Or we go with the candidate who is best suited for the job instead of playing idiotic identity politics like the damn liberals. This should be a meritocracy, not a circus.
I think you're looking at it backwards. To even have a chance of making it on Trump's long list (much less his short list), credentials must be impeccable. Both these women (and any other candidate under consideration) more than merit the opportunity.
I don't disagree with that, but have you heard about how ACB ruled in favor of IL governor Pritzger allowing BLM protests and keeping churches closed? When the church really needed her, she turned her back on it and went for that virtue signal instead. I've also heard she's pretty lax on immigration. Last thing we need is another Roberts.
There is no evidence that she is lax on immigration. That rumor comes from a bunch of retards who see that she adopted two kids from Hati and go “seeee!! She totally wants open borders!!!!”
That decision highlights the problem and naivete we're facing as conservatives trying to counter the leftist agenda.
On the surface, it seems fair to allow local government leeway in deciding its own measures and regulations. But when leftists are involved, what happens every single time is that leeway is then used to restrict the "leeway" of its citizens. Essentially, if you give the leftists a long leash, they end up wrapping that leash around the necks of their citizenry.
This is why limiting local government action IS NOT a restriction of freedom. Rather it is a guarantee of freedom for the citizens.
I honestly don't know why these "smart" judges haven't figured this out.
Unfortunately legal decisions dont always go the way you want them too. Sometimes we are wrong. Sometimes the justice is wrong. Sometimes the law is written wrong and the judges hands are tied.
Judges interpret law not write them. We wouldn't want someone who just decides what a law says based on the outcome they want.
didnt the kavanaugh hearing take longer than normal? im actually asking because i really dont know. i feel like i recall it taking a month just to get blasey ford out to dc.
Also because there isn't a conservative woman on the court right now. Also because male/female is not the same as other identity politics. Women make up half the country and half of voters. They will demand representation on the court.
To be fair, every federal judge up until this point will have some ties to the swamp. Trump needs to shift through them to find the least swampy and compromised.
From my admittedly limited reading Lagoa seems like a beast. Looks like daddy raised her right after getting fucked over by the commies. She might just be a fantastic justice, but I got more reading to do. Ive been high fiving so much since I heard about RBG it hurts my hand to google.
Totally get your sentiment, but the Cuban woman seems to be the better choice of the two. Cubans tend to hate Communism in all of its forms. Also, if she gets attacked, this will turn the Hispanic and female communities against Democrats for generations as well as in the general election.
Hispanics are way more likely to vote R than black people. I think Trump could get a better turnout than before, and this would also appeal to suburban housewives who unfortunately like it or not tend to vote D.
This is a typical female response. Rather than giving weight only to fact and evidence and reason, like a chess played out many moves, equal weight is given to emotions and feelings and perception.
page 19 has the bulk of it. I'd copy-paste the text here, but spaces are removed so it looks pretty ugly.
Key points (from a related article) excerpts
the judges emphasized the governor also still has the authority under the Constitution and the law to impose public health restrictions on religious practices. They pointed to a decision the Seventh Circuit delivered earlier this year, which stated the court believes Pritzker and other governors have no obligation to exempt religious gatherings from COVID-19 prevention measures imposed on businesses and other organizations and assemblies.
However, they said the governor was also free to give religious gatherings greater leeway, compared to other otherwise First Amendment-protected activities, because of the special “speech-plus” status the First Amendment grants to religious exercise and practice.
The law, the judges said, “does not compel the Governor to treat all gatherings alike, whether they be of Catholics, Lutherans, Orthodox Jews, Republicans, Democrats, University of Illinois alumni, Chicago Bears fans, or others,” Judge Wood wrote. “Free exercise of religion enjoys express constitutional protection, and the Governor was entitled to carve out some room for religion, even while he declined to do so for other activities.”
The primary argument of the court is that the scope of first amendment privileges is 1) limited and 2) administered at the discretion of the governor. And THEN 3) that the plaintiff has to prove unequal discrimination.
On Points 1 and 2 alone , that disqualifies her in my opinion. she agrees with this opinion written by the court, and in essence not only says covid lock downs are OK, but that 1A is, in fact, limited in scope, and is exercised at the permission and discretion of the governor.
Instead, it means that the question is whether the government has the power to disable the exercise of a right that they otherwise possess, rather than whether they possess the right at all.
2A
...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I'm no Supreme Court Justice, but I don't think any "question" exists.
How tf do you become a judge and not have the ability to read?
I hate the identity politics but I'm going to love watching democrats try to destroy a Cuban American woman's character, they will squirm like the weasels they are and have to vote for her
Doesn't matter. They've tried to destroy Ted Cruz who is cuban.
