)
What I don't understand is where they say they're "buying up Lunar land". Who the hell owns it? We're the only ones that have even stepped foot on it.
Idk but they announced they weren’t beholden to some BS “space commons” treaty.
Why though
The Grays, duh.
Phase 1: Collect Underpants
Phase 2:
Phase 3: PROFIT!
Mouse got in the studio
Something we may even need some sort of 'Space Force' for.
But what sort of a 4D chess master would have all the pieces ready for ignition?
"We're going to put the first woman on the moon, and the first astronaut on Mars"
That's totally badass!
Ummm or we could just reverse the Clinton rules that stopped mining in the US
Can't wait for american asteroid mining privateers.
Rare “moon” minerals
NEED MORE VESPENE GAS
This is awesome but it isn’t about rare earths. There is 1 mine on the west coast that alone can and used to outproduce China. We have quite a bit on our soil. This is about rare Pepe’s.
Yeah but what about building inter-dependent global political structures that the average person has no say in? Ever think about that, bigot?!
Uhhh the moon is hollow
Space is America’s final frontier
Disagree, it’s simply our next frontier. Consider this, parallel timelines where America never happened. We may have a lot of fixing to do in the quantum realm.
space is fake
Moon miner sounds like a killer job. Lets go pedes
I'm in Law School now, I'm switching to Moon Law. Who's coming with me to beat the filthy commies at Moon Mining? We gotta get all the He3 before the Bolshevik Bastards.
Helium-3 is the key to the fusion energy breakthrough and the Moon is pelted with it from the Sun 24/7.
I'm hoping they can just do the dark side of the moon. I don't want to look up and see track marks.
With how cratered the moon is and far away, i dont think itll be an issue
The question of who could own parts of the moon is a very simple one to answer: whomever can get there and claim it. That is how land rushes work. If you can't get to the moon, then you are assed out.
I bet Moon miner's make over minimum wage. ;)
It ain't flipping burgers!
I find it infinitly stupid, that we've ALREADY proven that INFINITE wealth of area, rescources, etc exist among the stars, and we aren't pushing like mad hell to get there, make it easy to obtain, and for humanity to fucking ascend to becoming a multi-planet species..... fuck...
Sorry i'm kind of a futurist....
We're at the "do the bits between my legs make me a boy or a girl?" stage of human development, so I would say baby steps.
Do we have rocketships that could send 1 way to the center of the heliosphere? Asking for science.
Rare Earth Metals of the Moon
Rare Earth Metals are not all that rare. There are plenty in the US and all over the world.
Problem is it is a filthy and energy-intensive process to extract them. That's why the greedy Chi-Coms who don't give a fuck about pollution specialize in rare earths.
I always envisioned space mining meteors that come close to earth so you get to mine for 6 months and the payload gets a ride back so once it's near earth you can unload it and retrieve the mining equipment and the separated minerals.
Not with current rocket tech. The differences in orbital speeds is enormous if you're looking at catching onto NEOs.
Yeah it's definitely not something to do with current technology but just how I imagine space mining once we grow more ambitious than just harvesting from the moon which is the obvious starting point
This is by far the absolute dumbest idea I've ever seen supported on here.
This has the potential to destroy us.
That shopped mining picture looks pretty sweet. Let's make it happen.
I like how the list of ideas is "3d printer" as if its a magic box.
Everyone, quick, dump your gold on the global market! So stupid.
We 3d print gold on the moon and everybody is happy. Win.
What could possibly go wrong!?
I don't think this is a good idea.
Why would Biden want to go against the interests of China, his main employer?
This figuratively gives me a boner.
Hopefully this is not another Panama Canal situation where the USA builds everything and make sure it works... Then the Democrats sell it to the Chinese or the Russian's for a kickback and no show jobs for their kids.
"LUNAR REGOLITH"
New MAGA Band.
That's pretty smart. Mine REM on the Moon, fuck China in the process, and the tree huggers can't bitch about muh 'vironment.