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jamesfinmadison 27 points ago +28 / -1

They knocked loud, repeatedly, announcing who they were for 5 minutes. Tired of this no-knock myth. Read the police report.

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cook_does 5 points ago +5 / -0

It is possible the boyfriend who shot first didn't believe it was the police. He could have still thought it was the crazy Ex.

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jamesfinmadison 4 points ago +5 / -1

Possible but unlikely after you read that did it for 5 minutes, and a neighbor woke and looked out.

Even if so, not cops fault. Not sure I even believe this claim of the "good bf" tbph.

Shooting through a closed door is retarded.

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mugwump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Flashing red and blues outside would make me believe that. Anyone can kick in a door and yell police.

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Fozibare -8 points ago +5 / -13

I read the report. Crazy what people say on the jailhouse phone, even though it’s common knowledge that those lines are recorded.

As far as I’m concerned, any reasonable jury would not convict the cops, but they should have been more aware. Sending bullets back through a door, they didn’t have a clue what was really behind. Coulda been an unlicensed daycare.

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jamesfinmadison 14 points ago +16 / -2

More aware how? Using super powers like x-ray vision? Maybe they should imagine every drug house firefight as gang bangers with baby vests on?

I'm serious, let's get real. Are you suggesting they can see the bullets moving slower like the Matrix, that they should assume babies are around and back away from any raid where they are shot at because running is better then shooting the shooter?

How would they be more aware, and how would it have changed the outcome?

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befehlistbefehl 1 point ago +2 / -1

They actually do have wall penetrating radar nowadays.

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jamesfinmadison 0 points ago +2 / -2

Oh ffs. Are you being serious? Lol.

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Fozibare -3 points ago +7 / -10

The 4th rule of firearm safety is:

Know your target and what is behind it.

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jamesfinmadison 9 points ago +11 / -2

That's a suggestion for general safety of not hitting people behind your target in a controlled firefight. If you are approaching a closed room in a drug raid after a 5 minute self announcement, walking down the hallway, and they start firing at you from behind the door, you either (a) decide you can turn around and outraced bullets coming at you down the hallway, or (b) assume the shooter is willing to start a firefight behind the door, meaning they made a likely decision nothing in the room is worth avoiding starting said firefight.

Police safety matters. Police lives matter. Don't make up impossible standards and ignore reasonable situational assumptions just to apply anti cop vague assertions of wrong doing. I see this shit CONSTANTLY and it always looks like libtard thinking.