They only use the race/gender card when it suits them. And most cubans are based anyway. Even the ones who were liberal before have been completely turned away by the socialism and communism of the left.
It was “favorable” because she said the felon had a right to have a gun because he wasn’t demonstrated to be sufficiently dangerous. Her opinion then went on to describe the conditions under which the government can confiscate guns, and it’s basically a blue print for green lighting such a ruling from her. So no, I don’t think is he’s pro 2A - I think she tolerates the 2A.
Woman used solely as breeding stock, rights as humans taken away, corrupt upper class that enjoys all the vices they forbid the common plebes. Sounds like Iran to me. If whos the boss girl loves larping as a handmaid maybe she should go to Iran to get the full effect.
Yea I agree that's definitely the strategy the Republicans are going for and it's smart. I just don't know how effective it can still be for people that are undecided when we've lived through almost 4 years of this bullshit.
Apparently ACB said if the Pope told her to do something on a decision he wanted, she would do it. Do we need the Pope, the ultimate heretic dictating our rulings in the court? No, we need people who have biblical morals, follow the federal, and supreme law. And don't have any sworn allegiances to people who are in other countries. I don't want that evil man being able to rule on judicial hearings.
I'm Catholic and this is very scary because the Pope is not a catholic. Is there a source for this because it would totally turn me against her and disqualify her
I want the Cuban as I think there's less chance of secret liberal tendencies and she also might help win Trump Florida with all the vote nonsense this year
While 1st generation Cubans are indeed the most based of Latinos, I don't think that makes her any more immune to political pressures from lefties. We should judge them based on passed rulings and merits alone. I would like my latest Justice in .50 thank you.
That is what makes her the better choice. The left is wanting to move this country towards socialism/communism. Picking Lagoa would be a 5D chess move. Then the left does their BS like they did with Kavanaugh which will cause the left/Biden&Harris to look even worse in the public's eye and help Trump's re-election even more
Or we go with the candidate who is best suited for the job instead of playing idiotic identity politics like the damn liberals. This should be a meritocracy, not a circus.
I think you're looking at it backwards. To even have a chance of making it on Trump's long list (much less his short list), credentials must be impeccable. Both these women (and any other candidate under consideration) more than merit the opportunity.
I don't disagree with that, but have you heard about how ACB ruled in favor of IL governor Pritzger allowing BLM protests and keeping churches closed? When the church really needed her, she turned her back on it and went for that virtue signal instead. I've also heard she's pretty lax on immigration. Last thing we need is another Roberts.
Identity politics: There's already a Hispanic woman on the bench. Sotomayer
...for now.
There is no evidence that she is lax on immigration. That rumor comes from a bunch of retards who see that she adopted two kids from Hati and go “seeee!! She totally wants open borders!!!!”
The favoring gatherings for BLM terrorists while allowing churches to be closes is real though.
This coming from someone who thinks she would be a worthy Justice
Gonna need a source on it. I don’t think people are making that one up but I want to verify.
https://cookcountyrecord.com/stories/553524774-appeals-court-pritzker-ok-to-limit-or-not-limit-religious-political-gatherings-to-combat-covid-19
Thanks to myth who provided me the link yesterday/friday
That decision highlights the problem and naivete we're facing as conservatives trying to counter the leftist agenda.
On the surface, it seems fair to allow local government leeway in deciding its own measures and regulations. But when leftists are involved, what happens every single time is that leeway is then used to restrict the "leeway" of its citizens. Essentially, if you give the leftists a long leash, they end up wrapping that leash around the necks of their citizenry.
This is why limiting local government action IS NOT a restriction of freedom. Rather it is a guarantee of freedom for the citizens.
I honestly don't know why these "smart" judges haven't figured this out.
Yep, take the anti communist Cuban
Unfortunately legal decisions dont always go the way you want them too. Sometimes we are wrong. Sometimes the justice is wrong. Sometimes the law is written wrong and the judges hands are tied.
Judges interpret law not write them. We wouldn't want someone who just decides what a law says based on the outcome they want.
I think it's because speed is essential and will be harder to delay confirmation of a candidate who's not white or male.
We have the votes in the senate with Pence being the tiebreaker. There's literally nothing the dems could do to stop the confirmation.
Its not about just the confirmation, it’s about speed
what could they do to delay?
didnt the kavanaugh hearing take longer than normal? im actually asking because i really dont know. i feel like i recall it taking a month just to get blasey ford out to dc.
Are you a goldfish c‘’mon man!
Very misogynistic to think a woman cannot sexually assault someone.
Cardi B has entered the chat.
