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LOL the left is threatening civil war and using the UN to take our guns (media.patriots.win) 🔥 FIRE & FURY 💥
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somethinga9230k -1 points ago +1 / -2

So the Nazis, who literally fought terrorist and murderous Antifa in the streets, and also joined in a "Anti-Comintern Pact", with many people specifically deciding to support them due to their anti-communist stances and views, and whom waged total war against communists and the Soviet Union (whom had committed planned, intentional and organized genocides upon genocides upon genocides against millions of ethnic Europeans)... were communists themselves?

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operator1214 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Nazis were originally the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei -- the German Worker's Party -- does that sound like anything other than a socialist party to you? The communists helped the nazis into power -- the enemy of my enemy is my friend. One of the great fallacies of history is that the Nazis were a right-leaning group. Read their platform (read the Italian Fascist manifesto as well), read the original writings concerning America and capitalism, remember that they allied with Stalin to invade Poland...they were not pro-capitalism nor pro-freedom. As I stated, their fighting with the Soviets amounted to a turf war only. The nazis were just a brand of national communism as opposed to the international branding of the Soviets (which, truth be told, was hardly as egalitarian as their sympathizers like to let on -- that was just propaganda).

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somethinga9230k -1 points ago +1 / -2

You don't address or explain my arguments, and instead evade them, and you know that well. Again:

So the Nazis, who literally fought terrorist and murderous Antifa in the streets, and also joined in a "Anti-Comintern Pact", with many people specifically deciding to support them due to their anti-communist stances and views, and whom waged total war against communists and the Soviet Union (whom had committed planned, intentional and organized genocides upon genocides upon genocides against millions of ethnic Europeans)... were communists themselves?

And reg. their name, is "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" democratic because of its name? And reg. how socialist they supposedly were, were the Nazis not fine with private property and businesses? How socialist is that?

[...] remember that they allied with Stalin to invade Poland... [...]

And yet, as I mentioned and as you are well aware, they indeed invaded the genocidal Soviet Union and waged total war against them not long after. And what was the reason for invading Poland? If the Soviet Union invaded Poland by itself and took all of it, the Soviet Union would have had plenty of buffer land to wage war with, while Germany would have a direct border with the Soviet Union. Would Germany have had any chance to defend itself against the Soviet Union whatsoever if the Soviet Union had a direct border with Germany itself? And Germany had repeatedly throughout the 1930s (Hitler praised Pilsudski and held a memorial service for him in Berlin) attempted to create a defensive pact with Poland (and Poland did not have a strong military, while they did have tanks, they also had tankettes and literal horse cavalry when they were invaded in 1939. Though, to be fair, Germany also likely made claims that were most likely fully unacceptable to Poland, which did not help matters.

And the original claim was that "brown shirts" were the Antifa of the 1930s (see https://thedonald.win/p/HXjwWF0t/x/c/17r9ISd2oC ), which is blatantly wrong and insane to claim, given that the "brown shirts" were literally fighting Antifa terrorists and murderers in the streets, including in a time when the Soviet Union had already committed planned, organized and intentional genocide against millions of ethnic Europeans (including millions of poor workers and farmers).

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operator1214 1 point ago +1 / -0

I gave you resources to read and determine whether or not the NSDAP (aka. National Socialist German Worker's Party, aka. Nazis) were espousing socialist policies, particularly radical ones as well.

Whether or not they fought the Soviets does not negate the fact that they were socialists. Whether or not they fought with Antifa does not negate the fact that they were socialists. Their policies were not that much different, if at all from the Soviets. As I stated: criminal gangs often fight each other...doesn't make one or the other of them any less criminal.

"Nacht Hitler, kommen wir" -- "After Hitler comes us"; that was the German Reds' slogan. Doesn't get more clear than that. They used the Nazis to attempt to push through their own radical agenda over the less radical SPD (which was socialist, but did not want a full communist revolution in Germany at that time -- incremental communism, as it were); Hitler used them to push through his party's rise to power (the Red's civil insurrection drove voter's to want stability and order, naturally) -- it worked. However, none of these groups was pro-capitalism or pro-individual liberty. Evil can come in many forms, sometimes all at once!

And Poland likely ascertained that Hitler's pact with them was as worthless as toilet paper -- the NSDAP was on record demanding colonies; it appears as though the Poles realized they were earmarked for that (that is one of the things believed by my father's family in Italy: Italy allied itself with Germany not only due to the natural affinities between Italian Fascism and German Nazism, but also and primarily because they hoped it would keep the Germans from occupying, with the attendant results. Italy was allied, even under Mussolini, with the Brits -- and this is the alliance many Italians wanted to keep, as they feared and distrusted the Germans under Hitler...that is anecdotal though.)

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somethinga9230k -1 points ago +1 / -2

Their policies were not that much different, if at all from the Soviets.

This is an extreme, blatant, fully intentional lie on your part, and you are well aware of that. You are not being sincere at all whatsoever. And you are using various tactics and tricks as well.

Again, since you ignore and distract from it fully intentionally on purpose:

So the Nazis, who literally fought terrorist and murderous Antifa in the streets, and also joined in a "Anti-Comintern Pact", with many people specifically deciding to support them due to their anti-communist stances and views, and whom waged total war against communists and the Soviet Union (whom had committed planned, intentional and organized genocides upon genocides upon genocides against millions of ethnic Europeans)... were communists themselves?

However, none of these groups was pro-capitalism or pro-individual liberty.

And again since you ignore and distract from it fully intentionally on purpose: Reg. how socialist they supposedly were, were the Nazis not fine with private property and businesses? How socialist is that? Did business leaders not support the Nazis in Germany? Did they not have capitalism (apart from war-time economy later on, like other countries such as the USA had war-time economy)?

"Nacht Hitler, kommen wir" -- "After Hitler comes us"; that was the German Reds' slogan.

So if I understand you correctly, because communists that Hitler and the Nazis fought total war against and whom they fought to the death against, claimed that communism would come after the Nazis... not something that the Nazis themselves claimed... the Nazis are totally communist?

And since you distract from my point reg. Poland (from https://thedonald.win/p/HXjwWF0t/x/c/17r9bERWMr ):

[...] remember that they allied with Stalin to invade Poland... [...]

And yet, as I mentioned and as you are well aware, they indeed invaded the genocidal Soviet Union and waged total war against them not long after. And what was the reason for invading Poland? If the Soviet Union invaded Poland by itself and took all of it, the Soviet Union would have had plenty of buffer land to wage war with, while Germany would have a direct border with the Soviet Union. Would Germany have had any chance to defend itself against the Soviet Union whatsoever if the Soviet Union had a direct border with Germany itself? And Germany had repeatedly throughout the 1930s (Hitler praised Pilsudski and held a memorial service for him in Berlin) attempted to create a defensive pact with Poland (and Poland did not have a strong military, while they did have tanks, they also had tankettes and literal horse cavalry when they were invaded in 1939. Though, to be fair, Germany also likely made claims that were most likely fully unacceptable to Poland, which did not help matters.

And again: The original claim was that "brown shirts" were the Antifa of the 1930s (see https://thedonald.win/p/HXjwWF0t/x/c/17r9ISd2oC ), which is blatantly wrong and insane to claim, given that the "brown shirts" were literally fighting Antifa terrorists and murderers in the streets, including in a time when the Soviet Union had already committed planned, organized and intentional genocide against millions of ethnic Europeans (including millions of poor workers and farmers).