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DrCowboyPresident 4 points ago +4 / -0

The people and culture made this nation great. Without the culture, there would be no Constitution.

And now that our people and culture are fractured, we are falling apart even though we have the Constitution.

People and their culture come first.

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MagicBeans 3 points ago +3 / -0

You have a good point. It was certainly the desire and will of the framers and those who pioneered this country that made this nation great. A document is only that without soul of the individual behind it. No argument there. Without the constitution, however, the spirit of those early Americans would have been short lived after their generation died off. Maybe you are more optimistic about the general nature mankind than I am. Without general rules, laws and a code of principles to allow for the flourishing of individuals, I believe societies fall apart. Organized religion somewhat also held things together as well for a long time, but that has unfortunately really fallen apart. I would submit that the movement away from Constitutionalism, Faith and Family have allowed our nation to fall apart. Where I think you are really into something though is the fact that the left are attempting to move our country further away from Individualism toward Collectivism and that is counter to our spirit as a nation and what has made our country powerful.

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DrCowboyPresident 0 points ago +1 / -1

Without the constitution, however, the spirit of those early Americans would have been short lived after their generation died off.

This is untrue. The people made the society. The Constitution didn't make them.

Without general rules, laws and a code of principles to allow for the flourishing of individuals, I believe societies fall apart.

America existed before the Constitution. That one document isn't all the law that existed before or after. Most of life didn't change all that much.

My point is all this flows out from the people and their culture. A good culture governs itself, document or not.

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MagicBeans 2 points ago +2 / -0

Point taken