Also because there isn't a conservative woman on the court right now. Also because male/female is not the same as other identity politics. Women make up half the country and half of voters. They will demand representation on the court.
Didn't the Cuban ones dad get appointed by Bill Clinton? And wasn't she also hand picked by Jeb Bush when he was governor of Florida?
Smells kinda swampy to me.
To be fair, every federal judge up until this point will have some ties to the swamp. Trump needs to shift through them to find the least swampy and compromised.
Keep up our education !!!
From my admittedly limited reading Lagoa seems like a beast. Looks like daddy raised her right after getting fucked over by the commies. She might just be a fantastic justice, but I got more reading to do. Ive been high fiving so much since I heard about RBG it hurts my hand to google.
Totally get your sentiment, but the Cuban woman seems to be the better choice of the two. Cubans tend to hate Communism in all of its forms. Also, if she gets attacked, this will turn the Hispanic and female communities against Democrats for generations as well as in the general election.
Why would this turn the communities? The only black man on the bench is a republican and dems still have them trained on a tight leash.
Hispanics are way more likely to vote R than black people. I think Trump could get a better turnout than before, and this would also appeal to suburban housewives who unfortunately like it or not tend to vote D.
He already committed to picking a woman so we have no real choice here. I wish he didn't.
I think the Cuban American is the one to go for. She's brilliant, hispanic and also from Florida which is a battleground state.
Also, can you imagine the rage Hispanics will feel after Democrats call her a rapist and a racist? It's going to be an endless parade of salty tears
Both have the ability to win us new voters when Democrats attack them.
ACB has 7 kids including 2 black adopted lol
Cumala Harris will shriek and shrill...
But I heard a lot of negatives about ACB from pedes reg. her judging.
Her rulings on 2A and covid completely disqualify her imho.
Also this at 14:30 is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. https://youtu.be/j0ZN532f9d0
Disgusting. The bitch is all feelings and emotion. She belongs nowhere near the SCOTUS.
This is a typical female response. Rather than giving weight only to fact and evidence and reason, like a chess played out many moves, equal weight is given to emotions and feelings and perception.
She is totally disqualified in my book.
Wtf. In order to guard against my own emotional bias, I imagine the opposing side's emotional bias and see how that feels?
Really, WTF. This is making the case for why women should never ever be judges.
when will we learn
https://imgur.com/a/vLBowQ0
Source for the 2A and covid rulings?
2A: https://thedonald.win/p/HXjxedvz/sunday-gunday-psa--acb-is-not-pr/
Covid -- https://s3.amazonaws.com/jnswire/jns-media/f6/e6/11467564/il_gop_v_pritzker_7thcirc.pdf
page 19 has the bulk of it. I'd copy-paste the text here, but spaces are removed so it looks pretty ugly.
Key points (from a related article) excerpts
The primary argument of the court is that the scope of first amendment privileges is 1) limited and 2) administered at the discretion of the governor. And THEN 3) that the plaintiff has to prove unequal discrimination.
On Points 1 and 2 alone , that disqualifies her in my opinion. she agrees with this opinion written by the court, and in essence not only says covid lock downs are OK, but that 1A is, in fact, limited in scope, and is exercised at the permission and discretion of the governor.
horrible.
Kanter v Barr:
2A
I'm no Supreme Court Justice, but I don't think any "question" exists.
How tf do you become a judge and not have the ability to read?
Exactly. Right there with you man.
Do you know any on Trump's list that think the lockdowns are not okay?
not specifically. but ACB is a "no" from me for a multitude of issues. not just lockdown stuff.
She says one must separate personal feelings from judicial rulings I don’t see the problem, unless I’m reading it wrong
she says " I try to imagine it's one of my children, on the other side. . . If this were someone I loved . . . could I apply this reasoning"
I hate the identity politics but I'm going to love watching democrats try to destroy a Cuban American woman's character, they will squirm like the weasels they are and have to vote for her
Future CNN headline:
“New study confirms Cubans descend from white slave owners; not actually people of color”
Doesn't matter. They've tried to destroy Ted Cruz who is cuban.
They only use the race/gender card when it suits them. And most cubans are based anyway. Even the ones who were liberal before have been completely turned away by the socialism and communism of the left.
Putting someone on the court purely for politics is a shit reason. Fuck identity politics.
Plus Cubans HATE socialism. As a Canadian I’ve travelled to Cuba lots for holidays and they are super super oppressed.
So do Vietnamese people, but second gen Vietnamese tend to always vote Dem.
Not an ACB fan, then
And the Second Amendment.
Hopefully a Cuban understand political power, and the ability to resist such power, find from the barrel of a gun.
ACB authored one opinion so far concerning 2A and it was favorable.
It was “favorable” because she said the felon had a right to have a gun because he wasn’t demonstrated to be sufficiently dangerous. Her opinion then went on to describe the conditions under which the government can confiscate guns, and it’s basically a blue print for green lighting such a ruling from her. So no, I don’t think is he’s pro 2A - I think she tolerates the 2A.
ACB is not strong on the 2A
Amy.Barrett.is.a.RINO
I don't know much about her. What makes her a RINO?
Her rulings.
What is a ruling she has done that I should be concerned about?
"Sect that inspired The Handmaids Tale?"
That's a funny way to spell "Catholic."
I am so fucking sick of the anti-Catholic bigotry.
Meanwhile, the sect that produced the TV show...
A bunch of god damned diddlers!
Funny enough, if you watched the show with no previous bias the cult in The Handmands Tale looks suspiciously like Islam.
Woman used solely as breeding stock, rights as humans taken away, corrupt upper class that enjoys all the vices they forbid the common plebes. Sounds like Iran to me. If whos the boss girl loves larping as a handmaid maybe she should go to Iran to get the full effect.
For real tho I always thought it was about Islam
Wait, that's what they meant? I thought it meant the quiverfull sect which wouldn't enthuse me at all.
Nope. She's Catholic.
She needs to sue them for libel
That worked in the 80's when the woke brigade wasn't running things.
You really want to fracture the Left, go after someone who checks every identity group affiliation. Great way to make Lefties stay home.
Democrats don't care about their hypocrisy and anybody that doesn't already see it is blind.
Yea I agree that's definitely the strategy the Republicans are going for and it's smart. I just don't know how effective it can still be for people that are undecided when we've lived through almost 4 years of this bullshit.
Apparently ACB said if the Pope told her to do something on a decision he wanted, she would do it. Do we need the Pope, the ultimate heretic dictating our rulings in the court? No, we need people who have biblical morals, follow the federal, and supreme law. And don't have any sworn allegiances to people who are in other countries. I don't want that evil man being able to rule on judicial hearings.
I'm Catholic and this is very scary because the Pope is not a catholic. Is there a source for this because it would totally turn me against her and disqualify her
So, is this from an anonymous source like all the fake allegations against POTUS? No source, no traction CNN.
This is the tired attack they use against any Catholic running for office. It was used against JFK as well.
Holy shit you’re doing what they did back when JFK was running.
Federalist society for the win, women are soft on immigration for the loss
Plot twist. The husbands are serial rapists....and the women support it! ...like Hillary.
You got some sauce for that nothing burger?
edit: what? if you're going to call ACB and Lagoa's husbands rapists, well then I need some source material. lol
That's what we call, "swing and a miss." Try again Poindexter.
it was a joke about you not having a source for ACB's husband being a rapist. but if he is, I'm all ears man, hit me with the source!
I think both of you needed /s in your comments.
good idea.
SAD.
I want the Cuban as I think there's less chance of secret liberal tendencies and she also might help win Trump Florida with all the vote nonsense this year
Her father was a judge appointed by Bill Clinton and she was appointed by Jeb Bush.
please clap
While 1st generation Cubans are indeed the most based of Latinos, I don't think that makes her any more immune to political pressures from lefties. We should judge them based on passed rulings and merits alone. I would like my latest Justice in .50 thank you.
As long as it's Trump's choice and not Kushner's.
So two people who will never admit to themselves how bad immigrants are for this country and will never admit that Americans have the right to exist.
Iran?
Neither one them have things that show me how good of a job they will do.
It just shows me positives of their lives.
I'm pretty sure The Handmaid's Tale is about muslims.
If Judge Lagoa's history shows she's cut from the same cloth as Thomas then she's the pick.
I can imagine that would help keep Florida in the red.
Yes I assumed her gender.
I vote for Lagoa.
Kate Todd
Sorta leaning toward the Cuban american, damn sure she isn't gonna put up with communism
Go with the Cuban!
Within a day she will be the worst person in the world ever.
Lagoa, when you've got commies trying to burn down America's door, you want her in the fight.
That is what makes her the better choice. The left is wanting to move this country towards socialism/communism. Picking Lagoa would be a 5D chess move. Then the left does their BS like they did with Kavanaugh which will cause the left/Biden&Harris to look even worse in the public's eye and help Trump's re-election even more
I’ll take the anti communist Cuban for the win. Put several Blackhawks at her disposal
10/5 points each question.
I think our Cuban choice is the winner this round. But vet both. We need to make sure they cannot Bork, Thomas or Cavanaugh either one.
Hmmmm. Going Cuban and bringing more Hispanic votes?
What’s the Christian sect they referenced?
Im liking Barbara!